2011/12 gear rumor mill.... yup

**XavierD** · 02-04-2011, 03:29 PM

I have never had a problem with the Patagonia h2no stuff.

And I guess I will never get my 188 Ruby with tip rocker now. Should have pulled that trigger back in 07, oh well. The jag shark looks dope though.

**bradski530** · 02-05-2011, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by Hugh Conway

Is there any commitment or will this be like the past several times they've intro'd a model with Goretex, then switched a year or two later to something generic (like the Primo, etc)?

From my understanding, Patagonia's only doing Goretex in their top end stuff, and sticking with their in house fabrics for the lower end. No idea what their longterm plan is.

**Professor** · 02-05-2011, 10:31 AM

Just an FYI, the reason they are switching is since Gore has made an effort to be more "green". They stopped using Gore simply because of their environmental policies. So now that Gore has new "green" materials, Patagonia is back on board. Should see Gore pieces all the way down into the $300ish range. Then from there down they will use H2NO since they still have a bunch of it. Not sure if after a few years they will even bother making their own fabrics for any pieces. The pieces I have seen for next season look great. And before anyone asks, "no" I do not have any affiliation with Patagonia, but I have always been a fan due to my experiences with their product.

**robnow** · 02-05-2011, 11:00 AM

FYi Design, the same people that design the Burton AK line, are designing the new Patagonia stuff.

http://fyidesigndept.com/patagonia/p...tdoor-retailer

**Like a Boss** · 02-11-2011, 08:48 PM

Anyone seen the early rise on the new Mantra? Is it "marketing rocker" or legit early rise?

Hugh Conway · 02-11-2011, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by Professor

They stopped using Gore simply because of their environmental policies.

Which time?

**Caucasian Asian** · 02-11-2011, 09:57 PM

Game changer. Faction 190 Vive le Mono. 240/188/198.

**SupreChicken** · 02-12-2011, 12:33 PM

I'm guessing there's some fatypus, jah love pow junkie out there that's going to buy 2 vive le monos and ski with one on each foot...

anyone?

I'd love to hear THAT review

**Beyond** · 02-12-2011, 02:23 PM

^^^^Just what I was thinking. End the discussion of "how wide is too wide" once and for all.

**verbier61** · 02-12-2011, 02:56 PM

A few pics from ispo at www.coreshot.com

**Sessiøn** · 02-24-2011, 10:57 PM

Just gonna throw this out there.

**Eluder** · 02-25-2011, 12:30 AM

^^^^those look like this years skis...

Why do you need two dust pans hanging on the wall but keep your jig saw on the ground next your ether and PBR?

**Sessiøn** · 02-25-2011, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by rludes025

^^^^those look like this years skis...

Why do you need two dust pans hanging on the wall but keep your jig saw on the ground next your ether and PBR?

This years topsheets. For reference the ski on the right is a 191 Caylor. The one on the left is something different altogether.

**glademaster** · 02-25-2011, 09:13 AM

Wow that thing makes the Caylor look skinny! I hope there's a 180-something version of it offered too.

**wren** · 02-25-2011, 10:56 AM

**shroom** · 03-07-2011, 10:35 PM

got to ski the '12 JJ's on saturday. verrrrry stable, very quick. no negatives to highlight.

**Professor** · 03-08-2011, 08:52 AM

^^^ Did you ski the AK JJs (195s)? Or just the 11/12 185s? If they are the 185s, I dont believe they changed anything from this year other than graphics.

**Maker** · 03-10-2011, 06:28 AM

does anyone know if the 11-12 Kastle MX 108 is unchanged?

**Beyond** · 03-10-2011, 12:35 PM

^^^^ It's unchanged, except for minor graphics update and now called BMX108. Offered in three lengths now.

**hop** · 03-10-2011, 04:55 PM

Flexed some proto 196cm (?) Pillowfights today ever so briefly. Felt soft and even and seemed like they would work well in pow.

**fat yeti** · 03-11-2011, 09:12 PM

Sage was rocking a Atomic proto today in the Bird comp maybe its time to start the 12/13 rumors. The ski s a cross between a bentchetler and atlas so I have heard.

**spindrift** · 03-11-2011, 10:19 PM

Well, closing out this year... the remaining Praxis Concepts are all new two camber zone molding. More subtle than the protos in the thread. But it is there. Quietly slipped into production. Have 2 days on a pair - carvier & slarvier. They are $$...

**Bird Blaster** · 03-13-2011, 09:09 AM

Sad that Moment is letting the Ruby go. Such a fun ski. But I think the Jag Shark will do a formidable job its spot. Its dims sound awesome.

**MickeysEars** · 03-13-2011, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by Maker

does anyone know if the 11-12 Kastle MX 108 is unchanged?

187cm becomes 188cm. A good call I think. I wish they'd gone to 189cm as it goes ! Other than that and a few graphics / being called BMX they are the same.

**jeffamantea** · 03-13-2011, 05:36 PM

saw some sort of rossi proto briefly today. looked a bit fatter s7 with a longer rocker and lower profile tip.

i also have the sessions catalog if anyone wants some pics.

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