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  1. #8026
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    Quote Originally Posted by powdork View Post
    and get rid of the extended mirrors. you don't want to know how many people are stacked up behind you.
    Haaa just spit my water

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  2. #8027
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    So why shouldn't I buy a 25' early to mid 1990s camper trailer? Besides the obvious stuff like towing kinda sucks, milage (my truck already sucks gas, but is strong so towing shouldn't make it way worse), they all seem to leak etc?

    There actually are some in the 5-6k range vs 15-20k for a nice FWC etc.

  3. #8028
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    $4800 for an 8' sunlite popup with immaculate canvas?

    Edit: I realize historical prices mean nothing now. Just seems like a ton to spend on an old camper.


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  4. #8029
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    Ski RV's, who's sleeping in parking lots?

    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian View Post
    So why shouldn't I buy a 25' early to mid 1990s camper trailer? Besides the obvious stuff like towing kinda sucks, milage (my truck already sucks gas, but is strong so towing shouldn't make it way worse), they all seem to leak etc?

    There actually are some in the 5-6k range vs 15-20k for a nice FWC etc.
    The only reason not to get a hunter's special trailer (other than what you already stated) is that you are then restricted from towing anything else. I would like to get a nice 18 or 19' aluminum fishing boat as our fishing buddy is getting long in the tooth. But the trailer nixes that option. Small 24' motor home would be the answer to camping comfort with the family with towing a larger craft for ocean fishing.

    Otherwise a trailer camper is way more room, easier to work on, doesn't need a dually GVWR/RAWR to carry a comparable slide-in, not tied to the tow rig for jaunts away from camp, etc, etc. Makes for a extra bedroom in the driveway/back yard for the MIL as well

  5. #8030
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    Two reasons not to get a trailer in your situation. With as busy as the woods have been, if you're trying to find a dispersed site, you can't get as far off the beaten path and it might be tough to find a good spot to park it with all the other bumpasses. And your Tundra mpg's will be crushed. Like 7-10 mpg with 10 being best case. If you're cool with those, no reason not to.

  6. #8031
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    Honestly, looks like the best bang for my buck with the best resale value is to go full bro and just get an XL GFC. Earliest available build spot I am seeing is August if I buy a spot from someone on the GFC forums.

    I just can't justify almost $5k for a Sunlite from the 80s......even thought someone else will probably buy it.

    If I didn't ski/live somewhere that it snows a ton I would have bought a 2wd sprinter van 10 years ago. I love my truck, but the milage is um.....not good.

  7. #8032
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    We have a trailer and the best part is leaving it setup at camp and being to drive away for the day. Towing does limit where you can do and it is a big thing to store.

  8. #8033
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    how about this one? Looks ready to convert...diesel....AND 7.3 to boot....with only 132K...sure they are likely hard ass miles being an ambulance....but heck...bulletproof...
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  9. #8034
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    Quote Originally Posted by carlh View Post
    We have a trailer and the best part is leaving it setup at camp and being to drive away for the day. Towing does limit where you can do and it is a big thing to store.
    This is IMHO one of the biggest pros / cons to trailer vs truck camper.

    And since this is the ski RV thread, I'll mention again that towing in snow really sucks. And then there's the whole issue of heat and keeping water lines from freezing, including gray and black tanks.
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    if you have to resort to taking advice from the nitwits on this forum, then you're doomed.

  10. #8035
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian View Post
    Honestly, looks like the best bang for my buck with the best resale value is to go full bro and just get an XL GFC. Earliest available build spot I am seeing is August if I buy a spot from someone on the GFC forums.

    I just can't justify almost $5k for a Sunlite from the 80s......even thought someone else will probably buy it.

    If I didn't ski/live somewhere that it snows a ton I would have bought a 2wd sprinter van 10 years ago. I love my truck, but the milage is um.....not good.
    i'd say pull the trigger on the GFC. i want one so bad but i can't justify used truck prices right now.

