DPS Wailer 112RP (aka my wallet is in for a beating)

**Mustonen** · 02-01-2010, 07:31 AM

Thinking out loud...

obviously rocker will make a long ski (195+) ski shorter, but might that be mitigated a little bit by the short turn radius? A 200cm 120 w/ a 40+m radius might have a relatively broad appeal, just b/c it's still an easy ski to handle, but would a 200cm 112rp suit a similarly wide range of skiers? or broader? A hooky 200cm ski hardly seems to make sense - Twitchy at mach schnell + a lot of length to horse around at slower speeds.

I'm intrigued, either way... and my balls would urge me to go 200 even if my legs screamed for the 190.

Per prof's comments below - high 20s to low 30s sidecut would sound a little sweeter for a still turny/carvy 200cm charger, at least on paper.

**Professor** · 02-01-2010, 10:54 AM

I would be up for some 200 112rps with a wider waist and a bit less sidecut. 18m is way too much sidecut for a big ski IMO. Even my Super 7s have a longer radius and even they could use a little less shape. Again, just my $.02.

**verbier61** · 02-01-2010, 11:14 AM

supacool, but shy italians ask for a 18-something size

**Milkshakes** · 02-01-2010, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by dps

There will be a preorder opening in March.

Would love to build a 200cm Wailer 112RP, and also a 200cm Wailer 105, but we would need 20 solid 50% down deposits of each to get it done. So if the interest is there, let's do it.

Those are hot, both the skis and the girls... Do you have a price point for the skis and for the pre-order yet? TIA....

**xtrmjoe** · 02-01-2010, 03:00 PM

My whole quiver may be taken over by dps, must resist

**rabbit** · 02-01-2010, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by xtrmjoe

My whole quiver may be taken over by dps, must resist

Resistance is futile.

**hop** · 02-01-2010, 04:42 PM

Those look like Zags with tip rocker. I'm not sure I'm sold on the super-carver sidecut either.

SS on the other hand... looks awesome!

**single** · 02-01-2010, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by hop

Those look like Zags with tip rocker. I'm not sure I'm sold on the super-carver sidecut either.

SS on the other hand... looks awesome!

Based on dimensions, it looks like a rockered 192 bro that is 2mm narrower throughout. The big bro definitely isnt a carver, nor would I say that it is hooky.

This looks good.

**Mustonen** · 02-01-2010, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by single

Based on dimensions, it looks like a rockered 192 bro that is 2mm narrower throughout. The big bro definitely isnt a carver, nor would I say that it is hooky.

This looks good.

Big bro has a 35m sidecut, not 20 (or 22-24, which a 200 w/ the same dims/shape would probably be).

**pappag** · 02-01-2010, 06:17 PM

Judging this ski based on three given dimensions alone is doing a bit of disservice to DPS here as there's more to the 112 than what is seen in the pictures posted in this thread. Both the tip and tail have an elongated balloon look similar to the Armada JJ.

**single** · 02-01-2010, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by Mustonen

Big bro has a 35m sidecut, not 20 (or 22-24, which a 200 w/ the same dims/shape would probably be).

Doh! Not thinking. I hit my head today.

**stuckathuntermtn** · 02-01-2010, 11:00 PM

will they be about $1000 and made in China? awesome. stop kissing this guy's ass. Yeah, I know, it's got carbon-fiber in it. I think that was a big buzzword about 5 years ago. I'll give you $200 and a box of dog treats for the slightly butterface stripper lady.

**Professor** · 02-01-2010, 11:50 PM

^^^ I dont think anyone is just simply kissing his ass. If you have ever skied DPS they are definitely different. Some people love the feel of them. Personally I didnt care for the 120s, but this new shape and new construction have me intrigued. If you want real ass kissing around these parts there are plenty of other indy manufacturers that are the BEST EVAR in every single post

**Arno** · 02-02-2010, 01:40 AM

Originally Posted by NPG

Judging this ski based on three given dimensions alone is doing a bit of disservice to DPS here as there's more to the 112 than what is seen in the pictures posted in this thread. Both the tip and tail have an elongated balloon look similar to the Armada JJ.

+ surely the 18m sidecut is because there is a short running length on hard snow because of the tip/tails. once the ski is in soft snow the 18m seems kinda irrelevant

**verbier61** · 02-02-2010, 02:54 AM

Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn

will they be about $1000 and made in China? awesome. stop kissing this guy's ass. Yeah, I know, it's got carbon-fiber in it. I think that was a big buzzword about 5 years ago. I'll give you $200 and a box of dog treats for the slightly butterface stripper lady.

ass kissing dudes here are those who skied the DPS and want more, me included.

**mr_gyptian** · 02-02-2010, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn

will they be about $1000 and made in China? awesome. stop kissing this guy's ass. Yeah, I know, it's got carbon-fiber in it. I think that was a big buzzword about 5 years ago. I'll give you $200 and a box of dog treats for the slightly butterface stripper lady.

you are a fucking child.

DPS has been and is doing things with skis that other manufacturers, boutique and corporate, haven't even conjured up in their wildest dreams.

**schindlerpiste** · 02-02-2010, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by Arno

Haven't seen these mentioned elsewhere but these look mighty sexy (notwithstanding hotties holding them in 1st pic)

(images culled from DPS facebook - hope that's OK)

Look a bit like DPS's answer to the S7

More like DPS ans. to the Lhasa Pow.

**Mustonen** · 02-02-2010, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by schindlerpiste

More like DPS ans. to the Lhasa Pow.

What do you base this on? Name one defining characteristic that bears a closer resemblance to the lhasa pow than the s7 (save carbon layup).

**schindlerpiste** · 02-02-2010, 02:30 PM

Just that when I saw, and fondled, this ski, that is the thought that came to mind.
Shape
flex
tip.
S7, other than the Supa7 is a noodle. This ski is no noodle.

**Professor** · 02-02-2010, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by Mustonen

What do you base this on? Name one defining characteristic that bears a closer resemblance to the lhasa pow than the s7 (save carbon layup).

Come on, every ski is a copy of something PMGear puts out. Didnt you know that? I cant even figure out what other ski companies made before Bros were around to copy?

Now back to your regularly scheduled topic

**hop** · 02-02-2010, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by schindlerpiste

Just that when I saw, and fondled, this ski, that is the thought that came to mind.
Shape
flex
tip.

I'm with the Prof here.

**flip** · 02-02-2010, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by Professor

I would be up for some 200 112rps with a wider waist and a bit less sidecut. 18m is way too much sidecut for a big ski IMO. Even my Super 7s have a longer radius and even they could use a little less shape. Again, just my $.02.

Isn't that a 200cm lotus 120?

**The Dad** · 02-02-2010, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by Professor

I would be up for some 200 112rps with a wider waist and a bit less sidecut. 18m is way too much sidecut for a big ski IMO. Even my Super 7s have a longer radius and even they could use a little less shape. Again, just my $.02.

My thoughts as well. My 190 Rubys, with practically the same measurements, end up with a 27m radius, and for my taste, they're just on the right side of turny.

**Professor** · 02-02-2010, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by flip

Isn't that a 200cm lotus 120?

The 120s have a long turn radius, but they have a real pronounced pintail design. Personally I didnt care for the 120s at all when I tried them. That is why this new one intrigues me since it should rail a turn on hard snow a bit more than the 120s. Just my $.02 anyway....