I hate my dukes, from the guy who enabled many of you to put dukes on more skis

[jondrums]

yeah, I know - sweet blog. whatever.

My AFD cracked yesterday. I used to think that people who broke their AFD's were kicking their toes in like I see people do, or didn't know how to adjust the height of them correctly. Well I treat mine pretty good and I am probably more careful at adjusting them than anyone. I will admit that I dropped a decent sized cliff, but I want my bindings to do that - that's why I wasn't on dynafits!

Last weekend, I learned the hard way that they like to pre-release with touring soles. I hit a tree really hard and sprained my MCL all at once from that fucking trainwreck.

And the last time I toured with them all my buddies hung out at the top in the freezing cold wind waiting for me to chip every last bit of ice out of them so we could ski down.

Last year, I had to do a heroic engineering job of rebuilding the touring lever pivot because its so poorly designed that the binding is virtually guaranteed to develop fore-aft slop.

What's next?

I'm done with dukes.

thanks for listening.

[Norseman]

I'm done with dukes.

I, too, decided that after a season on them.

Sorry to hear about your troubles. Now what?

[IrieRon]

This thread is gonna be so awesome.

[ticketchecker]

So how's that dynasolly plate coming along?

[squirrelmurphy]

So how's that dynasolly plate coming along?

ski up w/ dynafits, switch then click into sallys for the way down

edit: you're into clever fixes, why not make a burlier AFD? I'd buy a metal non-moving afd if it worked OK...

[shirk]

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[Hugh Conway]

Dukes do, indeed, suck

The only thing suckier than ducks is the new weighs the same as every other touring binding but sucks harder at touring FT10/12

[Driver]

I'd just like to reserve a space in what will soon become an epic thread.

For the record I do not hate my dukes, guess I'm resigned to breakage being part of the game.

[Pow4Brains]

Markers.

[Arty50]

My AFD cracked yesterday. I used to think that people who broke their AFD's were kicking their toes in like I see people do, or didn't know how to adjust the height of them correctly. Well I treat mine pretty good and I am probably more careful at adjusting them than anyone. I will admit that I dropped a decent sized cliff, but I want my bindings to do that - that's why I wasn't on dynafits!

Funny how no one can seem to find the holy grail of touring bindings. I'd be willing to bet that cliff would have exploderized a freeride toepiece also. I know several people who have done that just skiing.

As for the new improved Freeride Pro...only time will tell. I'd like to remind y'all that none of these are 916s.

[keksie]

out of the people that i've actually skied with i can count 5 that have bought dukes and every one of them has broken them. one of them 3 pairs. and two of them never huck anything at all. maybe my friends are just cursed? who knows.

[Skidog]

I did break an AFD early on but I do think i did make a mistake in the original toe height and was using touring soles (i think the extra compression of the rubber might be what causes the AFD breakage).
I now have about 100 days on my repaired dukes with the new AFD and i must say i have had no issues since that first breakage. I have been skiing them mostly with DIN soles inbounds. I have not noticed any fore/aft slop.

I ski pretty aggressively. I do not huck anything over 10-15ft and even then rarely. I am 6'3, and range between 210-220lbs.

[LivinCO]

edit: you're into clever fixes, why not make a burlier AFD? I'd buy a metal non-moving afd if it worked OK...

Fawk ya, I would buy them as well. I have broken 2 AFD's and pretty frustrated. 2 weeks ago a pre-released on a normal landing and performed a nice lawn dart. Markers suck, it's o-fish-all.

[iscariot]

Build a dyna-look plate or a dyna-solly plate with some sort of quick changer, like the blizzard system only without having to use tools, or at least make it easy to change with tools in the back country.


Dyna up, Sally/Look down.

[rob stokes]

who the fuck really wants to change bindings in the b/c? thats retarded.
sorry but it is.

[El Chupacabra]

2 Dukes, 1 Baron here, so far, so good. [/knock on wood]

[TeleThor]

Funny how no one can seem to find the holy grail of touring bindings.

ok ok... I'm kidding.

[single]

Jondrums, how big a guy are you? I dont personally know any small people who have broken dukes before, but some of my more built friends seem to have issues.

[Chugachjed]

I've been thinking about building some kind of plate to tour with look bindings. I dont know how to do the pivot yet. and I dont have a machine shop at my disposal.

[El Chupacabra]

I've been thinking about building some kind of plate to tour with look bindings. I dont know how to do the pivot yet. and I dont have a machine shop at my disposal.

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[el hefe]

No problems here, been dropping decent (20+) cliffs on them since early november. Have skied them hard inbounds in shitty hard conditions with lots of hard landings in the park, off of rollers, etc...

I only weigh 165lbs and take good care of them. They are getting thrashed cosmetically from the sled ski racks though.

[vailcat]

I'm here to also get my place in history. Mind have held up but for the most part I haven't done anything evil kneivel like with them either and my build is rather frail.

[jondrums]

place in history - that's a little over-dramatic...

I guess you guys all can tell what's coming... a new product for next year that might help alleviate the problem. iscariot - you guessed it...

who wants to swap bindings in the BC? not many people, but I for one would like to swap bindings in 1 minute depending on what the day will be like. I know plenty of people (myself included) who would throw a pair of 916's or FKS bindings in the pack to skin up to a good photo/film shot that requires burlier bindings.

with any luck at all, I can get some protos done before the season's out so I can make damn sure they'll hold up.

as long as people want em, I'll keep making dynadukes, but my heart won't be in it...

[jondrums]

Jondrums, how big a guy are you? I dont personally know any small people who have broken dukes before, but some of my more built friends seem to have issues.

yeah I'm 220 and seem to find myself constantly muscling my way out of a landing...

the icing problem knows no weight limits though, and that's just inexcusable for a touring binding.

[GeezerSteve]

Fixt if for ya

Dukes do, indeed, suck

The only thing suckier than ducks is the new weighs-the same-as-every-other-[non-Dynafit]-touring-binding but sucks harder at touring F10/12