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10-06-2014, 06:56 PM #1551Registered User
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10-06-2014, 07:06 PM #1552
I've probably averaged 15 nights per winter in my old camper, which only had canvas sides. The heater was a beast, and I stayed warm down to -20. You could feel cold radiating from the sides/windows, but overall the camper kept us surprisingly warm.
Considering that the Outfitter has heavy duty sides, and thickly insulated windows, I'm guessing that it'll stay very warm. I need to figure out power demands with it, and will probably still err on the side of caution and winterize it, since it has a whole lot of water/plumbing/etc.
Old camper, second from left, Wolf Creek last November.
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10-06-2014, 07:25 PM #1553Registered User
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Yeah, I've just been trying to figure out what is sufficient for winter. I guess you'll use more gas to heat it, but if it was a solid side, you'd spend more to drive it because of it's higher profile. So there are tradeoffs. Maybe throwing some closed cell foam pads around the top would help as well as some foam on the windows. Either way, I'm jealous, enjoy!
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10-06-2014, 08:26 PM #1554
I've definitely heard of folks using foam pads or reflectx, but I did fine without either. Probably would have run the heater a little less, but still, those heaters put out a ton of heat without using much propane.
I think you're on the front range...if you're seriously looking into Outfitters specifically, you're welcome to come by and look at this one if that helps with your decision making. Truthfully I'd started looking into hard sided campers again, but I've always lusted after the Outfitters. Made in Colorado, well built, and 4 season.
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10-06-2014, 10:19 PM #1555
Congrats, H. That's 3 under your belt now ;?)
Best of luck with it. They are a good project. Hope you passed gen 2 down well.Is it radix panax notoginseng? - splat
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10-07-2014, 06:00 AM #1556Climb the mountains and get their good tidings. Natures peace will flow into you as sunshine flows into trees. The winds will blow their own freshness into you, and the storms their energy, while cares will drop away from you like the leaves of Autumn. - John Muir
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10-07-2014, 07:24 AM #1557
Thanks C. I still miss Blue Velvet, and wonder where she ended up...hope it's with another ski bum.
Gen 2 was bought by a nice family in Salida. They know Baetis and some other friends, and I hope it works out well for them. There were a lot of gorilla tape fixes, but overall it was still in good shape. And the husband loved the volume and quality of stickers on the back.
As to the windows...there is a small slider on the other side, maybe a foot high by two feet long. I'll definitely consider cutting foam, but with insulated curtains and 2 ply windows, I think it may be overkill. I'm headed out next week for 10 days on the road, which will be a good shakeout trip. I doubt I'll be in freezing temps, but I think it'll give me a good idea of how things will work in colder temps.
C- I'd love to get your input on power for this thing. I'll shoot you an email.
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10-07-2014, 07:43 AM #1558Registered User
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I might have to take you up on that someday. I kinda thought that popup campers were out for serious winter camping but you've changed my mind. I'd love to have something with a lower profile like that. In the next year, I'll be buying a full sized truck, and the camper will come shortly after that. Not wasting my time putting one on my Taco.
We've taken out my father in law's camper a few times, but not in winter. It's a Lance, on a F350 long-bed. Thing is ridiculous, but far to big for my needs. Yours seems a little more reasonable.
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10-07-2014, 12:20 PM #1559Registered User
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I have a few 2' wide, 2" thick foam pads that I've only used when I know it is going to be super cold. Also a normal thermarest can work pretty good to put along the front where you sleep.
have never needed to run the heater once we're in sleeping bags.
popups work great for winter camping, just not as ideal as a cabover. but I'd rather have a lighter weight, lower profile camper on my tundra.
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10-07-2014, 01:54 PM #1560
fuck me i need to be sleeping in whistler lot #4
i need to bug out like you fucking ballers!~Zone Controller
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10-08-2014, 01:47 PM #1561
Check out this beast that for sale in my local area:
http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/rds/cto/4668088358.html::.:..::::.::.:.::..::.
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10-08-2014, 02:37 PM #1562
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10-08-2014, 04:51 PM #1563
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10-09-2014, 08:09 PM #1564
Window covers make a big difference. Some reflectix from hd does the trick w suction cups or rare earth magnets If you have metal trim exposed. Check out thesamba. Lots of winter camping tips there.
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10-10-2014, 05:52 AM #1565Registered User
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Bigfoot is a winter capable brand that used to offer a camper, I think.
Anyone have experience with flat mounted solar panels in winter? I am wondering if we will produce enough power from our 160w GoPower panel to keep our two 6v batteries charged.
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10-15-2014, 08:36 AM #1566
My winter ski rig is 1997 Chinook Concourse. Not 4x4, but limited slip rear diff, Goodyear Duratrac's, and chains (not yet used.) Solid fiberglass construction means zero leaks and holds up any snow load. Fits in a standard parking space.
We eliminate worrying about the water line/holding tank freezing issues as follows. I blowout the lines each year to exterior faucets, carry 2.5 gallon drinking water jugs, and have 1-gallon jugs of 50/50 rv antifreeze/water to "flush" solids for emergency night/morning flushes. Normally, we just spray the bowl with some cleaner after peeing. The blackwater tank takes a long time to fill this way and we make sure to use other facilities for the serious work... Always seem to find pool/hot tub facilities with showers and worth the couple of bucks they may charge.
Used reflectix on all the windows, but will install 3M Window Insulating Film this year. Made an insulated fabric divider which snaps into place to separate the cab from the RV. This really cut down the primary source of drafts and radiant heat loss. Plus, I didnt need to scrap the inside of the windshield to drive. (3) House batteries allow the furnace to run for a couple days before needing to recharge.
We successfully used these methods in major storms (2'+) and temps overnight to -2 degrees farenheight.
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10-15-2014, 04:22 PM #1567
4x4 7.3 diesel ambulance van converted to camper for $6500, in yuma az. could turn into a nice winter camper?
http://yuma.craigslist.org/cto/4715473767.html
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10-15-2014, 04:40 PM #1568
^^^Holy shit is that a good deal. A 7.3 power poke pick up with 81K would go for almost twice that. Rednecks jizz on that motor.
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10-15-2014, 04:56 PM #1569
Think they forgot a 2 in front of that price! Someone will score
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10-15-2014, 05:50 PM #1570Registered User
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10-15-2014, 06:14 PM #1571
If its a powerstroke its a turbo. But the engine before the powerstroke was also a 7.3 (idi) that could be had with or without a turbo. But 94.5 was the change from 7.3 idi to 7.3 powerstroke so that should be a powerstroke...and I want it!
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10-16-2014, 05:38 AM #1572Registered User
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Three years ago we spent three months tooling around the PNW in a 2001 Chinook Destiny. Used some of the same strategies as you did including an insulated blanket dividing the cabin from the living area. A word of caution about chains. If you have chains that only cover the outside wheels, try them on at home before you need to. The clearance between wheels is wicked tight and it was a pain in the ass to snake the cables (designed for low clearance) between the wheels. We folded over piece of metal flashing, laid the cables in the resulting pocket, and fished the assembly between the wheels. It worked but it wasn't easy or pleasant. Perhaps chains that cover both wheels would be easier if heavier and more expensive?
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10-16-2014, 09:13 AM #1573
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10-16-2014, 10:25 AM #1574
oh nice. the wife & dawgs would love that.
I need more disposable income. Maybe I should hit the poker rooms.
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10-22-2014, 11:01 AM #1575Registered User
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Saw this thread describing problems with the fridge below 20F as the refrigerant becomes viscous and screws up the works.
http://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fu...d/24160748.cfm
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