DPS Wailer 112RP (aka my wallet is in for a beating)

[whyturn]

Pre ordered the 190 Hybrid today. Going to give DP a second chance. Will let you know next winter how it all works out.
Marshal, I'm giving DP another chance. Will let you all know next season how it handles Utah 4% blower.................

[Professor]

^^^ You ordered two pair?

[whyturn]

Comedy, no one pair should be fine............

[Professor]

Yeah, but now I cant delete my post or everyone will think I am crazy Hope you enjoy them. I really do hope DPS makes a bigger version of these. I didnt care for the 120s, but I am sure interested in these. So cant wait to see how the hybrids come out. Keep us posted!

[Kai]

Pulled the trigger on the pre-order for 112's in Lipstick Red.

I love my Lotus 138's in the backcountry, but for resort days, I find that I like them in the mornings when the snow is fresh, but they become less fun as the day goes on and the snow gets packed out.

I'm looking for a ski I can enjoy all day long at the resort. Also thinking of using these as a backcountry ski.

Already looking forward to next season.

[Bird Blaster]

core shot-


+wailer 112rp pure w/ touring bindings (for me that is dukes) as a side country, backcountry, general purpose ski. these would see 30-40 days a year.

+wailer 112rp hybrid w/ alpine bindings as a dedicated inbounds every dya ski. these would see 40+ days of skiing and service everything from chopped inbounds pow, sunny days, early season groomers and bumps/harpack.

Just a quick question. Thinking about getting these for next year. I would be wanting to fill the spot in my quiver that my 190 Goatams hold. I like the goats b/c they are good in powder, not as floaty as my Hellbents (yes I wish I had 138's instead...) but they are also great when it gets packed out in the afternoon and even when it is icy everywhere they can still lay down a nice trench. Would the 112rp's be better in a hybrid version for this, or pure? If hybrid, why is that? I guess I'm just not sure.

edit: other skis i'm considering for the same hole are Bibby Pro's or EHPs

[Milkshakes]

Just a quick question. Thinking about getting these for next year. I would be wanting to fill the spot in my quiver that my 190 Goatams hold. I like the goats b/c they are good in powder, not as floaty as my Hellbents (yes I wish I had 138's instead...) but they are also great when it gets packed out in the afternoon and even when it is icy everywhere they can still lay down a nice trench. Would the 112rp's be better in a hybrid version for this, or pure? If hybrid, why is that? I guess I'm just not sure.

edit: other skis i'm considering for the same hole are Bibby Pro's or EHPs

Good question. I pre-ordered the 112 pure as my inbounds/inbounds touring ski. I assumed the ss technology would dampen the ski enough to be fine in crud and cut-up. Hopefully, that is the case, because I'm starting to wonder if I should have ordered the hybrid.

[lurk]

I ordered the Hybrid, main reason being I just prefer a bamboo core. But I think it will as Marshal mentioned absorb a bit more of that cut up inbounds chop , which is where I want to use them.

(edit to read bamboo instead of wood)

[dingjong]

You need to be a little strange to buy dps skis in hybrid. If you need damper feel just get the Bros, Moments or whatever (Dynastar is even better at this).

[Beyond]

^^^Uhh... Lot of folks like the DPS designs, just want a bit damper (or cheaper) if weight/AT isn't an issue. The other companies you mention each make really distinctive feeling skis, share neither materials nor design specs, and are clearly not damper versions of DPS. So your point is??

[whyturn]

You need to be a little strange to buy dps skis in hybrid. If you need damper feel just get the Bros, Moments or whatever (Dynastar is even better at this).

Can you spot me $1,019. Already spent $950 on Lhasas this year and I'm running out of blood to donate.

I just want a lighter/burlier S7 for less. So seems to make sense as a playful inbounds ski. If i wanted AT I'd mount the lhasa with Dynafiddles and go eat some granola....

Also want a cheaper/safer route to test DPS........

So now I just need a good pair of clamps..........

[theetruscan]

You need to be a little strange to buy dps skis in hybrid. If you need damper feel just get the Bros, Moments or whatever (Dynastar is even better at this).

15m turn radius on the 112RPs, 37m radius on the lhasas. They might ski a touch differently. There are, of course, other differences, but that seems like a good start.

