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  1. #8901
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    Quote Originally Posted by heckacali View Post
    Mammoth lakes CA, 8', no overhang, $4500, no affiliation...
    https://reno.craigslist.org/rvs/d/fa...377517777.html
    You'll want to check if it's insulated, especially the pipes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcat Sig View Post
    You'll want to check if it's insulated, especially the pipes.
    For most RVs, staying in a ski area parking lot and running a water system is a no go.
    For a popup camper, an insulated liner can be fabricated and attached with velcro.

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    How do they know if you are running a water system???
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    Quote Originally Posted by powdork View Post
    How do they know if you are running a water system???
    When you're standing outside naked taking a hot shower with no curtain setup in a blizzard, like a boss....

  5. #8905
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    I'd think you'd probably also like to avoid a sheet of ice around the vehicle as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by powdork View Post
    I'd think you'd probably also like to avoid a sheet of ice around the vehicle as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heckacali View Post
    Mammoth lakes CA, 8', no overhang, $4500, no affiliation...
    https://reno.craigslist.org/rvs/d/fa...377517777.html
    FWIW, that is a "Texson" (Tex and son) -- the precursor to Northstar.

    It looks a lot like our camper, a Northstar TC800, but ours doesn't have that little door in the picture -- the one at the rear on the passenger side. The larger door at the front is for a 20# propane tank. The ad says it has A/C -- most of the Northstar A/C units are small residential window units cut into the back wall, not roof-mounted RV units. Ours doesn't have A/C, or for that matter, any waste tanks or toilet. Also, that ad looks like the cabover bed will be an east/west layout for the mattress.
    Quote Originally Posted by powder11 View Post
    if you have to resort to taking advice from the nitwits on this forum, then you're doomed.

  8. #8908
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanoT View Post
    For most RVs, staying in a ski area parking lot and running a water system is a no go.
    For a popup camper, an insulated liner can be fabricated and attached with velcro.
    Yah, why?

    As long as you're self-contained and your camper is insulated, it should be a non-issue. It's not as if we're asking for a water hook-up.

    Quote Originally Posted by powdork View Post
    How do they know if you are running a water system???
    Also this.

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    "Yah, why?

    As long as you're self-contained and your camper is insulated, it should be a non-issue. It's not as if we're asking for a water hook-up."

    In theory. In practice that "non-issue" becomes an issue when your plumbing fails on a winter day. If you have a heated garage to store it in when not in use go for it. Or if you think you can drain and purge the system during the winter between trips great.

    The experienced winter RV folks will tell you that don't expect your plumbing to work in the winter without failure. We use giant water jugs that can freeze and thaw over and over.

    Yes I have to lug those jugs in and out of the house to refill. Takes 5 minutes

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    I fill up my tank with antifreeze (just enough for toilet flushing) and keep bottled water for drinking/dishes. Also worth noting that it doesn't get very cold in Washington teens and twenties are about as cold as it gets

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  11. #8911
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcat Sig View Post
    Yah, why?

    As long as you're self-contained and your camper is insulated, it should be a non-issue. It's not as if we're asking for a water hook-up.



    Also this.
    Heat from a propane furnace or any heat source does not get distributed evenly in an RV. Most "winter rated' RVs will be good to a few degrees below freezing, but real winter temps and your pipes will freeze. The exceptions are few.

    Just carry water in jugs and drain grey tank right away after using the sink.
    For showers I heat water on the stove and then use this: http://www.hotjugz.com/

  12. #8912
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanoT View Post
    Heat from a propane furnace or any heat source does not get distributed evenly in an RV. Most "winter rated' RVs will be good to a few degrees below freezing, but real winter temps and your pipes will freeze.
    Gotcha. I thought you were saying it was because they were on the resort property and it wasn't allowed, rather than the temps.
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  13. #8913
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    If any mags plan on camping at River Run in Sun Valley pm me and I'll get you access to locker rooms w showers and a place to plug in your boot heaters overnight as well as boot up in the am. I "think" there is 110v available at no charge in the parking lot as well. Hopefully covid doesn't eff the locker room(again), lots of rubes behind the potato curtain.

  14. #8914
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirVicSmasher View Post
    I fill up my tank with antifreeze (just enough for toilet flushing) and keep bottled water for drinking/dishes. Also worth noting that it doesn't get very cold in Washington teens and twenties are about as cold as it gets

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    I'm in the same boat in the PNWet; not terribly cold temps.

    Quote Originally Posted by DanoT View Post
    Heat from a propane furnace or any heat source does not get distributed evenly in an RV. Most "winter rated' RVs will be good to a few degrees below freezing, but real winter temps and your pipes will freeze. The exceptions are few.

    Just carry water in jugs and drain grey tank right away after using the sink.
    Well, fair enough. I've had my Lance down into the 20s without issue (knock on wood). But maybe I'm living on borrowed time?

    As for the gray tank; why not splash in some antifreeze? That's always done the trick for me.

  15. #8915
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    In real winter (Rogers Pass in Feb, for example) we just go on as normal. The tanks and drain valve freeze solid but more shit piles on top. After about a week we go to town and spend a day running the tiny generator with the tank heat pads on and a space heater under the rear end, which I sort of tent with reflectix. It all melts and we drain it before it can freeze again.

