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    Pucker Face Steepness? (Mt Cody)

    Fierce debate at work right now, and we have decided to let y'all judge.

    How steep is Pucker Face on Cody Peak, JH, WY?

    Thanks for any insight!
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    45* Ive been told.
    Its been on my hit list for a while, but avi conditions are never on my side
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    Wyoming is probably like Montana and Washington??


    Quote from some dude name AT Apostle. I think he's kinda like the Steve Zissou of skiing:

    Steep-speak International Translations:

    France: Subtract 5 degrees & 1/3 of the stated vertical. ie: 1000 meters of 50 degrees = 660m of 45 degrees.

    Alaska Heliskiing - Subtract 20 degrees and cut the vertical in half. FIVE THOUSAND FUGGIN' FEET OF 60 DEGREES (Dude!) = 2,500' of 40 degrees.

    Montana & Washington - accept at stated values.

    California - Subtract 10 degrees, nip the vert by 1/4 and double the width of any stated couloir.

    Oregon - there is no steep skiing in Oregon.

    The East Coast - Overstated stats, but the conditions justify it. Accept at stated value.

    Colorado - Whatever Lou said it was.

    Utah - I'll take the 5th on that.

    Film/Movies - cut stated angles and length in half.

    Canada in general

    It would only be fair to break it down into the major mountain ranges...

    Coast Range - Accept stated angle, add 25% to stated width and shorten length by 1/3. (lack of sun makes chutes seem narrow and skiing cement makes them seem longer than they really are)

    Columbia Range - There's no reason to ski anything above 42 degrees here, so all steep skiing angles & distances are estimates at best, usually done by a certified guide from a helicopter to impress clients. Suspect.

    Canadian Rockies - accept stated values for all six lines that have been skied there.

    http://www.telemarktalk.com/phpBB/vi...pe+angle+state

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    Quote Originally Posted by prestonf View Post
    California - Subtract 10 degrees, nip the vert by 1/4 and double the width of any stated couloir.

    so true, every thing here is like 500 vert 20 deg and a 100 ft wide, but we have really good photographers, sooooo...
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    anyone care to comment on my 45*?
    I too am curious
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    https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/a...1&d=1257473506
    all i can offer is this pic and.. ITS FUCKIN STEEP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by passholer View Post
    https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/a...1&d=1257473506
    all i can offer is this pic and.. ITS FUCKIN STEEP.
    Vails steeper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skiingsamurai View Post
    anyone care to comment on my 45*?
    I too am curious
    45 degrees seems like a good number. It's pretty intimidating from the top because it's convex and rolls out of sight about halfway down.

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    I recall Coombs telling me it was 50 degrees. I trust his judgment. He was always whipping out his slope meter and measuring things. He was really into his sluff and avi theories based on different factors. One of those being slope angle.
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    I can't be the only one singing Cartman's rendition of "Poker Face" in my head after reading the title of this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prestonf View Post
    Wyoming is probably like Montana and Washington??


    Quote from some dude name AT Apostle. I think he's kinda like the Steve Zissou of skiing:

    Steep-speak International Translations:

    France: Subtract 5 degrees & 1/3 of the stated vertical. ie: 1000 meters of 50 degrees = 660m of 45 degrees.

    Alaska Heliskiing - Subtract 20 degrees and cut the vertical in half. FIVE THOUSAND FUGGIN' FEET OF 60 DEGREES (Dude!) = 2,500' of 40 degrees.

    Montana & Washington - accept at stated values.

    California - Subtract 10 degrees, nip the vert by 1/4 and double the width of any stated couloir.

    Oregon - there is no steep skiing in Oregon.

    The East Coast - Overstated stats, but the conditions justify it. Accept at stated value.

    Colorado - Whatever Lou said it was.

    Utah - I'll take the 5th on that.

    Film/Movies - cut stated angles and length in half.

    Canada in general

    It would only be fair to break it down into the major mountain ranges...

    Coast Range - Accept stated angle, add 25% to stated width and shorten length by 1/3. (lack of sun makes chutes seem narrow and skiing cement makes them seem longer than they really are)

    Columbia Range - There's no reason to ski anything above 42 degrees here, so all steep skiing angles & distances are estimates at best, usually done by a certified guide from a helicopter to impress clients. Suspect.

    Canadian Rockies - accept stated values for all six lines that have been skied there.

    http://www.telemarktalk.com/phpBB/vi...pe+angle+state
    Most of the steep lines in AK are just big cliffs everywhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FNG View Post
    I can't be the only one singing Cartman's rendition of "Poker Face" in my head after reading the title of this thread.
    FNG's back!

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    ive been told 52 on the rollover

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    And mid 40's on the in-n-out.

    With 90 on the mandatories!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rideit View Post
    With 90 on the mandatories!
    Hahaha - I was just waiting for this answer...

    So prolly 45-50 is what I'm taking away. (If you don't have great confidence in the 52 number?

    Thanks all!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhelihiker View Post
    so true, every thing here is like 500 vert 20 deg and a 100 ft wide, but we have really good photographers, sooooo...
    Yeah, and AT Apostle clearly wasn't joking, and clearly doesn't know what he's talking about.

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    if you dont air the cliff band... even a lil. your doing it wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TGR420 View Post
    I recall Coombs telling me it was 50 degrees. I trust his judgment. He was always whipping out his slope meter and measuring things. He was really into his sluff and avi theories based on different factors. One of those being slope angle.
    I'll go with this one, he actually talked my into getting one of those cardboard inclometers. He had a degree from Montana in geology i think didn't he? He was always talking about rock formations and how they relate to what we were doing. My first thought was 40 degrees, but if Coombs said it was 50, then goddamn it it's 50

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    Mrs Roo tackles the first few turns. Make your own estimate of the steepness here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prestonf View Post
    Oregon - there is no steep skiing in Oregon.
    Funny, that was more or less my impression, too.
    Living vicariously through myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grrrr View Post
    Funny, that was more or less my impression, too.
    That's right. Keep moving. Nothing to see here. K thx bai.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roo View Post
    Mrs Roo tackles the first few turns. Make your own estimate of the steepness here.

    i believe thats a boney and steep no-shadows

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    Here's a picture taken by Doug Coombs ages ago of my wife that I'm 99% sure is pucker face. Sorry for the iPhone pic of a pic, but you get the idea. This is 45 degrees? Obviously depends on where you are on the face.

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    ^^^ thats not pucker

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    and neither is the other pic posted, that ones def no shadows

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