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  1. #8326
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    The air in an air mattress gets way too cold in winter and memory foam gets rock solid in below freezing temps.

    A 2000watt generator will run an electric heater or a hot plate if you are cooking hot meals or boiling water to fill a hot water bottle for inside the sleeping bag.

    Those Buddy heaters are supposed to be safe if you crack a window open. But I would be inclined to turn it off before going to sleep and turn it on again first thing in the morning. Not sure how well they work at elevation.

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    Have used a buddy heater up to about 9k. Run while getting ready for bed. Get in sleeping bag and turn off heater. Wake up and turn on heater about 5 minutes before getting out of bag. I've gone down to single digits. I have a little platform and use an old school thermarest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinned View Post
    Any of you guys winter camping in truck beds with toppers? As much as I'd love to trade in my F-150 for a 1 ton and a full camper, I really only have space for a single car right now.

    I don't think I'd camp in it for more than a couple of nights in a row - thinking occasionally at the mountain or some nights during a longer trip to Canada this winter. I've got a great sleeping bag, air mattress, etc. Probably need to make some insulation for the windows.

    What's the move for heat? The little buddy heaters seem a bit dangerous - are the little diesel heaters any better / safer?

    I've seen a few people recommending big Goal Zero type power stations and electric heaters, though it seems like the power draw from an electric heater might kill that battery pretty quick.
    It's pretty friggin brutal. I feel lucky not to have died of CO w the propane heater running or a candle even though I would shut them off to sleep. It's a constant battle w condensation as well. Keeping warm sleeping is the easiest part of it. Couple bags one inside the other, over a cot mattress or foam sleeping pads. The bedding obviously can't be in contact w the bed of the truck. Lighting is much easier w LEDs nowadays.

    Drying gear is a pia, feeding yourself, and recovering from the day's activity is hard. It's actually easier to survive in a tent, especially if it's a 4-6 person that you can stand in. If you had a good base lodge at a ski area to spend time, eat, use the bathroom, etc. it becomes more doable. Plan on fresh base layers for everyday.

    If you do go w a generator as DanoT suggested they can be easily modified to run on propane so you don't have to haul gas in your living space. Boot heaters would be extraordinary help with a generator.

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    My friend who sleeps in his truck loves his Exped inflatable pad. They have R values over 10. Combine that with a sub 0 sleeping bag.

    http://www.exped.com/usa/en/product-category/mats

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    This looks nice. For a man sized truck though.

    https://bozeman.craigslist.org/rvs/d...353986091.html

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    In line? What's the final build estimated? 2 years?

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    I think if I paid a deposit now I would have the camper next spring/summer. I mean that not too crazy for a patient person....which I am not.

  6. #8331
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    Thanks for the truck bed camping advice guys. I'll try it out this fall when it's cool, but not yet cold, and see how it feels and what sort of adjustments I might need to make.

    The generator idea is an interesting one, but I feel like it would drive any parking lot neighbors nuts if I was running a generator all night. The little diesel heaters seem like a better option and would keep boots toasty too. I might pick one of those up and see how it does - running the exhaust seems like it might be the only challenge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinned View Post
    Thanks for the truck bed camping advice guys. I'll try it out this fall when it's cool, but not yet cold, and see how it feels and what sort of adjustments I might need to make.

    The generator idea is an interesting one, but I feel like it would drive any parking lot neighbors nuts if I was running a generator all night. The little diesel heaters seem like a better option and would keep boots toasty too. I might pick one of those up and see how it does - running the exhaust seems like it might be the only challenge.
    A generator or heater noise are minimal compared to a fleet of snow cats and, if youíre lucky, a chained up loader.
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  8. #8333
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    diesel heaters are both much better and much safer. they vent outside so the co buildup isn't an issue and they make much dry heat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by altasnob View Post
    My friend who sleeps in his truck loves his Exped inflatable pad. They have R values over 10. Combine that with a sub 0 sleeping bag.

    http://www.exped.com/usa/en/product-category/mats

    Can confirm, Exped makes for comfortable sleeping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian View Post
    This looks nice. For a man sized truck though.