    Obviously a fully insulated and heated black/grey setup would be ideal but we muddle through. I've tried putting a gallon or so if antifreeze into the tanks and it doesn't work, as the concentration eventually gets too low to prevent freezing.
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  16. #8916
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    In addition to a mostly winter capable truck camper, I have a 5th wheel trailer as a ski chalet with a plug-in at a friend's place 18kms from Sun Peaks. My trailer was built by Bigfoot Campers and has an R20 floor and R12 walls and roof. The holding tanks are in a heated and insulated belly pan and the dump valves are mounted more than a foot away from an outside wall so they don't freeze.

    Inside the trailer some of the plumbing is against an outside wall so I zipped tied heat tape to the pipes and then wrapped that in tin foil to help distribute heat. At 0F/-18C, I turn on the heat tape and a heating pad positioned where the pipes run over the less than R20 wheel well. At around -25C the pipes freeze, I pull out a cabinet drawer and position a small ceramic heater aimed at the wheel well and 15-20 min. later there is running water.

    As I stated in a previous post, I don't bother to run a water system in winter in my truck camper.

  17. #8917
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    Quote Originally Posted by simple View Post
    "Yah, why?

    As long as you're self-contained and your camper is insulated, it should be a non-issue. It's not as if we're asking for a water hook-up."

    In theory. In practice that "non-issue" becomes an issue when your plumbing fails on a winter day. If you have a heated garage to store it in when not in use go for it. Or if you think you can drain and purge the system during the winter between trips great.

    The experienced winter RV folks will tell you that don't expect your plumbing to work in the winter without failure. We use giant water jugs that can freeze and thaw over and over.

    Yes I have to lug those jugs in and out of the house to refill. Takes 5 minutes
    Same here. In fact, I pulled the 20 gal tank to free up storage and use portable 5 gal jugs that I dip the water pump hose into. Use wag bags and a river toilet for "facilities". We're not night poopers but are prepared in case there's any code browns.

  18. #8918
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    Quote Originally Posted by riff View Post
    Ok, this has probably been asked/answered lots of times, but Iím getting a bit frustrated. I got a diesel truck with an 8í bed, and Iím looking for a camper. I want it to be roughly 8í long, no rear overhang so I can put the moto on the hitch rack or hook up the sled trailer without any hitch extensions. Iíd also like to keep the weight moderate or even light. I certainly donít want a bathroom or anything else heavy and complicated. Why is this so hard to find? Everything has big overhangs and is heavy.
    Iím also trying to spend less than 6k or so. Stuff has gone by here and there, but overall seems like a hole in the used market. Any brands/models i should be looking for? Iíd love a Bigfoot or Northern Lite as Iím only using it during winter, but those are all gigantic.


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  19. #8919
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    My rig won't be nearly as roomy or awesome as others here, but in a couple of weeks I'm selling my '03 Forester in lieu of buying a Z71 Suburban of similar vintage. It will be a welcomed upgrade.

    I plan on incorporating some of the attributes I see over at https://www.suboverland.com/ but need to retain the ability to haul boxes and furniture for my side hustle. A pop-up top similar to this would be nice eventually, but I don't know if I'll have it in my for the custom work.

  20. #8920
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    there's actually three pics in the this post but when i go there the three dots don't show up at the bottom
    https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi8Hw0hAeBk/

    Here's a not quite finished pic with the bed down
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  21. #8921
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    Sweet setup and pup. This is my kinda low-key rig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by powdork View Post
    there's actually three pics in the this post but when i go there the three dots don't show up at the bottom
    https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi8Hw0hAeBk/

    Here's a not quite finished pic with the bed down
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    Real nice! Great job


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  23. #8923
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    A friend of mine is selling this. I haven't been in or seen the rig though. $9495 for truck and camper if I read it right. Not sure if they are both 1993.
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    1993 Lance Camper f250 4x4
    I'm only Selling this awesome adventure vehicle because I am loosing my house in Tahoe because the owner is turning it into a Vacation Rental And I won't have a place to park it.
    The Camper also has electric jacks for easy removal. However this but is a package deal I don't plan to sell them separately since they go together so well. Also I have been renting it out through outdoorsy.co for additional income. It has the potential to generate $40,000 a year in rental income.

    This has been my go to Recreational Vehicle for the last 5 years. The Truck is a 4x4 so you can do adventures year around. I have also stayed in the camper on winter snow sport trips so you can use it year around. I installed solar on the roof..

    I also replaced the mattress with a Zinus 6 Inch Green Tea Memory Foam Mattress. It's awesome!!

    Has the Ford V8 460 7.5 Liter Engine w/ 198k with an automatic Transmission & locking 4x4 hubs

    Here's the link to the listing but I'm guessing it may be a private group
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  24. #8924
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    This thread has the tiny hamster in my head running... water tanks, insulation, and winter camping.

    A few mentioned that you yarded out your freshwater tank in lieu of multiple 5-gallon jugs. Based on what I understand of my Lance, the water tank is in the floor. This would seem to make the removal, and subsequent water jug storage difficult. For those of you that did such a thing; how did you do it? And what does your setup look like now?

  25. #8925
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    I don't remove my water tank in the winter. Is that what you are asking? I blow out the system and it stays dry all winter. I use 5 gallon water jugs until spring when the built in 20 gallon tank and faucet gets used again.

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