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11-19-2004, 11:28 AM #1Registered User
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Poll: Alpine Touring Plate...would you buy one?
Instead of Freerides, what if you could ski on the alpine bindings of your choice, fastened to a Touring Plate, that would unlock for hiking?
It will probably add some weight, but solve the problems of slop, release, retention, & durability of the current options.
Ideas?
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11-19-2004, 11:31 AM #2
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11-19-2004, 11:47 AM #3Originally Posted by the_eleven
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11-19-2004, 11:49 AM #4
If you are fit and “need” high DIN binders Trekkers are a good choice. 666 and another friend use them and keep up fine. However, both of them are fit , if you’re a fat ass office drone—like me—buy AT or tele gear, you’re not that gnarly.
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11-19-2004, 11:51 AM #5Registered User
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It's been done before.
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11-19-2004, 12:08 PM #6Registered User
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It has been done before, but it can be done better than that, IMHO.
I know of two groups with an Alpine Touring Plate in developement; just testing the waters HERE, to see what kind of interest there would be.
It would be more suitable for most people than the FR, as it would be more biased towards alpine and less towards touring.
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11-19-2004, 12:11 PM #7Registered User
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I'd buy it for sure...
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11-19-2004, 12:27 PM #8Originally Posted by Greydon Clark
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11-19-2004, 03:49 PM #9Originally Posted by slim
Last edited by Greydon Clark; 11-19-2004 at 03:54 PM.
The trumpet scatters its awful sound Over the graves of all lands Summoning all before the throne
Death and mankind shall be stunned When Nature arises To give account before the Judge
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11-19-2004, 03:55 PM #10
Saw a proposal last year at Dartmouth on one of these thangs....you him?
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11-19-2004, 04:28 PM #11have not
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Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak
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11-19-2004, 05:25 PM #12
it would have to be cheep
Its not that I suck at spelling, its that I just don't care
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11-19-2004, 05:54 PM #13
Is it gonna let the ski flex? Or be rigid?
I'm with ya on this... it CAN be done............. hmmmmmm....."Have fun, get a flyrod, and give the worm dunkers the finger when you start double hauling." ~Lumpy
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11-19-2004, 06:08 PM #14Registered User
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72twenty has a good point with the flex. if it could be done in a logical way so that it didnt feel like i was skiing with cement blocks under my boots (flex and weight) than id be all over this idea for sure.
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11-19-2004, 06:22 PM #15Banned
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If you do it, I would buy one of there was one thign built in that I think is sorely needed. Make the binding compatable with lugged sole AT boots. Many patrollers ski with them in alpine binders, which may be unsafe in certain cases. If you build this thing so that you run safely run At boots in it, the market will be much larger than if it is simply an current style AFD and alpine binder with the option to lift the heel. Just my $0.02.
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11-19-2004, 07:59 PM #16Registered User
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So it would have to:
-be light
-be cheap
-let the ski flex
-be compatible with lug soled boots
Any other ideas?
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11-19-2004, 09:27 PM #17Originally Posted by the_eleven
In all seriousness though it would have to be all the things listed above but bomber too. I'd gladly take a little extra weight to make sure the thing wasn't going to tear out of the ski or break somewhere where it'd be a long slog back. The other thing it should be is easily repairable in the field should any problems ariseFor sure, you have to be lost to find a place that can't be found, elseways everyone would know where it was
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11-19-2004, 11:02 PM #18Registered User
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Originally Posted by the_eleven
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11-20-2004, 11:58 AM #19Originally Posted by Walter SobchakOriginally Posted by blurred
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11-20-2004, 06:36 PM #20
yeah, I've been looking at going to AT bindings for several years now. But I can't afford to have two pairs of skis and bindings, but also can't afford to have an AT binder that explodes the third day of the season. If someone made a plate binding that was actually durable, and had the performance characteristics of a high quality alpine bindings, as long as it was lighter than bindings and trekkers (the current option) I'd be all over them. And, Assuming there wern't any other disadvantages to the thing than weight, I think that alot of other people would be too.
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11-25-2004, 03:41 PM #21
i just spent the last hour drawing stuff up with my old man about this. after my super neck wrecker due to fritschi pre-release, i need to get some sort of regular binding touring setup. and by the way
trekkers blow!god created man. winchester and baseball bats made them equal - evel kenievel
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11-25-2004, 07:11 PM #22Originally Posted by Summit
?????? Yes they do....all the salamons with height adjustable toe work with AT/modified alpine boots....just look at what most ski patrolers are skiing on! Yes there may be a slight difference in the release characteristics, but if you are that worried you won't be into anything dangerous like say backcountry skiing!!!!
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