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  1. #3926
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    Quote Originally Posted by Self Jupiter View Post
    Sweet quiv. Not that you’ll find many deals on them out there, but if you did the Parlor Cardinal 90 and 100 are killer skis with two camber profiles, 3 layup and stiffness options. They sell off their returns cheap. I scored a pair for $250. I love them, chargy but no metal, tons of rebound, damp but not metal damp. Go for the mellow reverse camber shape or the new camber w slight tip rocker, full camber skis pretty locked in.
    Hey thanks I will check them out. I definitely don't want reverse camber, but I will look them over.

  2. #3927
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    The Quiver Pic Rerun Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Climber Joe View Post
    Hey thanks I will check them out. I definitely don't want reverse camber, but I will look them over.
    They’re basically flat with super subtle early rise tips and tails. Long shot for sure to find at deal pricing but worth a demo if they come to your local hill. They seem to usually have returns, particularly in the stiffer layups

  3. #3928
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    Quote Originally Posted by Climber Joe View Post
    The Pro MTN would be that dream ski, but they have a stupid tip shape on it, so it is nice carving corduroy but is hooky and punchy elsewhere.
    I want something carvey, so I can learn to get my hip down to the ground on corduroy.

  4. #3929
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuse View Post
    I want something carvey, so I can learn to get my hip down to the ground on corduroy.
    What's your BSL and preferred length? I now have spare carving skis.

  5. #3930
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    Quote Originally Posted by Climber Joe View Post
    What's your BSL and preferred length? I now have spare carving skis.
    315mm

    184-188 true length, full camber, 18m radius.

    I have some shreditor 92s and monster 98s that I have to try before I make any new purchases.


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  6. #3931
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuse View Post
    315mm

    184-188 true length, full camber, 18m radius.

    I have some shreditor 92s and monster 98s that I have to try before I make any new purchases.


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    The Monster 98 is perfect for what you want to do. They carve like a dream.

  7. #3932
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    Quote Originally Posted by Island Bay View Post
    The Monster 98 is perfect for what you want to do. They carve like a dream.
    My 108s carve ice like nothing I have ever been on. I cant even imagine how good the 98s are on firm.


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  8. #3933
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuse View Post
    My 108s carve ice like nothing I have ever been on. I cant even imagine how good the 98s are on firm.


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    Surely you haven't been on these?

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  9. #3934
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    ^^^ That’s my next ski .

    I need another year of practice before I am good enough for the Rax


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  10. #3935
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuse View Post
    Dynastar Aurelian Ducroz pro model, I believe.

    I think it’s a variation on the LP105, or maybe it IS the LP105??

    Paging Leavenworth!
    It's an lp105 with a rainbow topsheet.

  11. #3936
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    Quote Originally Posted by Climber Joe View Post
    I whittled down the list to: Nordica Enforcer 93/100.
    After demoing both the 93/100's I was planning on buying one or the other until I demoed the Wren 98. Ended up with a 189 Wren 98 for my directional daily driver. The Enforcer's were definitely fun and were to be able to hold their own, but just didn't compare to how much better the Wren's handled the same terrain.

    By the way, glad to see my BG Veneer Tours getting around...!

  12. #3937
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    Quote Originally Posted by division.bell View Post
    After demoing both the 93/100's I was planning on buying one or the other until I demoed the Wren 98. Ended up with a 189 Wren 98 for my directional daily driver. The Enforcer's were definitely fun and were to be able to hold their own, but just didn't compare to how much better the Wren's handled the same terrain.

    By the way, glad to see my BG Veneer Tours getting around...!
    Wrens are a little more damp/stable, while being just as “fun”??


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  13. #3938
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuse View Post
    Wrens are a little more damp/stable, while being just as “fun”??
    More fun.

    Despite the Enforcer's much tighter radius at 18.5m in the 185 compared to the 189 Wren 98's radius of 24.8m, the Wren felt livelier and yes, more damp/stable. The Wren definitely has more tip and tail rocker than the Enforcer, which only added to the "fun" listed in the last statement.

    They just plain outperformed the Enforcers in every manner, in my heavily ON3P biased opinion.

  14. #3939
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeenaGeR View Post

    Right to left:
    AK JJ brand new, either these or the patrons are going to have to go
    193 Patrons, got them cheap
    192 TSTs, got them cheap as well
    189 One Life, I'm excited to see how the rocker will feel on these things
    184 ARV 96, fun everyday ski
    183 Odyssey, got them in a trade, stiff as 2x4s
    179 Pettitor, perfect east coast tree ski for me
    178 $25 GS skis, for that price I'll give race skis a go
    177 soul riders, my favorite ski last season, now early and late season duties
    174 Steeple 102, first touring ski
    172 Lib Tech Backwards, spring/backyard ski
    159 Icelantic Pilgrim, ski from two years ago, I guess I'm keeping them for sketchy ice days
    Boots
    Full Tilt First Chair 10, love these boots, stiff but not painful
    Full Tilt Drop Kick, got these for $20 at a ski swap, backups in case the others break or get wet

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    Nice quiver- those were my $20 full tilts I think!

  15. #3940
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    Mine:
    187 Protests - SollyFit Plates
    187 MVPs - SollyFit Plates
    184 Monster 98

    Ms Island Bay's:
    163 Protest - Inserted for Tour10s
    165 SFBs - inserted for Tour10s

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    192 Pro Rider

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    That's a killer quiver.

  17. #3942
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    Have a few more on the way but here's where things are at. Hiding in the background are the 202 Lotus 138 pures.

  18. #3943
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier View Post
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    Have a few more on the way but here's where things are at. Hiding in the background are the 202 Lotus 138 pures.
    Hmmm, I detect a slight bias...

  19. #3944
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    Quote Originally Posted by Island Bay View Post
    Hmmm, I detect a slight bias...
    That's certainly one way to put it, I'd describe it more as a dysfunction. Not one single Praxis or ON3P, gasp!

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    L138's in hiding like a dirty secret

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    Quote Originally Posted by kai_ski View Post
    L138's in hiding like a dirty secret
    Lurking for that 11/10 day where 138 underfoot and 2oh2 length is needed.

  22. #3947
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier View Post
    Lurking for that 11/10 day where 138 underfoot and 2oh2 length is needed.
    I didnt realize DPS still makes a 197cm Lotus 120!?! I kinda want, but too much overlap with Supergoats..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuse View Post
    I didnt realize DPS still makes a 197cm Lotus 120!?! I kinda want, but too much overlap with Supergoats..


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    May as well bump up to the 202 138. Neil has a set of 200cm Lotus 120 Pures, the 138 interests me more as a pure powder shape.

  24. #3949
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier View Post
    May as well bump up to the 202 138. Neil has a set of 200cm Lotus 120 Pures, the 138 interests me more as a pure powder shape.
    That’s pretty much where I am at. 202 138 or nothing..

    138 will overlap less with C&Ds. Now I just gotta find a pair.

    Do DPS measure short, or true to size? Are there different variations in the 138 core, like hybrid or pure or whatever? Any different flex patterns?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuse View Post
    That’s pretty much where I am at. 202 138 or nothing..

    138 will overlap less with C&Ds. Now I just gotta find a pair.

    Do DPS measure short, or true to size? Are there different variations in the 138 core, like hybrid or pure or whatever? Any different flex patterns?


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    I dunno, they look longer than my 192 Big Dumps.

    Flex/Construction, etc, yes, search jong. They made a few different batches of them. Mine are pures. I would suggest the same, more differentiation from your C&Ds. To me this is a perfect pow tool for the once every 3-5 year type days where it's waist deep, so I'm not concerned about chop and slop performance.

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