    I think if I paid a deposit now I would have the camper next spring/summer. I mean that not too crazy for a patient person....which I am not.
    That Northstar looks good. What kind of truck do you have?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopeless Sinner View Post
    That Northstar looks good. What kind of truck do you have?
    Tundra 6.5' bed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian View Post
    Tundra 6.5' bed

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    That Northstar is the same model I have. A Tundra doesn't have the payload to carry it.

    I looked at whether I could use a 8' bed Tundra for a camper hauler. Payload maxed out at right about the empty weight of that camper.
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    if you have to resort to taking advice from the nitwits on this forum, then you're doomed.

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    Workin' from home.

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    I wonder how much these people paid for this thing:

    https://reno.craigslist.org/cto/d/tr...353976047.html
    Quote Originally Posted by powder11 View Post
    if you have to resort to taking advice from the nitwits on this forum, then you're doomed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Chupacabra View Post
    I wonder how much these people paid for this thing:

    https://reno.craigslist.org/cto/d/tr...353976047.html
    IDK, couldn't have paid more than 150-160k right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian View Post
    IDK, couldn't have paid more than 150-160k right?
    I know Sprinter world is more or less full of insanely overpriced stuff, but even $150k seems over the top for what looks to be mainly bolt ons. A Winnebago Revel is around $160k for a much more thorough build out.

    Those people are definitely trying to cash in on the current market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Chupacabra View Post
    That Northstar is the same model I have. A Tundra doesn't have the payload to carry it.

    I looked at whether I could use a 8' bed Tundra for a camper hauler. Payload maxed out at right about the empty weight of that camper.

    Just had a heavy leaf spring pack and new shocks installed in my Tundra so I could get a FWC Hawk and tow a boat. It rides better now, even empty. Getting the camper shortly so we'll see what else I might have to do. The current tires have the payload although that would prob be my first upgrade if I encounter any handling issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian View Post
    IDK, couldn't have paid more than 150-160k right?
    That's the if you're really stupid price. The fact that it's a 2500 not a 3500 is a complete fail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinned View Post
    A Winnebago Revel is around $160k for a much more thorough build out.
    "Starting At: $185,838"
    https://www.winnebago.com/models/pro...mper-van/revel

    I assume you can add sales tax on top of that, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dantheman View Post
    "Starting At: $185,838"
    https://www.winnebago.com/models/pro...mper-van/revel

    I assume you can add sales tax on top of that, too.
    Those started at like 130k two years ago. Damn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopeless Sinner View Post
    That's the if you're really stupid price. The fact that it's a 2500 not a 3500 is a complete fail.
    those extra wheels make it worse for snow, offroading, and take up extra room. Plus who can afford 6 tires?
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    Quote Originally Posted by powdork View Post
    diesel heaters are both much better and much safer. they vent outside so the co buildup isn't an issue and they make much dry heat.
    Yup, and if folks donít want to permanently mount it in the truck, the heater-in-a-box builds are pretty great.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HTywDTi6NTo

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    Ridiculous question but Iím using an aluminum small 10-12 boat as a roof extension on my short bus project anyone have a fucked up aluminum boat? Or other cheap ideas in the Bay Area? Iím traversing the country through from sf to Boston. If anyone has a bright idea and wants to have some fun with a roof raise let me know. Been looking on Craigslist, they just get snapped up fast


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    I think I finally got a GFC build spot that is ready to go.

    At the end of the day the GFCs are proven and in super high demand. If I upgrade to a van next year I can unload the GFC in 5 minutes with little to no loss in re-sale.

    I know the build quality is going to be better and the weight pretty low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by powdork View Post
    those extra wheels make it worse for snow, offroading, and take up extra room. Plus who can afford 6 tires?
    Didn't realize the Sprinter 3500 and 4500's were duallys. That's a no go.

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