How to Boycott BP

[concretejungle]

I haven't bought a drop of gasoline in over 3 years.

Neither have I. I make the wife get out and do it.

[Lone Star]

And just so I get this straight. I can go to anyone of your houses, dump shit on your driveway while making a video for 5 minutes and it would be cool as long as I cleaned it up afterwards? Can I have your address I have a video to make.

yeah, sure. no problem. can I take a video of you and put it on the internet? because that would be funny

[Skipig25]

I live in the city.

at least I now know why advres is so butthurt all the time.






...although I don't disagree with all his points



...some of the time

[Sparky]

^^^ at least half, eh? etc

Others will get rich apportioning blame - are you also advocating a boycott of Halliburton, Transocean and all subsiduaries? - we pay for BP et al to be there. They were not unique in their practices. As we search further for oil (oil shale, deep water etc), and populations grow, fuck ups and pollution will continue and fewer habitats and resources will be left to sustain us.

[Grape_Ape]

Love the simplicity of the redneck activism. But tragic as this situation is, and as easy as it is to blame the manufacturers - we who buy and use the products of the petrochemical industry share at least half of the blame.

Man you just pissed me off. What the fuck are you talking about? I, for one, would never fill me fucking car with gas IF I HAD A choice in the matter. Have you seen "Who killed the electric car?"? I will cut to the end and give you a big fucking hint as to the answer: big oil killed the electric car. We have little to no choices as to how we fill our cars up because big oil is dictating the rules to us peons. That is why guys like Advres who get around without gas are winners to me. I need a car to shuttle my kids around and to get to/from work. I can't afford a hybrid and even if I had one I would still be filling up at a gas station. Don't you see? We have no choice here and big oil is reaping the benefits but I guess that is capitalism, huh? All hail free markets, right? Well, it seems like big oil owns the market. Is that a free market? I don't know, I am just an peon civil engineer and not a financial doosh so I guess I am not qualified to answer that question.

Fuck big oil and fuck BP.


...half the blame...

[Lone Star]

Man you just pissed me off. What the fuck are you talking about? I, for one, would never fill me fucking car with gas IF I HAD A choice in the matter. Have you seen "Who killed the electric car?"?

hey, dude. I hate big oil and BP too but you killed all your credibility by referencing that farce of a film. You do a disservice to people who share this sentiment by citing such worthless left-wing ignore-reality garbage.

[Grape_Ape]

hey, dude. I hate big oil and BP too but you killed all your credibility by referencing that farce of a film. You do a disservice to people who share this sentiment by citing such worthless left-wing ignore-reality garbage.

Noted...please explain your views.

[Brock Landers]

Man you just pissed me off. What the fuck are you talking about? I, for one, would never fill me fucking car with gas IF I HAD A choice in the matter. Have you seen "Who killed the electric car?"? I will cut to the end and give you a big fucking hint as to the answer: big oil killed the electric car. We have little to no choices as to how we fill our cars up because big oil is dictating the rules to us peons. That is why guys like Advres who get around without gas are winners to me. I need a car to shuttle my kids around and to get to/from work. I can't afford a hybrid and even if I had one I would still be filling up at a gas station. Don't you see? We have no choice here and big oil is reaping the benefits but I guess that is capitalism, huh? All hail free markets, right? Well, it seems like big oil owns the market. Is that a free market? I don't know, I am just an peon civil engineer and not a financial doosh so I guess I am not qualified to answer that question.

Fuck big oil and fuck BP.


...half the blame...

If this and if that...Id be doing this and that... You dont think most people are in the same situation as poor you? People LOVE paying $3 a gallon to drive 20 miles. Love it, they throw money at big oil because they feel the need to donate to the cause. OR everyone is in the same exact position as you. Except many people arent riding around on this high horse. Most people need cars to shuttle kids back and forth. To get to work. Just like you. If youre so anti-big oil and pissed off about it...get an electric car. Get a hybrid. Make some sacrifices to afford it. If not...then youre in it just like everyone else, sucking at the tit of BP and ExxonMobil. Free markets dont make you drive a car, free markets have existed for a lot longer than cars have been out there. Whats your alternative? Socialism? A lot of good that would do, electric cars would just be flying off the shelves right?

[Grape_Ape]

If this and if that...Id be doing this and that... You dont think most people are in the same situation as poor you? People LOVE paying $3 a gallon to drive 20 miles. Love it, they throw money at big oil because they feel the need to donate to the cause. OR everyone is in the same exact position as you. Except many people arent riding around on this high horse. Most people need cars to shuttle kids back and forth. To get to work. Just like you. If youre so anti-big oil and pissed off about it...get an electric car. Get a hybrid. Make some sacrifices to afford it. If not...then youre in it just like everyone else, sucking at the tit of BP and ExxonMobil. Free markets dont make you drive a car, free markets have existed for a lot longer than cars have been out there. Whats your alternative? Socialism? A lot of good that would do, electric cars would just be flying off the shelves right?

Thanks for your input, but it seems like the horse you are riding on is a bit high too, now isn't it? What's your alternative? I already know your answer: keep things the same. Let me guess, you are part of the party of NO; The party that wants the status quo. And, btw, fuck off for saying that I should sacrifice more than I already do. Do you know my situation? No...you don't. So STFU tool.

