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  1. #3151
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    187 Bonafides
    191 Lhasa Fats
    195 Superbros
    190 Backcountry w/inserts for ft12 and pivots
    186 EHP
    191 Billygoat tour w/inserts for ft12 and pivots
    191 Cease&Desist
    192 Lotus 138
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  2. #3152
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    ^solid maggot quiver there, here's my meagre but distilled offering of what ive got with me in BC.

    190 Praxis powder boards, bf inserts for STH

    192 DPS Wailer RPC, sollyfits

    182 Praxis Yeti, standard build, bf inserts for Plum and STH

    And one pair of Cochise pro 130s and both sets of soles to rule them all.

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  3. #3153
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    sf - where did you mount your 191 Fats?

    edit : oops my heel is fixed.


    PS Sexy quiver
    In search of the elusive artic powder weasel ...

  4. #3154
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    Quote Originally Posted by pfluffenmeister View Post
    sf - where did you mount your 191 Fats?

    edit : oops my heel is fixed.


    PS Sexy quiver
    Mounted at 0. Have skied them both at 0 and -1,5 (ntn), but due to a knee injury I haven't been able to tele much the last year. Will try to get them out more in the spring, but so far the line seems fine. Tips need to be driven though

  5. #3155
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    For this week. Super turbo and automatic for sale
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  6. #3156
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    With lots of bindingfreedom inserts.

  7. #3157
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    Quote Originally Posted by arild View Post
    father/daughter skis. one pair is 87cm, the other is 200, but with an 87cm sidecut center.

    i named the big ones the Ladies' Longboard Day, igneous factory made.134/119/123, 540mm tip rocker, 50mm tip splay.flat as a skinny boy underneath, 220mm tail rocker,25mm tail splay. full length wood core, maple sidewalls.



    norsk
    Any time on the iggys yet? Spring is coming and big lines are waiting. Would love to hear how they ski...

  8. #3158
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leisg View Post
    Any time on the iggys yet? Spring is coming and big lines are waiting. Would love to hear how they ski...
    I gonna bump this. Arild, speak up!
    simen@downskis.com DOWN SKIS

  9. #3159
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    Ok, then.

    They ski like shit.*




    *On ice and hard packed very close to it. In any sort of loose, deep and groomed, they´re pretty awesome. One issue has been hookiness in the nose and tail, but pretty much fixed with a gummy stone to the contact points, could see it entirely eliminated with a proper file at 45 degrees..

    Slarvy, carvy (for a 56mR ski), and floaty. Very defined balance point, and I suspect I made the tips too long, taking a bit too much sidecut off. There´s a bunch of support in the foreski, due to the long and low rise rocker, but if I were to have another go at it (and I will), I´d shorten the nose/taper down from 44cm to about ten centimeters shorter, the extra length going into sidecut. Look at the thread I just posted, and maybe you´ll find some answers there.. The hookiness mentioned above would probably go away by doing this.

    They go through crud like butter, and the tips are soft enough so they want to go upwards once clear through a section of cut-up. Powder, knee deep, goes similarly well.

    Speed limit? Perhaps, on ice/groomers. I´ve said before that you can carve anything with a regular sidecut, and you can most definitely carve a 56m radius as well, but since the sidecut is short, that isn´t something I want to do very often. It can get dangerous, and you need to keep on your toes, shifting stance a bunch to achieve some sort of speed control. They go really fast, so maybe it´s just human error. In pow or crud, where the whole surface area comes in some sort of contact with snow, there is absolutely no speed limit. They just go really fucking fast, and if you keep a neutral to forward stance, you can do any turn shape you want. Even bump-making shortturns. If you´re a gaper and tend to pitch your ass and knees backwards in the belief that you can shut down speed doing so, you´d just end up hurting yourself. Most of the depth of the sidecut is in the front (as always), and if I were to calculate the waist-tail portion of the sidecut with a bit of creative CAD-work, it´d be about 80-85m. The tail is pretty stiff, too. Heehee.

    So, to sum up, they´re good fun. In all, even remotely good snow.

  10. #3160
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    Mr and Mrs AyasFreeski 2013 quiver

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  11. #3161
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    ^^ assuming those are both protests the length difference makes them look totally different. I am guessing the shorter one is the 168 and the longer one is the 196 but just proportionally they look radically different to my eyes. Its a curious things looking at it from a ski design perspective in terms of the ratio of taper to sidecut. Are they the same throughout the model cause the taper on the shorter ski looks may closer (proportionatly) to boot center then on the 196. This makes the shorter version looks more like a powboard then a protest although the sidecut is clearly there. This is just based on what I see when I look at my own protests and powboards.

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  12. #3162
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    Good eye, 163 has 53cm and 32cm tip and tail taper, the 196 has 54cm and 33cm. So you are absolutely right, the 163 tapers way closer to boot center than the 177, 186, and 196 lengths.

    Every time I look at Mrs.AF on her Protests, I say out loud "Those are some badass skis." And as I've written elsewhere, she loves 'em and skis 'em practically everyday.

    Which reminds me of some advice I have for the forum...get your girlfriend this ski. She'll be happier and skiing better (meaning you'll feel less offensive for ripping down the mountain on your Protest 196s and constantly waiting for her with a snow-crusted beard and a shit-eating-grin...hell, even if you don't regularly rip and leave your lady behind, I'm sure you'll find there to be less waiting around in general, the 163 is both fast and agile with good crud busting power), not to mention more likely to tolerate your love affair with the mountain.