    How do you feel about minivans with a removable camping setup? I don't think i recall you mentioning this in your list of options but it's a great way to go especially if it's a DD.

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    Made some slight mods to the bench/bed/storage. I got a little too cute with my drawer size to opening ratio and the 90* support bolt heads were rubbing the drawers. got a couple T and 90* brackets to bolt on the outside of the frame for more clearance. Also added a 2nd bolt to each of the slats on the extension portion of the bench so they wouldnt twist. found an air mattress for a truck bed that fits my bed perfectly as opposed to using 2 seperate sleeping pads. much more comfortable for the wife and didn't bring us as close to the ceiling as i'd feared.
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    Prep table that doubles as the rear bench leveler in use cooking out during a glorious sunset in Yellowstone. Real happy with this project and setup. No real fatal flaws in the design, just a couple annoyances, and best of all...no rattling or squeaking from anything i built going down the road. Just got back from a 3500 mile trip bouncing from the Badlands, Black Hills, Beartooth, Yellowstone, and Bighorn.

  11. #8036
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian View Post
    So why shouldn't I buy a 25' early to mid 1990s camper trailer? Besides the obvious stuff like towing kinda sucks, milage (my truck already sucks gas, but is strong so towing shouldn't make it way worse), they all seem to leak etc?

    There actually are some in the 5-6k range vs 15-20k for a nice FWC etc.
    Why does a single dude need a 25' travel trailer? What about a cheap pop-up? Not as bad on the mileage since it sits lower when towing. Short enough to maneuver, and just seem to handle rough roads and beatings a little better. A-frame's are more expensive, but better in the heat/cold and easier to setup. As long as the thing isn't growing mold or rotting out, some past leaking isn't a big deal. Current leaking needs to be addressed, but that's typically pretty straightforward. Beat on that thing for a few years, and if it falls apart, transfer all the equipment (fridge, heater, stove) to the bro-camper you've been saving up for.

    That, or get a used ProMaster and a set of snows. Toss a bed in it, and start using it. You'll figure out pretty quickly what you do and don't need, and how you want it configured.
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  12. #8037
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    The GFC makes sense because I already have a killer truck for it. It will also free up the bed again so I don't have to take the sleeping platform etc out every time I need to haul some plywood or sheetrock. I am still slightly concerned about sleeping in a GFC on winter nights at a ski area. Reality is I would probably do that 5-10 times a year max. Will have to explore the GFC thread some more. I imagine with how popular GFC are that I could easily unload and sell for what I paid if I got desperate for loot.

    If I was starting from scratch a converted van would make the most sense probably so so many reasons.

  13. #8038
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    I've done a decent amount of cold camping in the GFC, down to the high teens. Plenty comfy with a Mr. Buddy and a big tank. Biggest problem is the heavy condensation.
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  14. #8039
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    I love my slide in pop up (All Terrain Camper) for ability to day trip, although I lugging around a family and the camper stays on the truck full time. I also live in a city and have no place to park a trailer. The GFC should be fine for winter camping if you get a good winter sleeping bag, a Mr. Buddy heater, or figure a way to install a gas heater that exhausts the bad fumes outside (the best option for heat).

  15. #8040
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    The day trip or quick one nighter is another knock against the trailer. I'm never going to lug my 23' trailer somewhere to set up for the day, but I'd love to have a van or truck camper for big day trips when we are bringing the dogs. The wife typically doesn't mind taking a nap or hanging at the rig for a while if I do a longer ride or something after a shorter one with her.

  16. #8041
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian View Post
    The GFC makes sense because I already have a killer truck for it. It will also free up the bed again so I don't have to take the sleeping platform etc out every time I need to haul some plywood or sheetrock. I am still slightly concerned about sleeping in a GFC on winter nights at a ski area. Reality is I would probably do that 5-10 times a year max. Will have to explore the GFC thread some more. I imagine with how popular GFC are that I could easily unload and sell for what I paid if I got desperate for loot.

