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  1. #4051
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    Quote Originally Posted by smooth operator View Post
    Are you sure you're not overdoing it with the Fritschi's? :O
    The Tecton 12's are fucking awesome, so I'm going to say no on his behalf. I just got a second pair mounted last week.

    Pure touring: Tecton 12 all the way
    Slackcountry: Shifts

    Done and done. Where we are now with touring bindings is pretty damn amazing compared to even 3-4 years ago.

    Kid-kapow... much as I love the Wren 108's and tectons, how much does that setup weigh? I'm sure it's a hell of a lot of fun on the way down, though.

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    Are you guys riding tectons in bounds??


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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuse View Post
    Are you guys riding tectons in bounds??

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    I’ve been noticing this trend. Why are people using tech bindings inbounds?


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    The Quiver Pic Rerun Thread

    TahoeJ said “pure touring: Tecton” so I assume he’s doing it right.

    I think Kid Kapow is a smaller guy, so he may be able to get away with a beefier touring binding inbounds.

    The performance of an alpine binding on the way down cannot be beat IMO. I skied beast 14s inbounds a few days, and prereleased multiple times.


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    Regular frontside stuff:


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    Deep snow skis haven't been out of the closet since 2014.. Elan M777 192 cm 87 waist and M999 99 waist. I also added some K2 233 Mids to my retro quiver.. Skied them last month..
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  6. #4056
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    i am 5'8 and a bit, and 150lbs, and the tectons perform awesomely for my needs (slackcountry / resort killer quiver) with hawx130xtds. To behonest I am contemplating getting Fischers new 130 boots next year for a bit added beef, instead of going down the shift route. I honestly can't really tell that much of a difference between the tectons and pivots for charging. My initiual plan was to go Shift on the Wren108 and BG, but time will tell if i do - the tectons work pretty damned well. The wren88s were supposed to get pivots or shifts, but had a pair of tectons extra, so decided to just mount those instead of having to buy a new pair of pivots. The BMTs were intended for soft snow touring days - not slackcountry riding, with the wren108/BG bridging the gap to what originally was the resort only skis (wren88/kartels).

    TahoeJ - i'll give em a weigh, but they are not feather light by any stretch of the imagination. Performance wise they are pretty damned good though, so i care less about their weight than the performance after the foray into carbon skis has left me somewhat unimpressed as skis doubling up for inbounds + slackcountry needs.
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  7. #4057
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuse View Post
    Are you guys riding tectons in bounds??
    Quote Originally Posted by PNW_Skier206 View Post
    I’ve been noticing this trend. Why are people using tech bindings inbounds?
    Only for a bit at Revelstoke to try them out and because we were doing slackcountry laps. But generally speaking, no, my Tectons are for touring only. They do ride pretty nice but I have no interest in hammering any pin binding inbounds on a regular basis. I do intend to see how the Shifts hold up that way, however.

  8. #4058
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    i think i have 100+ days on vipecs and tectons in resorts (both for groomers, fresh inbounds and slackcountry uses), and for maximum flexibility (bring the skins and i can do whatever i like without changing skis or boots) i like em a lot. I have never experienced any issues with the pins or releases, so i guess being a lighter rider they work pretty well for my needs. The lower weight of the tectons together with a heavier ski makes for a killer set up, and 200gr more pr ski for shifts makes an already heavyish setup even heavier, potentially without adding much of an upgrade. I might switch to shifts next year for the tweener and resort skis, might not. Time will tell

    i would not use any tech binding other than vipecs or tectons inbounds - or at all - to be honest. Too much of a compromise. I consider the kingpin dead in the water from 2019 on - there is simply no good reason to get it instead of a tecton or a shift, none.

    Edit:
    weights:
    179 wren88/tectons: 2746gr / 2737gr
    179 wren108/tectons: 2961gr / 2970gr
    179 BG/tectons: 2968gr / 2940gr
    176 BMT94/ vipecs 1948gr
    176 bmt109/tecton 2293gr
    176 bmt122/vipecs 2473gr
    did not weigh the Kartels.
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    Stuff that's being used

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  10. #4060
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuse View Post
    TahoeJ said “pure touring: Tecton” so I assume he’s doing it right.

    I think Kid Kapow is a smaller guy, so he may be able to get away with a beefier touring binding inbounds.

    The performance of an alpine binding on the way down cannot be beat IMO. I skied beast 14s inbounds a few days, and prereleased multiple times.


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    I am a smaller guy (5'9) , and used to ride beast 14 inbounds a lot. And relatively hard. I thought they were great, until I swapped them for a CAST setup this year. Damn if that isn't a step up in dh performance. So I agree alpine bindings cannot be beat. The thought of a normal release is nice too.
    I see the use for a one ski travel quiver with tectons or beasts though.

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    Binding quiver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwat View Post
    Binding quiver.

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  13. #4063
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    Do you guys get your quivers ready now, in spring, for next season? With all the deals?

    Or do you just wait until fall?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuse View Post
    Do you guys get your quivers ready now, in spring, for next season? With all the deals?

    Or do you just wait until fall?

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    It’s never ready. Always tweaking.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PNW_Skier206 View Post
    It’s never ready. Always tweaking.


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    Same here. I usually do the bulk of the labor from now until June though. Then the last 20% and fine tuning in the fall.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuse View Post
    Same here. I usually do the bulk of the labor from now until June though. Then the last 20% and fine tuning in the fall.


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    Same. Most of the best deals are now but something always pops up right when the snow starts falling.


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  18. #4068
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    Any thoughts on the Volkl BMT 109?

    Very difficult to find reviews/comparison on this one... especially compared to skis like Head Kore 105 or Black Diamond Helio 105.

    Thanks if anyone tried those and can share :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PNW_Skier206 View Post
    It’s never ready. Always tweaking.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bPlaTyPuS View Post
    Any thoughts on the Volkl BMT 109?

    Very difficult to find reviews/comparison on this one... especially compared to skis like Head Kore 105 or Black Diamond Helio 105.

    Thanks if anyone tried those and can share :-)
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  21. #4071
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    A lot of people sure seem to like the Head Kore line... but I haven't been on any so can't comment. Blister has some pretty indepth reviews on the 105.

    Not many reviews on the BMT because they retail at like $1300...

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    I have the BMT 109s but can't compare them to the Heads or BDs.

    What exactly do you want to learn about them? Start there and search.

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    On that note, there's a shop in my area that has the BMT 109's in 186cm for 30% off... making them "only" $900 if anyone is in the market. They're definitely nice looking skis I'd be curious to try sometime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeJ View Post
    On that note, there's a shop in my area that has the BMT 109's in 186cm for 30% off... making them "only" $900 if anyone is looking. They're nice looking skis for sure.
    What a steal


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  25. #4075
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    $900 is still a little expansive I think. I can find them for ~750$ (in Switzerland) but availability is very low (only few pairs left).

    Still @750$, for a ski which didn't get any update since 2014-2015... I'm wondering if it still can compete with more recent skis. I checked the Blisters review on this ski but they did the review in 2015!

    If anyone can tell me if this ski still worth it's price against more recent skis (which are also less expansive btw), I would be glad!

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