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08-31-2004, 03:03 PM #1
Thank you, dubya, may I have another?
So now our lusterless leader has come up with another way to screw us and pass the savings along to his corporate buddies. He is attempting to "deregulate" electrical power transmission and turn it over to an open market. Sounds good, doesn't it?
Well the catch is that all of the rural electric co-operatives have had the ability to purchase electricity from federal dams at the cost of generation since their inception. Under the proposed new rules, they (meaing us, the consumers) would be forced to pay what the market will bear. Energy traders (like Enron) can purchase and re-sell that power for a hefty profit, thus driving the market up.
Our local coop is forecasting a 20% to 40% annual rise in electricity costs over the next three years.
Vote Republican and pass the KY!
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08-31-2004, 03:06 PM #2
Let us not forget that one of the main al Qaeda demands is to remove US military bases from Saudi Arabia.
Remember that we will not yield an inch to terrorist demands!Merde De Glace On the Freak When Ski
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08-31-2004, 03:28 PM #3
Wow. Is this due the the great success of California's power deregulation?
I've concluded that DJSapp was never DJSapp, and Not DJSapp is also not DJSapp, so that means he's telling the truth now and he was lying before.
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08-31-2004, 03:31 PM #4
Yeah, power deregulation has been raging success up here in Alberta. Well, at least for the power companies profits.
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08-31-2004, 03:38 PM #5
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Get your own tube free at the voting booth this November. Or fly to New York for the convention to get your free sample.
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08-31-2004, 03:53 PM #6
Raise you right hand and repeat after me. "Free markets are the balm for all of you difficulties."
Again, and this time give me some feeling!Charlie, here comes the deuce. And when you speak of me, speak well.
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08-31-2004, 04:05 PM #7
That and rewriting the overtime laws. The AFL-CIO is not so thrilled.
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08-31-2004, 04:38 PM #8Registered User
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It sounds like the change in overtime laws could be very interesting. Here is a good article on it. It looks like manual labor and blue collar jobs will not be affected.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/08/22/ove....ap/index.html
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08-31-2004, 04:59 PM #9Originally posted by Buster Highmen
That and rewriting the overtime laws. The AFL-CIO is not so thrilled.
Why would they be? It might mean they would have to protect the workers they represent with this thing called "collective bargaining" in which they negotiate terms agreeable to the workers. That's the theory, I guess.
Oh and one of the central tenets of Rummy's philosophy as SecDef is realigning the Armed Forces was to take our un needed troops from Saudi Arabia. You may have also heard about another stage of the realignment involving Germany, Japan, and South Korea.
As far as the Power deregulation goes. The California government fucked it up by trying re-regulate who and where the utilities could purchase the power from. These supposedly profiteering trading and power companies got their asses absolutely handed to them. Enron, El Paso etc are swirling in the shitter right now."The trouble with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money" --Margaret Thatcher
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08-31-2004, 05:09 PM #10Originally posted by mr_gyptian
Why would they be? It might mean they would have to protect the workers they represent with this thing called "collective bargaining" in which they negotiate terms agreeable to the workers. That's the theory, I guess.
Oh and one of the central tenets of Rummy's philosophy as SecDef is realigning the Armed Forces was to take our un needed troops from Saudi Arabia. You may have also heard about another stage of the realignment involving Germany, Japan, and South Korea.
As far as the Power deregulation goes. The California government fucked it up by trying re-regulate who and where the utilities could purchase the power from. These supposedly profiteering trading and power companies got their asses absolutely handed to them. Enron, El Paso etc are swirling in the shitter right now.Merde De Glace On the Freak When Ski
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08-31-2004, 05:31 PM #11Originally posted by mr_gyptian
As far as the Power deregulation goes. spin spin spin
For over 60 years, our rural electric coop has purchased electricity from BPA at the cost of production. It sells that electricity to the members (us) at the cost of delivery.
"The Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) wants to create Grid West, a regional transmission organization. The new organization would not produce energy but would market it."- (local rea)
Under this new proposal, our local REA would be forced to bid on electricity from Grid West (a new government beauracracy) to buy the power. Energy traders and for-profit utilities would also get the right to outbid the REA's, and take power away from them, diverting it to, say, California. At a profit.
"Sixty years the federal government agreed to give first dibs on the power produced by the federally built dams to non-profit public utilities. The cost of the power is based on the how much it costs to produce it." - (local rea)
Spin it all you want, Mr. G. The only ones who will profit are the Ken Lays and the George Bushs. This proposal is being pushed hard by for-proit energy companies and energy traders. Guess what - they're not doing it so they'll lose money.
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08-31-2004, 06:28 PM #12Originally posted by PlayHarder
Yeah, power deregulation has been raging success up here in Alberta. Well, at least for the power companies profits.
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08-31-2004, 06:32 PM #13
Buster, you fucking hump, what do you think organized labor does? Negotiate with companies to uphold labor laws? No, they negotiate better terms on behalf of the workers(in theory anyway).
If not, enlighten me.
So, if the reason we have troops in Saudi Arabia was to protect Saudi Arabia from an attack by Iraq. The threat of Iraq and Saddam has since been neutralized. You would still support keeping 5000 troops there to "prove a point"?
FDR also promised that he wouldn't send any "American boys to fight a war". Are to hold him to that? He also tried to pack the supreme court to forward his agenda. Are we to honor that? He also enacted legislation putting the retirement age at 65 when average life expectancy was around 57. Average life expectancy is around 80 now, think we could change it?
Spin my ass. Enron and El Paso aren't in the grave yard? Ask Nixon about price fixing(if you really want to have fun, ask Rummy about his part in it)."The trouble with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money" --Margaret Thatcher
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08-31-2004, 06:33 PM #14Originally posted by CUBUCK
It sounds like the change in overtime laws could be very interesting. Here is a good article on it. It looks like manual labor and blue collar jobs will not be affected.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/08/22/ove....ap/index.html
Okay, sorry. I'm over it for now.
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08-31-2004, 06:33 PM #15
Oh yeah, and thats on top of my $300 gas bill in february.
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