    If I was starting from scratch a converted van would make the most sense probably so so many reasons.
    https://forum.gofastcampers.com/t/he...the-camper/496


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  17. #8042
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    Hmmm. I am single....for now......maybe get a dog soon. No place to park a trailer anyway so I would be paying to store it about 20 mins from here.

    I do quite a bit of last minute jump in the truck and go trips since my schedule changes by the hour some days. Lots of reasons to go GFC.

  18. #8043
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    That's definitely the beauty of the GFC. The bed can be full of crap, and you can still grab a bag and just go. Little more involved in winter, but it's not that big a deal to have a bin or two of critical stuff in the bed or on standby.

    It's also nice to still have a truck bed that you can fill with crap.
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  19. #8044
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    One of the things I like most about the trailer is the spontaneous trip.

    I get it set up in the spring- bedding, camping gear etc. . If we decide to go we just throw some clothes in, bikes on, stop at the local safeway/liquor store and we are out of town in under an hour- two kids and a dog hopefully in tow.

    It takes all of 15 min to set up camp where ever we end up.

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    Anyone got AC beta for vans? Our transit we bought built out, no AC in the living space. We've got a pup so we want to keep it cool in there. It's got a maxxfan, vented windows on DS Rear, and door, and blackout/insulation on all windows. Thinking of just bucking up and buying the $1000 zero breeze for the cab, anyone else have any solid tips? We don't really want to do evaporative, however we're in Utah so its probably fine with how dry it is.
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  21. #8046
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian View Post
    Honestly, looks like the best bang for my buck with the best resale value is to go full bro and just get an XL GFC. Earliest available build spot I am seeing is August if I buy a spot from someone on the GFC forums.

    I just can't justify almost $5k for a Sunlite from the 80s......even thought someone else will probably buy it.

    If I didn't ski/live somewhere that it snows a ton I would have bought a 2wd sprinter van 10 years ago. I love my truck, but the milage is um.....not good.
    <RANT>

    Please don't buy a GFC. 2 of the owners are total douchebags. Long story is that a previous company they owned Aeocontinental was building a custom camper for their Unimog. They signed a contract that they did not live up to. There was a timeline that was not met and progress was not getting made so they walked away after handing over $50K or so. They never got any of this back, and did not get the camper.

    About a year later, Graham and Eric sued them saying that they have an unlimited legal budget to spend on bankrupting them. True to their intentions the legal fees to defend and counter-sue cost them about $330K so far. It went to trial and they are awaiting a verdict (judge trial) which can take months, but at the end of the trial they stated that no matter what the verdict is they will continue suing them just to cost them more $$$.

    This is bullshit and nobody should give those guys any business. </RANT>
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    *starts popping popcorn*

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    Quote Originally Posted by skysos View Post
    <RANT>

    Please don't buy a GFC. 2 of the owners are total douchebags. Long story is that a previous company they owned Aeocontinental was building a custom camper for their Unimog. They signed a contract that they did not live up to. There was a timeline that was not met and progress was not getting made so they walked away after handing over $50K or so. They never got any of this back, and did not get the camper.

    About a year later, Graham and Eric sued them saying that they have an unlimited legal budget to spend on bankrupting them. True to their intentions the legal fees to defend and counter-sue cost them about $330K so far. It went to trial and they are awaiting a verdict (judge trial) which can take months, but at the end of the trial they stated that no matter what the verdict is they will continue suing them just to cost them more $$$.

    This is bullshit and nobody should give those guys any business. </RANT>
    Link to the filed lawsuit? Let's see something to verify any of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowaddict91 View Post
    *starts popping popcorn*
    melting the butter right now. anyone enjoy a little seasoning on theirs besides salt?

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    Isn't Graham a mag and founder of GFC? I'm confused. So are two of the owners the bad guys? Are Graham and Eric the bad guys? Who are the owners? Who are the good guys? How many owners and how many bad guys are we dealing with here? I'm trying to gage my outrage and length of boycott for something I wasn't in the market for anyway. Summer is just around the corner.

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