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  1. #1401
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lonnie View Post
    Honestly, I think their target market is Zombie Apocalypse Survivalist types...
    Hadn't thought of that but I think you're probably right. There's a magazine devoted to that stuff now; I browsed through it in Safeway one day and holy shit you wouldn't believe the cash people drop on that stuff.

    Maybe it'll pay off one day... Haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by oftpiste View Post
    ^^^ nice. pop top?
    Yeah mine has a pop top. Sleeps 2 couples or 2 dudes...
    Step into the Freezer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lonnie View Post
    Honestly, I think their target market is Zombie Apocalypse Survivalist types...
    Yea well that big pile of shit will get as far as the road is level and paved!! Complete joke of a rig. Sportsmobile has the best high end option. All about approach angle and the ability to really lock um and bug out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodneyyee View Post
    Yea well that big pile of shit will get as far as the road is level and paved!! Complete joke of a rig. Sportsmobile has the best high end option. All about approach angle and the ability to really lock um and bug out.
    I'll see your Sportsmobile and raise you a Unimog in the case of a ZA...



    Otherwise, as a ski rig, the Provan RV's kick ass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlpenChronicHabitual View Post
    I'll see your Sportsmobile and raise you a Unimog in the case of a ZA...



    Otherwise, as a ski rig, the Provan RV's kick ass.
    Saw a similar unimog last summer near Nordkapp, norway. Had austrian plates.
    So, basically they had driven the monster about 3700km +...and that means about 2000 in fuel costs...one way...

    Worst part that part was the we spotted them at the end of a short side road there, 2mins from the main road.
    There they were sitting, on the top of the roof, in sun chairs, watching artcic midnight sun, sipping some nice austrian white wine...in their totally spotless car.
    Like, not a goddam ounce of mud on it.

    Must have been demoralizing to drive that way and not find a single gravel road or bump on the road during the trip.
    I bet they spent at least 3 bottles of nice, chilled Riesling to wash away that disappointment..

    The floggings will continue until morale improves.

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    Seen several CH/OE/DE rigs like that where the owners take special care to wash it regularly. Like almost daily.

  7. #1407
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    Quote Originally Posted by Todds View Post
    How are the AWD Chevy express vans?
    I had one for awhile and thought it was a great truck. With the factory G80 locker in the rear axle it was impressively capable. That said, even after I put 32 inch tires on it, the clearance was just so so. It was excellent in the snow. Gas mileage was 15 around town and 17 on the highway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddog View Post
    Not done for this season, but my homemade motorhome should be ready to roll sometime this summer.Attachment 149203 Attachment 149204Attachment 149205
    This thing is awesome. How much does it cost to build something like this? Is it cost efficient compared to a used camper?

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    The truck cost me $500. I put $500 worth of tires on it and the next blew a head gasket! It's gonna cost me another $500 or so to get her back up and running. The camper itself is mostly used or reclaimed lumber. It's framed and sided entirely with redwood that I got for free off craigslist. The floor inside is reclaimed bamboo (about $15). I have a stove, sink and fireplace ready to go in this spring that I scrounged. The windows came out of a junked camper. So far the most expensive part was the metal roofing (about $150) because I just couldn't find any decent metal sheeting. I'm still scrounging foam insulation, and looking around for interior siding. I'll probably spend a few hundred on foam for the beds (queen upstairs, and double in back). All in all, I'll probably spend less than $3000 for everything. You could certainly find something workable for less, but I wanted something I could stand up straight in (I'm 6'4"), a bed I could stretch out in (camper is 7' wide), And has all the stuff I wish my other campers had had. I'm putting in a ski locker, heated boot locker, fireplace, propane heater, some storage cabinets and that's about it. Nothin fancy. I'll keep posting as it all comes together.
    Don't ask.... Don't tele

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    Stayed in my car last weekend and ate smoked salmon (I think this is thread it was mentioned in) anyway it was a great idea and thank you to whoever mentioned it.

    On another note where have you guys parked overnight close to crystal? Crystal's overnight lot is $25/night and the spot I had been staying is finally snowed in.

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    Just came across this nice example with only 50k miles...



    http://www.stcharlestoyota.net/auto/...0174-il/18343/

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    Quote Originally Posted by nfaust View Post
    Just came across this nice example with only 50k miles...



    http://www.stcharlestoyota.net/auto/...0174-il/18343/
    That dealership is less than 5 minutes from my house, If anyone's interested, I can check it out.

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    Awesome little rig, I wonder if it's possible to swap in 4x4 parts from donor truck?
    A note of caution on the 3.0L V6, you need to be hyper vigilant regarding the coolant system, they had a chronic head gasket failure rate.
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    For the record, the cooling system is fine....but the exhaust manifold design is flawed. It concentrates heat at cylinder number 6. Every 3.0 head gasket failure is at that location. Headers help move heat away from the block way more efficiently than the stock manifolds, and is about the only way around the problem.
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    That's a nice Sunrader, from what I can gather, a 4x4 conversion is not really doable. Every once in a while an original 4x4 pops up, usually for big $$$$.

