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  1. #1626
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    I have the maple core proto wolf graphic. No idea how they back to back against others. I just know theyíre heavier.

    This is the fun kind of gear whoring. I suppose I should try Hojis for science and stuff. And Factions.

    Cíest la vie.
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  2. #1627
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    Quote Originally Posted by kc_7777 View Post
    Haha. Iím so bad for not giving skis a fair chance. But life is short and whatever. You can always re-buy a ski. Iíve re-bought Renegades 3x and Faction Candide 5.0s 2x.

    But itís so fun to try new stuffÖ.

    For my wide skis I currently have unmounted 2022 K2 Pon2oons and unmounted 2021 K2 Reckoners 122s. And have mounted Whitewalker 121 (CAST) and mounted Forma 118s (Pivots).

    Got some STH 16 (130mm) and Duke PT 16 (125mm) bindings on standby. Was thinking Duke PT on the Reckoners and STH on the Pon2oon.

    But may sell the Pon2oons as 132mm is so frickiní wide. But weíll see. Iíve heard they are fun.

    Renegades + Duke PTs would be a good combo too.

    First worldÖ..I know.

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    I've seen your threads. You're definitely a worse gear whore than I am, but I'm just getting started. I changed over from snowboarding a few years back to teach my kid to ski. Now I'm totally hooked. I did a couple of thirty day seasons then jumped to 70 and 100 last year. My skiing changed a ton last year and so did my preference in skis.

    My problem is that I'm on the quest for the perfect small quiver, but I ski everything from park to back country. I could probably make some compromises, but hey..... like you said, life is short.

    Hoji's here I come.

  3. #1628
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    Had a successful almost two months of not thinking about skiing every day, but now it smells like the summer is gone so I'm thinking about which way to go with culling the touring quiver from three to two:

    Got the Raven in the spring and toured exclusively on it. Planning to pair it with either Hoji or Renegade, as it feel dumb to switch between regular skis and the Raven.

    Case for Hoji feels like is redundancy: if one breaks, the other ski isn't too far off for substitute duties. The Raven seems to be built very sturdy, so this feels like not not a huge concern and redundancy doesn't feel like that interesting reason to choose a ski.

    Argument for Renegade is non-overlap, powder performance and big mountain performance I guess. Currently leaning towards the Renegade. Most likely it'll be only touring, with a low-tech binding. Anyone with a similar or a different approach to a small 4frnt quiver?

  4. #1629
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    Quote Originally Posted by OttoP View Post
    Anyone with a similar or a different approach to a small 4frnt quiver?
    I use the Raven 4-lock as my primary touring ski, and have an older Hoji as a dedicated powder ski. While I like this combo, I do think there is too much overlap between the two.

    As others have said, the Hojiís are more of an ďin the powderĒ ski, and the same can be said for the Ravens. While I havenít skied them, I imagine the Renegades will keep you much closer to the surface. If you like being on top, I think the Renegade could be justified anytime there is more than 4-5Ē of new snow. Any less than that, and you should just use your Ravens. Although, ideally you would have a pair of all three!


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  5. #1630
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    Quote Originally Posted by OttoP View Post
    Anyone with a similar or a different approach to a small 4frnt quiver?
    I used a Raven + Ren for all of my touring last season, except for one dumb day of sidestepping down steep talus.

    Out of the 50+ wintery days I skied the Ren for ~45, maybe more. Every day I was on the Raven I'd wished I brought the Ren, excepting one longish "working" day. Love the Raven as a spring ski, haven't figured it out as a winter option (190 might be too much for me) but you're already stoked on it - all the more reason to go Ren for slot 2. I have ~4 seasons on a Hoji (red/white) as my touring ski and I think its sweet spot is as a quiver of one. If you can have two go Raven + Ren.

  6. #1631
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    4FRNT Renegade ~ Hand built in SLC.

    I find Hojis shapes so good inbounds. The Pilsner Hojis weíre my favourite skis last year. Iíll likely end up with a Raven + Hoji + Renegade trio in the quiver for the coming season.

    Iíve got walkable binders on the Ravens (Duke PTís) and Pivots on the Hojis. Probably STH the Renegades.

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  7. #1632
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    Raven punches well above its weight and width in powder. But the Ren isnt much heavier - just more uphill friction. Personally I think the Raven can be an every day but steep/hard snow ski, especially if you err a bit longer.
    I didn't like the new Ren as much based on its wider, softer tip. The OG Ren is obviously a whole different animal. But lots of folk love the new Ren... so just one more opinion thrown into the gumbo.

