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  1. #1
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    What is the stiffest, burliest, baddest ski ever?

    What's your opinion?

    I have never skied anything that really feels like a tank. What would you recommend me if I want to add some to my quiver.

    Actually, I'd like to have something really killer.

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    The stiffest ski I have ever tried is the Squad.

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    I tried some of the orange Head m.103s once. Too much ski for me. All business no fun.

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    I bought a pair of Bro Blems from Splat, 188 stiffs. I could do nothing with them. I sold them here then observed that same pair sell 3 more times. I think they were really XXX-stiff FrankenBros or something.

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    I could tell ya, but then I know they would kill ya
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    How do the 187 XXL's stack up agains the aforementioned sticks?
    What about the 194s?

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    xxl's are a lot friendlier than people think.

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    I've seen some Blizzard Kreitlers (probably not stock) that are tanks. But the Squads are pretty nasty.

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    Faction Thirteen.
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    The stiffest, most difficult ones I've ever skied were 200cm Igneous FFFs, 265 flex. I couldn't turn them.

    In comparison, Squads and Head m103s are much more usable. And they're stiffer than anything I want to ski regularly.
    Quote Originally Posted by powder11 View Post
    if you have to resort to taking advice from the nitwits on this forum, then you're doomed.

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    189 Squads...
    Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Powder

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    rugbydave how do the 189 compare to the 194s and the ones you are currently skiing on?

    El Chupacabra
    what are the dimensions on the FFF's? Are thet still produced?

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    Pocket Rockets......

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    Quote Originally Posted by dingjong View Post
    El Chupacabra
    what are the dimensions on the FFF's? Are thet still produced?
    Some in gear swap now:
    [ame="https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=192428"]Sack up and get some real skis. 200cm Iggy FFFs FS - Teton Gravity Research Forums[/ame]

    118ish in the waist, traditional tip, camber, sidecut. A big big plank.

    There is no "kick" to the tail on them -- the tail bar lays flat on the snow -- so the running length on them is quite long.
    Quote Originally Posted by powder11 View Post
    if you have to resort to taking advice from the nitwits on this forum, then you're doomed.

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    For maximum "freight train" effect with minimal $$$...I would pick:

    217 Atomic DH "race stock" with plates....only $149 plus shipping. Brand New. (only 9 years old)

    http://cgi.ebay.com/02-Atomic-Race-D...item45f2b97bf7

    Or Tyrone's 240 Speed Skis:

    https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...=152765&page=2

    http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/...d-skiing-skis:






    Speedy's has:

    07/08 Race Stock DH 215s with bindings for $499..Free Shipping
    http://skatewerks.com/07atrsdhskiw.html

    08 Head DH "Race Stock" 216s with plate and ff17 binders for $499. Free Shipping
    http://skatewerks.com/herdgswocupr.html

    08/08 Atomic DH "Race Stock" 215s (45m radius) w/plate (no binding) for $429. Free Shipping
    http://skatewerks.com/new06atgsras.html
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    Lightning boards.
    No longer stuck.

    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    Just an uneducated guess.

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    the last 2 posts FTW!!!
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    First thing that came to my mind was 194 Squads.

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    Stiffest ski out there is the K2 luv bug. As for baddest that depends who you ask.

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    Stiffest I've personally skied on--my ca1960 215cm Kneissl Reisenslaloms (I weighed 135 at the time-pounds not kilograms)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5B View Post
    I bought a pair of Bro Blems from Splat, 188 stiffs. I could do nothing with them. I sold them here then observed that same pair sell 3 more times. I think they were really XXX-stiff FrankenBros or something.
    yeah, they were pretty stiff but they railed like freight trains! I do wonder how they stacked up compared to other 'stiffs' as they were the only pair of bro's I had the pleasure of skiing. How stiff should the 'stiffs' be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Chupacabra View Post
    The stiffest, most difficult ones I've ever skied were 200cm Igneous FFFs, 265 flex. I couldn't turn them
    ding ding ding we have a winner! about 10 yrs ago i ordered a pair of these (195), and after one day on them named them the "leg breakers". never really skied them much, as they were, well, umm, too much.

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    Iggy MFFL Joe Flame in a 300 flex.

    Those monsters surpassed the VR17s ot even the 201 cm Stockli Asteroids.
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    >>>200 cm Black Bamboo Sidewalled DPS Lotus 120 : Best Skis Ever <<<

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    My vote's the speed skis. Can't believe that dude's riding those off piste
    Thought it was only my old brahs at Tod Mtn did that shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimLad View Post
    I tried some of the orange Head m.103s once. Too much ski for me. All business no fun.
    The stiffest, heaviest skis I've ever owned (still have 'em) are a pair of orange screamin' eagle m103's. However, I don't think they're all that demanding. They like to go fast for sure, but gapers can go fast too.

    Actually, most race skis from the 80's and 90's were stiffer.

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