    Not a Sunrader but this 4x4 in WY is pretty sweet, just not $20K sweet if you ask me:
    http://www.toyotamotorhome.org/class...orage_pod.html

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    Cool

    Or swap in one of these:
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    Pretty easy swap for the 3.0
    Big thing on the Toy RVs is to make sure is has the full floating rear axle.
    Pretty sure a 1990 will have it.
    Looks like a nice Rader.
    Great rigs, but will require some pretty serious mods if you want to use it for winter camping and have use of the plumbing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireStrom View Post
    Not a Sunrader but this 4x4 in WY is pretty sweet, just not $20K sweet if you ask me:
    http://www.toyotamotorhome.org/class...orage_pod.html

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    Seller is out of his mind if he thinks that is worth 20K.
    I've seen pristine original Sunrader factory 4x4s go for that much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shredhead View Post
    That dealership is less than 5 minutes from my house, If anyone's interested, I can check it out.
    Quote Originally Posted by FireStrom View Post
    That's a nice Sunrader, from what I can gather, a 4x4 conversion is not really doable. Every once in a while an original 4x4 pops up, usually for big $$$$.

    Not a Sunrader but this 4x4 in WY is pretty sweet, just not $20K sweet if you ask me:
    http://www.toyotamotorhome.org/class...orage_pod.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by natty dread View Post
    Or swap in one of these:
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    Pretty easy swap for the 3.0
    Big thing on the Toy RVs is to make sure is has the full floating rear axle.
    Pretty sure a 1990 will have it.
    Looks like a nice Rader.
    Great rigs, but will require some pretty serious mods if you want to use it for winter camping and have use of the plumbing.
    Quote Originally Posted by natty dread View Post
    Seller is out of his mind if he thinks that is worth 20K.
    I've seen pristine original Sunrader factory 4x4s go for that much.
    I call you on those Sunraiders and raise you this one...

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    1981 Toyota Sunraider Motorhome for Sale on KSL for $9359

    Motherfucker I didn't need to see that thing.... If I had the scratch that would be parked in my driveway. But I'm close to broke so have at it. Wish there was more info. I'm somewhat local to that and have to make a trip to ogden to pick up some pivot heels so Immah check it out and will report back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norseman View Post
    For the record, the cooling system is fine....but the exhaust manifold design is flawed. It concentrates heat at cylinder number 6. Every 3.0 head gasket failure is at that location. Headers help move heat away from the block way more efficiently than the stock manifolds, and is about the only way around the problem.
    Yeah, not saying the coolant system is flawed, I am saying that a lot of these failed because people didn't properly maintain it. The heads are aluminum, the block is cast iron, when the engine over heats, even a little, the heads heat up and expand faster than the block. The exhaust manifold was an issue, but headers were not a cure to the problem.
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    Agreed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    I call you on those Sunraiders and raise you this one...

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    1981 Toyota Sunraider Motorhome for Sale on KSL for $9359
    Looks cool, that is probably worth what he's asking depends on the quality of the 4by conversion and the condition of the drivetrain.
    20r engine is bomber and slow
    That's a rare coach style with the non wraparound windows, better than the curved ones. 18s are increasingly rare too.
    First thing you need to do is lower it 4" so you can take a sharp curve at more than 10 mph loaded up.

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    My girl and my "new" rig. Click image for larger version. 

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    IIRC, the Toyota 3.0L V6 had oil sludging issues too. It was a gutless motor in a 4Runner, must be incredibly underpowered when hauling an RV body around. At least the 22RE is reliable, though slow.

    The 3.4L V6 was a major improvement.
    Quote Originally Posted by powder11 View Post
    if you have to resort to taking advice from the nitwits on this forum, then you're doomed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Chupacabra View Post
    IIRC, the Toyota 3.0L V6 had oil sludging issues too. It was a gutless motor in a 4Runner, must be incredibly underpowered when hauling an RV body around. At least the 22RE is reliable, though slow.

    The 3.4L V6 was a major improvement.
    No doubt.
    That said, intake + headers and full flow exhaust opened my 89 up nice.
    It pulled well and went to 300k.

    Much happier with the 3.4L now though.
    Pity they don't offer 4runners with manuals any more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by natty dread View Post
    Looks cool, that is probably worth what he's asking depends on the quality of the 4by conversion and the condition of the drivetrain.
    20r engine is bomber and slow
    That's a rare coach style with the non wraparound windows, better than the curved ones. 18s are increasingly rare too.
    First thing you need to do is lower it 4" so you can take a sharp curve at more than 10 mph loaded up.
    Agreed on lowering. That rig will sink or tip over. Goof lift job on that. Plus that lil engine aint going anywhere loaded like that.

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