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07-28-2017, 07:46 AM #126It makes perfect sense...until you think about it.
I suspect there's logic behind the madness, but I'm too dumb to see it.
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07-28-2017, 11:07 AM #127Registered User
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I'm a Volkl Katana fanboy... They're stiff, fast, but somehow still versatile and nimble when they need to be (provided you know how to tell a stiff ski what to do).
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07-28-2017, 02:35 PM #128
Sit down and shut up JONG. Do you weigh 120 lbs soaking wet? This is for stiff, burly skis. Katana's are medium daily drivers for this crowd.
That said, I could never get a pair of 193 No Ka Oi's to flex (the AK vintage), and I'm 240 and skied them much harder back in my 20's. Mother fucking hawaiian rocket sleds, those things. They did what they wanted and you were along for the ride.I've concluded that DJSapp was never DJSapp, and Not DJSapp is also not DJSapp, so that means he's telling the truth now and he was lying before.
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07-28-2017, 04:19 PM #129
What is the stiffest, burliest, baddest ski ever?
My Parlor Cardinal 100 stiff layup maple/..aspen? full camber (rocker is for wimps) is as stiff as the monsters in the tail and underfoot but a little more forgiving in the tip/shovel, reminds me of the flex pattern of hologram top Stockli SS pro of the late 2000s. Probably for the best that it softens a little. Basically thought of those in my quiver as a replacement for the DP pro +
The monsters are maybe the chargiest looking ski I've ever seen because apparently they aren't very hard to turn. The parlors don't turn off piste until you hit 35-40+.Last edited by Self Jupiter; 07-29-2017 at 05:58 PM.
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07-28-2017, 07:19 PM #130Banned
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The Monster 108s (110mm underfoot on the 191) are surprisingly easy to ski. They do want more input than katanas, however not much more. The camber makes them quite lively at speed, and they do what you want in tight stuff, when its firm. They have the opposite camber profile to the Katanas, but they perform quite similarly in bumps. The turn radius feels shorter on the monsters, and the edges hook up much easier/better. The monster can charge harder than the katana, its not nearly as washy. The HEADs are also more carvey, less slarvey, but they are good at quick speed checks as needed.
They are great skis.
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07-28-2017, 09:01 PM #131Registered User
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I'm 6'5" 195 lb ex ski racer, so not a light weight but not a Clydesdale either.
Are you thinking of the V works katana? Because I've had the 2008-2010 metal versions and they were all comparable in stiffness to GS race skis. I've never wished they were stiffer, and I've watched others on the hill not be able to bend them. I know there are stiffer planks available though, sorry for polluting your stiffy fest with my favorite titanium noodles.
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07-29-2017, 07:29 AM #132
What is the stiffest, burliest, baddest ski ever?
Damn... total beanpole. How the hell are you that tall but weigh so little?
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07-29-2017, 07:47 AM #133Registered User
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I spent the second half of last season on get 194cm Kastle MX 98. Two full sheets of metal, look and ski like a fat GS ski. I don't think they qualify as the burliest, stiffest ever, but they are up there. Don't let the skis take control or you'll go for a ride really fast. There are days I miss my 187 Bonafides for how easy they were to ski, but the feeling of controlling the Kastles, and crushing everything in sight, is amazing. I struggled controlling them in 6in of medium to heavy new snow, but I think that's more my lack of technique, and instead of forcing myself to learn how to ski the Kastles in that stuff, I grab my 203 Shiros instead.
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07-29-2017, 09:05 AM #134Banned
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07-29-2017, 06:12 PM #135
I had a pair of VO Slaloms back in the day. Pretty fucking stiff.
Also pretty damn stiff are the 190 OG Exploders I still have.Quando paramucho mi amore de felice carathon.
Mundo paparazzi mi amore cicce verdi parasol.
Questo abrigado tantamucho que canite carousel.
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07-30-2017, 09:38 AM #136
since we're not talking about the stiffest, burliest ski ever anymore, and just throwing stiff ski observations around: The old brown Armada Ants were a ski that needed some driving. Also, back in the late 90s I had a pair of 200cm Hart Outbacks that were a real handful. If I'm not mistaken both of those skis were metal on wood from the Atomic factory in Altenmarkt.
The whole bar on what makes a stiff ski has shifted so far though. The race era after boots got very rigid and before technique became more two-footed and driven by sidecut had some seriously stiff fucking skis. And good skiers skied those all over the hill...moguls, trees, all of it. Hell, RD made a ski for Alaska, the "Valdez Extreme" and you could get it in a 220 . I saw a pair of K2 Extremes once that were clearly a raceroom thing, with the Extreme graphic/topsheet on top of a DH board.
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07-30-2017, 09:49 AM #137
Blizzard Titan Zeus sounds pretty stiff. Can be had for cheap here (assuming it's still available and the seller isn't a flake):
https://www.geartrade.com/item/50723...itan-zeus-185#
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07-30-2017, 10:25 AM #138
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07-30-2017, 10:32 AM #139
Which is aluminum
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07-30-2017, 10:46 AM #140Registered User
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07-30-2017, 11:03 AM #141
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07-30-2017, 11:55 AM #142
I'd throw 1st gen Whitedot Ragnaroks into the round. One of the last big mountain chargers which were stiff like fuck and impossible to bend for mere mortals.
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07-31-2017, 05:48 AM #143Banned
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What is the stiffest, burliest, baddest ski ever?
The 191 Monsters are pretty hard to find. No real deals to be had, only retail.. and still hard to find
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07-31-2017, 07:27 AM #144
Found some 184's: https://www.dawgcatching.com/product...ant=7082478913
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08-01-2017, 09:43 PM #145
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08-01-2017, 09:49 PM #146
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08-01-2017, 11:02 PM #147
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08-01-2017, 11:29 PM #148
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08-02-2017, 01:06 AM #149
This is a pretty useless comment but I bought those moment skis last season, very little tip rocker, almost no tail rocker. These fuckers are stiff. I forgot what they're called, but the tallacs are the thin version.
I feel like they plow through anything. But let your guard off and you'll eat shit. Love em, sorta...Actually not really
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08-02-2017, 05:20 AM #150Banned
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What is the stiffest, burliest, baddest ski ever?
^^^ Governors? I had the 196 a few years back, I thought they were significantly easier to ski than the Monster 108. Good skis though, still rage-able, but more playful and slarvy. The govs will carve much cleaner than (191)Billy Goats, but the speed limits are similar.
I went right to the 191, I wasnt aiming for a daily driver.. I was surprised by how easy they were to ski, in the right conditions. Absolute missile when you want though
I'm 6'2", 210lbs on the 191. I have no doubt that I would get along with the 184, and actually, I want that size too..Dont be afraid to size down with this ski, it's the real deal.
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