And thanks for the kneejerk Socialism statement. Seriously, what do you consider we do about big oil? My gripes about free market capitalism as it exists today is that we have these megalithic corporations that are so powerful that they can dictate what they want. When business is normal, only they reap the profits, but when they fuck up, i.e. credit default swap fuck up, gulf oil spill - it's the little people who get hurt, i.e. american tax payers, mom-and-pop fisherman, respectively. I am not against profit being made, I am just against huge corporations bending everyday people over. What do we do to protect ourselves from such depredation? Government regulation. What else do we have? Now, I know from your kneejerk socialism statement that you probably swallow hook, line and sinker what Limbaugh and Faux News spout, that you think that government regulation is evil-incarnate. What do you propose? If the American government wasn't there, who would make BP clean up after themselves? No one and they wouldn't clean up because it's bad for their bottom line.

Even Alan fucking Greenspan, libertarian-laissez faire economics man, now admits that regulation is needed to make sure that firms don't get too big to fail. http://www.theatlantic.com/business/...gulator/38624/ I agree with him.

FUCK YOU, fuck big oil and, oh yeah, fuck you again.

[Brock Landers]

I dont know if Im the party of no, i just try not to be a hypocrit...wait, a hypocrit with a bunch of excuses as to why he/she is entitled to be at the mercy of these megalithic corporation because he needs his car so bad, but noone else is. You know why these companies are so big? Because you me and everyone else in the country needs gas to drive. Thats why. They provide a good and service to us. And we use it. Holy shit- the oil companies became big and...profitable...wow noone saw that coming. Billions of people need oil and gas and you think the mom and pop gas station can do it all on their own? Who is going to supply 300 million people with their daily energy needs, to drive their kids to school or get their ass to work? Some small oil company? And is that small company going to pipe the oil all the way yo Ohio or Maine or wherever? The problem I see isnt with big oil, its with the general dependence on oil of everyone. Especially me, I use a shitload of it. My carbon footprint is ridiculous, all I eat is red meat and i burn tires in my spare time. A second problem is making sure safe practices are going on pumping this stuff out. THats the problem in the gulf. Not making sure BP doesnt get too big. Who fucking cares if BP is huge. It isnt going to get saved by OUR govt- if the Brits feel like doing it, fine. Pointing the finger at big oil because theyre big and godhelpthem profitable isnt helping the next rig that needs to up its safety precautions.

And the free market thing capitalism thing is so lame. Banks take a lot off the top. THey make a lot of money, bankers themselves do too. But 25 years of low borrowing rates, a robust economy for decades, etc happened due to a ton of elbow grease. The baby boomers working their asses off. Helping in there is financial engineering. Noone bitched about lowering mortgage rates or 8% annual returns from the S&P for 30 years. Everyone loved that. Well the same stuff that brought you that brought you the cds and financial meltdown of 2008. People lost money they only had due to the same practices going on.

[iscariot]

[Moeghoul]

Good thing the Supremes are allowing unlimited corp cash for political leverage. Here are some real patriots.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_597510.html

[Grape_Ape]

You know why these companies are so big? Because you me and everyone else in the country needs gas to drive. Thats why. They provide a good and service to us. And we use it.

I don't want to give my money to big oil. You say drive less or sacrifice, I say fuck you. I live in the city and walk or ride my bike everywhere I can. My point is is that big oil is so big and powerful with so many lobbyists that they have been dictating things for decades, i.e. stifling energy innovation. I want to see a world where I have a choice to get from A to B but it is not happening because big oil is so powerful. This leads to my argument about huge corporations...I guess you didn't read what I wrote.

The second thing you wrote makes no sense in regards to what we are talking about.

[72Twenty]

Sweet fishing hat!

[Brock Landers]

I don't want to give my money to big oil. You say drive less or sacrifice, I say fuck you. I live in the city and walk or ride my bike everywhere I can. My point is is that big oil is so big and powerful with so many lobbyists that they have been dictating things for decades, i.e. stifling energy innovation. I want to see a world where I have a choice to get from A to B but it is not happening because big oil is so powerful. This leads to my argument about huge corporations...I guess you didn't read what I wrote.

The second thing you wrote makes no sense in regards to what we are talking about.

Then dont. You want to get from A to B without oil? Walk. Horse. Skateboard. Sucks right? Im all for clean energy, but its not here yet. You blame big oil. I read all over about how bigoil is trying to develop things in the area of clean energy so that they have 1) diverse sources of revenue 2) a sustainable biz model for when its a lot tougher to find oil. But you want to get from point A to point B, and youre not willing to pay for it. I want a helicopter to shoot me around the country too. This shit isnt free. Oil is the cheapest way to get from point A to point B. I dont mean to offend you by saying sacrifice...but youre still buying gas right? Just like everyone else. Of course big oil has lobbyists. Tell me an industry that doesnt.

I read exactly what you wrote. Big corporations suck...too big to fail. There are certain industries (actually just one) where "too big" means it fucks things up in other industries. If Lehman Bros fails...it totally screws with other companies, basically all other companies, to the point that it makes life a lot tougher for everyone. Banks wont lend because they are afraid they wont get money back. Businesses cant borrow this unlent money to pay their bills...then layoffs. Sucks. But big oil? If BP failed tomorrow, it doesnt matter. Youd go to exxon, who would be charging the same shit. THeyd probably buy up all BP's stores. Thats the whole premise of too big to fail- it screws with other things. "Big oil" is just an excuse to feign anger at paying $3 a gallon. You say you live in a city, and bike everywhere. Good. You want a better way to get from A to B outside the city? Pay up. Businesses, technology, expansion, etc is driven by dollars. Nobody is doing it for free. Id like clean, electric cars. Trains going everywhere so I never need a car and never get towed due to street sweeping again. But it isnt free. Especially a mainstream source of alterntive energy. Its hugely expensive.