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Thread: Bill Briggs' skis
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04-06-2010, 02:48 PM #1
Bill Briggs' skis
Was in the GTNP visitor center in Moose today, had to pay my respect to the climbing corner, and thought some might enjoy seeing even a shitty picture of these boards.
Sorry about the crappy iPhone pics, i'll try to get the better camera there soon, or if anybody else does before me feel free to add!
edit: yep, Spademans on the Grand. Didn't their used to be different colors of springs for those, or am i confusing them with another plate binding?
Also note the 3/8"x5/8" bar stock epoxied onto the topsheets to apparently add stiffness. You takin notes Splat?Last edited by Tye 1on; 04-06-2010 at 04:04 PM.
Something about the wrinkle in your forehead tells me there's a fit about to get thrown
And I never hear a single word you say when you tell me not to have my fun
It's the same old shit that I ain't gonna take off anyone.
and I never had a shortage of people tryin' to warn me about the dangers I pose to myself.
Patterson Hood of the DBT's
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04-06-2010, 03:27 PM #2Registered User
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I can't even see the "crappy iPhone pics"...
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04-06-2010, 03:31 PM #3
ruh roh, back in a sec
edit: fixed, i hope.
[fkn jong ]Something about the wrinkle in your forehead tells me there's a fit about to get thrown
And I never hear a single word you say when you tell me not to have my fun
It's the same old shit that I ain't gonna take off anyone.
and I never had a shortage of people tryin' to warn me about the dangers I pose to myself.
Patterson Hood of the DBT's
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04-06-2010, 03:33 PM #4
Sweet! Thanks.
Last edited by Tunco; 04-06-2010 at 03:58 PM.
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04-06-2010, 03:37 PM #5
My dad had/has the same poles.
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04-06-2010, 03:41 PM #6
Did he ski the Grand on those? Spademan binders holy shit, no toepiece just an AFD. Wow.
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04-06-2010, 03:43 PM #7
cool skis, that picture of the tracks he left on the Grand Teton is badass
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04-06-2010, 03:46 PM #8Registered User
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congrats on being the oldest person on the TGR forums
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04-06-2010, 03:48 PM #9
I had them, too. (Probably weren't too many choices, then!)
Just noticed the Spademan's too. Never used them, but we used to mount them. A real pain in the ass, because you had to bondo the cutout in the boot sole, so the plate would sit square. Seemed like a good idea though, but we always thought they were ghey.... not anymore.
Thx for posting Tye.Last edited by BigDaddy; 04-06-2010 at 04:00 PM.
Screw the net, Surf the backcountry!
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04-06-2010, 03:55 PM #10
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04-06-2010, 04:02 PM #11
are those a&t poles? i scored a pair of those in titanium. they have the same red white blue stickers on them
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04-06-2010, 04:03 PM #12
I guess they worked.
Pretty sure they're Scott poles.
What are the skis, though? They look like Yamaha or Hart, perhaps?
I think they had a silver and a gold. There were a couple other plate binders... Besser and Cubco. Both of those had toe pieces.Screw the net, Surf the backcountry!
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04-06-2010, 04:05 PM #13
Isn't that a Scott logo on those poles?
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04-06-2010, 04:15 PM #14
Thinking Hart. Great wildsnow bio here. I'll check next time i'm over there.
Silver and gold rings a bell, and those look silver?
[i had some americana's, the crappy plate binding as opposed to those good ones you mention...;, and they had a toe piece that the plate fit in to also)]Something about the wrinkle in your forehead tells me there's a fit about to get thrown
And I never hear a single word you say when you tell me not to have my fun
It's the same old shit that I ain't gonna take off anyone.
and I never had a shortage of people tryin' to warn me about the dangers I pose to myself.
Patterson Hood of the DBT's
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04-06-2010, 04:22 PM #15
Americana's... I remember them. I think I put those on my mother's skis.
Just found this pic of Briggs hiking with his skis. Those must be 220 cm's!!!:
Screw the net, Surf the backcountry!
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04-06-2010, 04:26 PM #16
His segment in Steep is awesome. Such a mellow dude, so humble.
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04-06-2010, 06:14 PM #17Registered User
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When I saw those skis in the visitors center I said to myself, "I would even ski down 'Homerun' at Loveland on them." You can't help but feel humbled to see what Brigger skied the Grand on...
"True love is much easier to find with a helicopter"
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04-06-2010, 06:36 PM #18
Wow ..Big Daddy...you are old like me!!! I remember Bondo on the boots too...good times. I'll bet you remember cutting notches in boots for the Marker Simplex toe piece too!!
Skiing in the Spademan is one thing, but getting into them on top of the Grand is another!!
If the plate on the boot had good purchase, they actually held pretty good, and they also allowed for ski flex since there was no toe. It was the rental binding of choice for a number of ski areas in the 70's, since all boots would fit all skis.
Back to Bill.....pretty fkn awesome accomplishment...I'm pissed that I missed his induction ceremony into The National Ski Hall Of Fame. Only 15 miles from me, but I was out of town.The coefficent of desireability is inversly proportionate to the degree of availability.
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04-06-2010, 07:03 PM #19
Yes, I remember the Marker Simplex toes... fun stuff. I think the Tyrolia's also had to have a notch, but you're right, I'm old and that was a long time ago! The old Marker Rotomats were the rage, but what a pain when you blew out of the heels! Funny thing is, in that era, I think the hot setup was Spademans on Hexcels with Hanson boots... and if you were really cool, jetstix!
Screw the net, Surf the backcountry!
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04-06-2010, 07:13 PM #20
^^ I was thinking Hexcel split tails with the blue and orange Scott boots.
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04-06-2010, 07:31 PM #21
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04-06-2010, 07:39 PM #22
Holy shit, Knee Boots. What were they thinking?
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04-06-2010, 09:48 PM #23
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04-30-2017, 10:06 PM #24
Was in the Coach tonight having a couple of beers and Bill started carrying in his mic stands and PA's for his 2500++'th gig on Sundays, and got off my ass to help him load in the gear. Half hour later he was taking a break and i got to say hi and chat, about his skis.
He glued aluminum bar stock, around 3/8" square, with what was considered a high-tech glue to the top sheet of the K2 skis. Tonight he described it as a 'viscous adhesive'. That he had skied with and taught an engineer from 3M who was coincidentally working with an adhesive for skyscraper construction, which would moderate the lateral forces when skyscrapers sway. Bill thought that using it to glue the rails down dampened the skis, like stiffening them , but while keeping them able to turn well. He said they were his go to skis.
Bill said this was the plate and viscous adhesive concept that turned in to the Rossi VAS system, and others. He wasn't interested in claiming any 'credit', just pointing out design similarities.
I asked him about the Spademan bindings, whether he had bought the stronger springs, gold vs silver if i remember correctly. He said he hadn't bought the stronger springs, just 'turned the adjustment knob to it's strongest setting'. And that he fixed a bungee cord/strap over each spring. To hold it down from moving up and releasing the binding.
So, I had to ask...you basically had them set to not release at all....even in a big fall? No, he said, even in a big fall I don't want to lose my tools...my skis.Something about the wrinkle in your forehead tells me there's a fit about to get thrown
And I never hear a single word you say when you tell me not to have my fun
It's the same old shit that I ain't gonna take off anyone.
and I never had a shortage of people tryin' to warn me about the dangers I pose to myself.
Patterson Hood of the DBT's
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