You guys want them back? Full Metal 916's

[khyber.pass]

Metal 914s would interest me. I got rid of my STH16s as I don't need that much DIN. I have STH14s, which I like, but would LOVE something all metal that I won't have to worry about cracking. (Never hoarded 'em -- always hoarded the Look tts).

[runethechamp]

Yes, absolutely interested. And I love the look and feel of my old 957s. I also think that if you ski on a DIN setting of less than 9, you don't need an all metal binding, but that's just nitpicking.

[westoxified]

I concur. 957s kill it. I have three or so minty pair. And I gotta give a big shout out to Salomon for using the same hole pattern and exact same brake arms for the last, what, like 25+ years? So smart. It's amazing I can pull some 130mm arms off of an STH housing and pop them into a 957 housing and go.

Agree, simplicity and compatibility are so important. Another vote for this resurrection. Maybe sth afd (as was said earlier). And bring back those 957 colors. Black, white, and blue/purple or whatever those were. I need something to match my Schneider one-piece.

Isn't that what this thread is about? Listening to their customer. Not saying their going to do anything, but it appears that they are open to peoples ideas/opinions.

Are you someone who called french fries, freedom fries?

Yes, my name is westoxified and I loathe the French. When I ski it's either pizza or shock-and-awe.

[wren]

Yes. I would definitely be in favour. I've owned 4 pairs of 916s in my time, currently have 2 pairs, plus a pair of 920s. I'm not sure I would be able to pay full retail for them, but having them back in production would definitely help the supply situation in the resale market.

If perhaps there was a steezy stormtrooper white colour option and/or polished metal option, I could be convinced to buy some new ones.

[bossass]

And bring back those 957 colors. Black, white, and blue/purple or whatever those were.

Got these on mint 7XKs a few summer's ago for $7.99 at Goodwill. Never seen another set the this colorway. 977s, not 957s.

[PowTron]

Yes, bring them back...

916 and/or 914

[runethechamp]

Got these on mint 7XKs a few summer's ago for $7.99 at Goodwill. Never seen another set the this colorway. 977s, not 957s.

I have a pair of DIN 14 957s in the black/white/hot pink color scheme, which are the same colors you can see somewhere in License to Thrill, although probably on a DIN 16 version of the binding (I wonder if it is behind Kevin Andrews when he says he would be Elvis when asked about if he could be any musician in the world, who would he be). And they rule. And if I'm not mistaken, that was the last all-metal DIN 14 model they had?

[Professor]

997 Equipes went to 14 din (yellow) and came after the 957 series and are all metal. Just an fyi.

[Rasputin]

I don't have pics like that...

But, in support of a 916 comeback based on business sense, maybe they should check out how fast the binding harvest threads sell out every fall right after all the ski swaps are up.

There is demand for the 9xx series and even more demand for metal ones.

Ain't that the truth, last fall I sold off pairs of 957E, 977E, and 997E, in nothing flat, and had people asking if I happened to have any more after they were all sold off.

[The Dad]

I gotta assume that there's a larger market for a DIN 14 binding as compared to a DIN 16 binding?

I think it's determined less by the high end of the range than the low. As long as they'll get down to 5 or 6, those of us who run a 12 or below couldn't care less.

[2phatspat]

Hey cody when do you think we will acctually be able to buy these? Was going to buy some sth16 for my mconkski but only want to mount them once. Wondering if I should hold out and wait or just go plastic sth... Would rather mount once w metal 916. What do you think??

[zo]

No Thanks.

I haven't noticed any differences in retention or performance between the STH 16 and the all metal 916's. I mount and set them up correctly and they work how they're supposed to. I prefer the STH's AFD to the spheric pedal looking AFD on the last version of the metal ones (although I bet they'd use the STH on any future metal versions), and the lighter weight is a bonus. Ironically, the only pair of Salomon bindings I've ever had a problem with were a pair of all metal 916's that had one heel that tested out way too low and needed to be set at 15 to perform as if it were set at 11 or 12.

On the other hand, I usually only keep bindings for one or two seasons. I can imagine the all metal 916's could be more coveted for those who wanna keep the same binding for 5 + seasons on many different skis...

[skifishbum]

Hell yeah if you can make em extra burley weigh 7 lbs and cost $600
I'd feel better about the cost of Dynafits.

[Caucasian Asian]

More metal Solly love...

[arild]

I like the sound of anything all-metal. Caucasian, you seem to know which skis I need, now I probably need 916s as well.

[adam]

I wish I could get a percentage check on how many people in this thread actually need a binding that goes to sixteen. I know I don't.

[Merlyn]

I think it's determined less by the high end of the range than the low. As long as they'll get down to 5 or 6, those of us who run a 12 or below couldn't care less.

Good point. Although I typically run my DIN at 10, I'm coming off knee surgery and want to go lower (say 7 or 8), at least initially. So that rules out the 916/STH 16 for now.

[Damian Sanders]

I wish I could get a percentage check on how many people in this thread actually need a binding that goes to sixteen. I know I don't.

I run them at 13 (or 14 on 11-17's), and have come out of them. Just got some S920's too for special occasions.

FYI you want to be in the middle of the din range, so running 14 din bindings at 12 or 13 really isn't the greatest.

[StroupSkier]

997 Equipes went to 14 din (yellow) and came after the 957 series and are all metal. Just an fyi.

I don't think the 14 DIN version was all metal.

[runethechamp]

I don't think the 14 DIN version was all metal.

According to Mechmaster here: [ame="http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35189"]Salomon binding production years (997, 977, 900) - Teton Gravity Research Forums[/ame] the 957 was the last year with the metal toe in the equipe model. I don't have any 997 so I don't know for sure.

[Voltron]

s920 is still in production no?

http://www.salomon.com/fr/#/ski/bind...ngs/920-eq-rac

[Professor]

On the 997s, I am pretty sure the toe on the pair I have aint plastic. But enough threadjack.... so now Alka where is that info on the new skis

[StroupSkier]

According to Mechmaster here: Salomon binding production years (997, 977, 900) - Teton Gravity Research Forums the 957 was the last year with the metal toe in the equipe model. I don't have any 997 so I don't know for sure.

Yea, people kept thinking there was an "All Metal" 14 DIN version, however no one ever came up with the binding to prove it. As far as I know, until someone can produce the binder the last all metal 14 DIN binder solly made was the 747 I posted pictures of in the same thread.

[CaddyDaddy77]

s920 is still in production no?

http://www.salomon.com/fr/#/ski/bind...ngs/920-eq-rac

Yes, but Euro distribution only along with all other Salomon Race gear. It exists just doesn't ship this side of the pond. Try to find it on the US site, non-existent.

[Alkasquawlik]

Hey cody when do you think we will acctually be able to buy these? Was going to buy some sth16 for my mconkski but only want to mount them once. Wondering if I should hold out and wait or just go plastic sth... Would rather mount once w metal 916. What do you think??

Look HERE if you want metal. Still a few pair left. Don't hold out.