  13. #3163
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    ^ whats up with the topsheet shine difference?
    My 187s look like your mrs. always thought it looked a bit pixelated and dull...first world problems

  14. #3164
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    Looks like the printer cartridges were low. The lack of color on her skis is by far the biggest source of our relationship problems. Next year, custom graphic and more sex.

  15. #3165
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    The difference in top sheet appearance is a function of the top sheet material, not printer problems. The dull, matte finish is a thick nylon material which is very resistant to scratches and chips. The downside to this material is it is heavy and the appearance.

  16. #3166
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    Update.....sold my 185 LibTech FF5s and bought some 185 Blizzard Cochises. FF5s overlapped with the Bibbys.

    Right to left:

    187 4FRNT Hojis (with Deadbolt 15s)
    184 Moment Bibbys (with Salomon STH 14 and MFDs)
    185 Blizzard Cochise (with Look Pivot 18s)
    182 Moment PB&J (with Look Pivot 18s)
    181 LibTech Pipe NAS (with Rossi FKS 180s)

    Also included my 15 yr old son's 174 Bibbys and 171 StepUps, and the wife's 149 K2 Missbehaveds. Oh yeah, other 13 yr old son is on the dark side....LibTech T Rice board:

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  17. #3167
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    Quiver update:

    188 Kastle MX98 (daily driver)
    188 DPS Wailer 105 Pure Flex 2 (touring)
    191 Movement Goliath (charger / crud ski)
    193 4FRNT EHP (tree ski)
    191 PM Gear Lhasa Pow Fat (TBD)
    190 DPS Lotus 120 Pure Flex 3 (Storm / Pow ski: inbounds & out)
    202 DPS Lotus 138 Pure Flex 2 (Heli / Cat ski)?

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    In search of the elusive artic powder weasel ...

  18. #3168
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    Have you skied those 202s yet?!
    "Alpine rock and steep, deep powder are what I seek, and I will always find solace there." - Bean Bowers

    photos

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    ^^^ not yet.

    my ongoing debate on mounting options coupled with the lack of uber-deep days (and having other go to pow-sticks) has delayed their (for me) maiden voyage.

    I think that I'm just going to drop my Plums in the existing holes and take them for a spin when I hit Silverton when unguided starts.
    (provided there's appropriate snow conditions).



    on an unrelated note, I skied the EHPs the last two days and am completely impressed with how well they ski trees.
    (esp. for a 193; way more forgiving than my Goliaths).
    In search of the elusive artic powder weasel ...

  20. #3170
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    FWIW, I had some 202s a few years back and loved them in anything soft. They were mounted w/ telemark bindings and ended up being a bit weird on hardpack in telemark turns due to the change in contact point when dropping a knee. No problems doing pturns though. I had major durability issues though - they were from the bamboo sidewall days.
    TRs, photos, videos, and building skis (2 pairs so far...):
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  21. #3171
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    couple tweaks for '13
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    177 Praxis protest w guardians
    178 Bluehouse maestro w sollyfit plates
    180 Praxis BC w dynafit ft12
    170 Moment tahoe w dynafit st
    179 4frnt ehp w inserts for dynafit
    BD quadrant
    Full Tilt

  22. #3172
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    My Quiver

    For a full listing I've got a google spreadsheet here, but off the top of my head I have:
    Black Crows Sevun II
    Black Crows Nocta 188cm
    Head Rock 'n Roll 173cm
    Head Mojo 94 173cm
    G3 Manhattan 180cm
    Head Jerry 104 181cm
    Rossi SL 155cm
    Head GS 190cm
    Atomic DH 215cm
    Just Moving to a new house so this is the most recent pic I have. You know it goes some skis come and go...
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  23. #3173
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    My quiver at the moment - just looking for a praxi yeti to bat in the two spot

    K2 wayback - 181 cm
    Dynafit Stoke - 182 cm
    LaSportiva Hi5 - 188 cm

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    Climb the mountains and get their good tidings. Natures peace will flow into you as sunshine flows into trees. The winds will blow their own freshness into you, and the storms their energy, while cares will drop away from you like the leaves of Autumn. - John Muir

    "How long can it last? For fuck sake this isn't heroin -
    suck it up princess" - XXX on getting off mj

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  24. #3174
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoPostholio View Post
    My quiver at the moment - just looking for a praxi yeti to bat in the two spot

    K2 wayback - 181 cm
    Dynafit Stoke - 182 cm
    LaSportiva Hi5 - 188 cm

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    Looks like you need Praxis to make skins!
    Let us so live that when we come to die even the undertaker will be sorry - Mark Twain

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    Missing a 190 Volkl Snow Ranger and a soon to be mine 184 H2O Tazlina.

    L-->R
    195 Praxis Powboard, sth 14
    181 ON3P Caylor, axial 2 140 (little too short, fun in tight trees though)
    177 Volkl Bridge, Barons (what the Tazlina is replacing)
    185 Volkl Karma, s900. Rock skis, nostalgia.
    180 K2 Big Kahuna, CRUD BUSTERS!
    207 K2 MSL. Short skis suck, big skis truck.
    185 Dynastar GS with P14
    165 Dynastar SL w/ P14

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