[Kai]

I just wish this ski had a tail notch for skins. I will likely be using them with Dynafits for backcountry, and a tail notch is better than the black duct tape I end up using on skis with no notch. These are touted as a backcountry ski. Why no tail notch?

[bobrmr]

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I just want a lighter/burlier S7 for less. So seems to make sense as a playful inbounds ski....

Pretty much what I'm thinking. New Super 7's are going for $700-800, you can pre-order the 112rp hybrid for about $700 shipped. For around the same price, I think i'd take the dps' over the rossis'..

[Kai]

I'm thinking these Wailers are a good candidate for Dynaduke plates. Dukes for Resort/slackcountry when I want to wear my downhill boots, and Dynafits for backcountry with my Garmont Axons. Any strange mounting issues for the all carbon ski that would make them not compatible with the Dynadukes?

[Core Shot]

Trigger pulled on 3 pair.

I desperately want to change one of those to a 200cm version.

Is anyone else that ordered or that is willing to order by the end of this month interested in getting a 200cm version with a bigger turn radius (20 to 25m) rather than the 18m radius of the 190cm version?

(note to DPS - your website shows 15m for all ski lengths)

200cm should be no big deal for any skiers here unless you are a midget.
My 200cm lotus 120 ski like a 190 or 185 traditional ski.
I really think going longer is better with scoop and rocker skis.

So, WHO ELSE CAN COMMIT TO ORDERING A 200CM RP112?

[marshalolson]

You need to be a little strange to buy dps skis in hybrid. If you need damper feel just get the Bros, Moments or whatever (Dynastar is even better at this).

JUST CURIOUS WHAT SPECICIFIC MODELS OF DPS HYBRID YOU HAVE SKIED, IN WHAT CONDITIONS, AND SPECIFICALLY ARE YOU COMPARING THEM TO IN REGARDS OF MOMENT, DYNASTAR, ETC.

thanks. just curious, cause i think the hybrids ski really nice and are a prefect ski for what they are.

[toiletduck]

JUST CURIOUS WHAT SPECICIFIC MODELS OF DPS HYBRID YOU HAVE SKIED, IN WHAT CONDITIONS, AND SPECIFICALLY ARE YOU COMPARING THEM TO IN REGARDS OF MOMENT, DYNASTAR, ETC.

thanks. just curious, cause i think the hybrids ski really nice and are a prefect ski for what they are.

They're actually cheaper than PM Gear's skis, too, in the same price range as Moment, and way cheaper than Dynastars MSRP, and even after BC.com's "sale" price.

[marshalolson]

i also think pmgears and moments ski awesome, but all in a very different way. and all have different models that, strangely, all ski different too.

just curious what dingjing's reference is.

[CaliBrit]

I ordered the Hybrid, main reason being I just prefer a wood core. But I think it will as Marshal mentioned absorb a bit more of that cut up inbounds chop , which is where I want to use them.

The Pures do still have a wood core you know, check the pics:

http://dpsskis.com/blogs/2010/march/...-ss-technology

[splat]

That build quality is very nice looking on the finish, Marsh. I like that Stephan and I are reaching in the same direction with the hybrid construction and am dying to hear how the alum lams quell chatter. Tell him to give me a call sometime to talk shop. And I'll call you soon, broheimer.

[marshalolson]

just got back last night. will try to call you tomorrow if i can get away from being over the head in work!

[Foggy_Goggles]

I might of said this before somewhere but here goes...

I like the Super 7, the versatility is hard to beat. I'm not a quiver guy, I'll ski the S7 in the trees at the Jane, on groomers, big faces at Silverton, the deep in UT whatever. That said I don't feel like they butter, slave, go sideways as well as I'd like. You just can't dump speed, feather, line up airs, or powerslide gullies as well as my MegaTwats can. Is this a function or the sidecut, camber or something else. Do the RP112s address this? Basically, is their a "better" S7 for me or are my dislikes a function of the "compromise" nature of this type of ski?

[marshalolson]

man, to be honest, i feel like i would want you demo them and decide for yourself... i think that is a little too subjective for me to really answer.

[The Dad]

I desperately want to change one of those to a 200cm version.

That might push me over the fence to a sure buy. The only concern I've really got so far is the turn radius.

FYI, the specs on the site have a typo -- the running length on the 190s is 149cm. So all else being equal, 200s would have a 159cm running length.