  8. #1633
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    4FRNT Renegade ~ Hand built in SLC.

    Well dang I had a 10% off code, and Marshal confirmed the FR110 overlaps with my newer Hojis. Bought a 184cm Renegade to complete the 4FRNT Hoji collection. Will post pics of the three siblings once mounted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by North View Post
    I used a Raven + Ren for all of my touring last season, except for one dumb day of sidestepping down steep talus.

    Out of the 50+ wintery days I skied the Ren for ~45, maybe more. Every day I was on the Raven I'd wished I brought the Ren, excepting one longish "working" day. Love the Raven as a spring ski, haven't figured it out as a winter option (190 might be too much for me) but you're already stoked on it - all the more reason to go Ren for slot 2. I have ~4 seasons on a Hoji (red/white) as my touring ski and I think its sweet spot is as a quiver of one. If you can have two go Raven + Ren.

    ^^ This right here

    Did the same thing, been on all three Hoji skis as well. With the combo of the Ren/Raven you dont really need anything else
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  10. #1635
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    Quote Originally Posted by OttoP View Post
    Argument for Renegade is non-overlap, powder performance and big mountain performance I guess. Currently leaning towards the Renegade. Most likely it'll be only touring, with a low-tech binding. Anyone with a similar or a different approach to a small 4frnt quiver?
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    Always bring your renegades
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  11. #1636
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    Hey, thanks for all the input in here! Went with the Renegades. Funny coincidence is that the graphic looks a bit like my dog when she's running at full speed.

    They'll be delivered in november by the norwegian distributor so there's ample time to ponder the binding choice a bit and time for some early season snow developments here in Lyngen.

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    Iím looking for an all-mountain ski to compliment my 191 Renegades. I currently ski a 184 Black Crows Corvus, but ever since I got my Rens last year theyíve made me aware of just how much fun a ski can be, and the Corvuses just arenít clicking for me like they used to

    Iím hoping to find something that matches what I love about the Rens: nimble, intuitive, can still carry speed on a runout and are super supportive landing airs, but that is more versatile for my non-pow days.

    Iím looking at the 4Frnt Devastators, I think they check the more fun and nimble boxes, my only concern is whether theyíll feel too soft for those harder days at Whistler

    So Renegade owners, what should I ski when itís truly impractical to pull out the Rens?

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    Heritage lab FR110
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gustavar View Post
    Iím looking for an all-mountain ski to compliment my 191 Renegades. I currently ski a 184 Black Crows Corvus, but ever since I got my Rens last year theyíve made me aware of just how much fun a ski can be, and the Corvuses just arenít clicking for me like they used to

    Iím hoping to find something that matches what I love about the Rens: nimble, intuitive, can still carry speed on a runout and are super supportive landing airs, but that is more versatile for my non-pow days.

    Iím looking at the 4Frnt Devastators, I think they check the more fun and nimble boxes, my only concern is whether theyíll feel too soft for those harder days at Whistler

    So Renegade owners, what should I ski when itís truly impractical to pull out the Rens?
    Ravens. I skied them a fair bit last year on some days with 4-6Ē or less and theyíre a really fun inbounds ski.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Self Jupiter View Post
    Heritage lab FR110
    I laughed because I completely agree and yet donít know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gustavar View Post
    Iím looking for an all-mountain ski to compliment my 191 Renegades. I currently ski a 184 Black Crows Corvus, but ever since I got my Rens last year theyíve made me aware of just how much fun a ski can be, and the Corvuses just arenít clicking for me like they used to

    Iím hoping to find something that matches what I love about the Rens: nimble, intuitive, can still carry speed on a runout and are super supportive landing airs, but that is more versatile for my non-pow days.

    Iím looking at the 4Frnt Devastators, I think they check the more fun and nimble boxes, my only concern is whether theyíll feel too soft for those harder days at Whistler

    So Renegade owners, what should I ski when itís truly impractical to pull out the Rens?
    I have a 188 Corvus for exactly what you describe, and I really like them for that. I did not get along with the 193, and havenít ridden the 184. I also didnít like them at recommended, but back a couple cm.

    Feels like 191 ren to 184 Corvus might be a bigger adjustment? Otherwise I donít have any real ideas, but I did run through a number of skis in that slot before finding and being happy with the 188 Corvus. Rossi Sender Free 110 has piqued my interest, though. Salomon QST 106 too. Havenít had a chance to get on either, and if I replaced the 188 Corvus today itíd be with another 188 Corvus.

    And yeah, the heritage lab thing seems cool but a bit fevered at this point. Not unlike any other ski that has a hype machine thread on here (like Ren and Corvus). Still watching closely and would have pulled the trigger on a pair of FR110 if I didnít have so much else going on right now.
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  17. #1642
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    Heritage Labs FR110 looks killer but sold out in 186 which I think is what Iíd lean towards over the 192. Iím 5í11 and 155lb so not a huge guy for driving bigger skis

    Iíve loved my Corvus but I think the flat stiff tail is not a great match for my generally quick and nimble ski style. I get them around no problem but itís less intuitive and more strong and deliberate skiing (but theyíre a riot when Iím skiing more fall line)

    Iím intrigued by the ravens but Iíd worry theyíre a bit touring focussed for an inbounds whistler dd

    Might need to do some demo-ing here to narrow in on a vibe of ski. Dynastar M-Free 108 also seems interesting as something more playful than the Corvus, or the Wildcat 108

    Still leaning Devs though if anyone has opinions on them

  18. #1643
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    If you donít think the Raven will be enough ski for a daily driver at Whistler you might look at the Prior Husume. I own both, the extra camber and weight of the Husume is nice but theyíre still maneuverable and fun. Bonus is thatís where they were designed for. Personally I donít think the 190 Raven is lacking anything against the 188 Husume


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    4FRNT Renegade ~ Hand built in SLC.

    I ski 184 Ravens inbounds at Whistler. A lot. Theyíre really good.

    New 184 wolf Rens delivered yesterday. Rocking four pairs of rockered skis in the this yearís quiver.

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    4FRNT Renegade ~ Hand built in SLC.

    FYIÖ.

    If you order this yearís Renegades without the 4-lock skinsÖ.they ship you Rens with the Hoji hole.

    Talked to 4FRNT and they confirmed this is the case. All Rens have the hole in the tail this year.

    Same for the Ravens.

    Apparently this years Hojis come both ways (with hole and without).

    I bot my Rens without skins as I planned to use them as an inbounds pow skis.

    I did ask and 4FRNT said I could buy some 4-lock skis for my Rens.

    First world problem and just an FYI. But weirdÖand not clear on the website.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gustavar View Post
    Iím looking for an all-mountain ski to compliment my 191 Renegades. I currently ski a 184 Black Crows Corvus, but ever since I got my Rens last year theyíve made me aware of just how much fun a ski can be, and the Corvuses just arenít clicking for me like they used to

    Iím hoping to find something that matches what I love about the Rens: nimble, intuitive, can still carry speed on a runout and are super supportive landing airs, but that is more versatile for my non-pow days.

    Iím looking at the 4Frnt Devastators, I think they check the more fun and nimble boxes, my only concern is whether theyíll feel too soft for those harder days at Whistler

    So Renegade owners, what should I ski when itís truly impractical to pull out the Rens?
    IMHO devs are excellent compliments to ren until the snow becomes ice; then they suck. Drvs still do pretty well in pow but obviously not Ren well.

    Devs are incredibly nimble, intuitive, surfy, and still ski chop, especially lower density chop, very well. They are terrible in icy conditions.



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    Thanks for the thoughts yíall

    Quote Originally Posted by skinipenem View Post
    IMHO devs are excellent compliments to ren until the snow becomes ice; then they suck. Drvs still do pretty well in pow but obviously not Ren well.

    Devs are incredibly nimble, intuitive, surfy, and still ski chop, especially lower density chop, very well. They are terrible in icy conditions.



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    Thatís really good to know! Sounds like pretty much what Iím looking forÖ

    When you say ice conditions, do you mean real east coast boilerplate, or the kind of firmed up groomers Whistler/western skiers call ice that is still edgable?

    Iím an ex racer and like to carve, but Iím okay if I canít really rip on boilerplate as we very rarely get it out here, mostly groomer days are pretty edgable always

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    IMO boiler plate is a hard no on devs, firmed up groomers not fun.

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    Anyone find themselves in between 184s and 191s for touring on rens and have advice? Canít make up my mind. 191 would be a no brainer with alpine bindings but not sure Iíll want that on skin tracks. 5í11 180lbs for reference and I like to drive my tips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jski171 View Post
    Anyone find themselves in between 184s and 191s for touring on rens and have advice? Canít make up my mind. 191 would be a no brainer with alpine bindings but not sure Iíll want that on skin tracks. 5í11 180lbs for reference and I like to drive my tips.
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