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Thread: Binding Mount Paper Templates
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08-07-2018, 11:33 PM #1251
Binding Mount Paper Templates
I used the image meter-man posted, traced the awesome design elements of Knut, to create a vector PDF version of the Shift MNC template, for multiple boot sole lengths.
Salomon/Atomic SHIFT MNC 13 Binding Template
Prints to scale if you set it up to print at 100% and your printer can do that.
Edit: Previous to 11/2/2018, the template was unverified, and the dimensions were wrong.
Verified at 295mm and 334mm BSL. To my eye, it's dead nuts on, but of course, you ought to do a test mount first, for peace of mind.
Edit: Small edits on 11/6/2018 to make the center line and BSL 2.5mm more accurate.
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The location of the toe button in relation to the center set of toe screws on the factory jig is 1.5mm back (64.5mm) from my empirically derived spec (66mm). I made the template match the jig. My bindings are mounted to the empirical spec.
Edit: 10/31/2019 changed a couple of the design elements (color and line weights) to distinguish from Knut's stuff. All dimensions are unchanged.Last edited by lucknau; 10-31-2019 at 11:48 PM.
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08-29-2018, 10:16 AM #1252
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08-29-2018, 10:58 AM #1253
I have my CAD tool set to inches.
That .137" dimension is a touch more than 3mm (3mm = .118").
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08-29-2018, 11:05 AM #1254
That makes more sense, thanks.
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09-26-2018, 02:28 AM #1255
Binding Mount Paper Templates
2016-2017 and later Marker Griffon/Squire DEMO have a different mount pattern than previous models.
Couldn't find a template here that matches. Does anyone have a 2017 jig they can take a good photo of? I'm making a template but don't have a point of reference for the boot center.Last edited by lucknau; 09-26-2018 at 04:46 AM.
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09-26-2018, 04:42 AM #1256but not a marker fanboy
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What has changed? As I understand it, the 2017 and later models have a different AFD to fit touring boots as well, but did not know the mounting pattern changed with it. Have not had a newer pair of Markers to mount to confirm, but the jig numbers haven't changed from pre- and post- 2017 model year:
2013/2014:
3.1 INSTALLATION TOOLS FOR MARKER BINDINGS:
W001G1T (61 - 117 mm) W012J1T (95 - 150 mm)
Jester 18 Pro, Jester 16, Griffon 13, Squire 11, Jester & Griffon &
Squire Schizo, Jester & Griffon & Squire Demo, Lord SP, Comp 20.0
EPS, Comp 16.0 EPS, Race Xcell 16.0, Race Xcell 12.0, 10.0 Free,
Comp 10.0.
2016/2017:
W001G1T (61 - 117mm) W012J1T (95 - 150 mm)
Jester 18 Pro, Jester 16 ID, Griffon 13 ID, Squire 11, Schizo 14, Schizo 11,
Jester Demo, Lord SP, Race Xcell 18.0, Race Xcell 16.0, Race Xcell 12.0,
Race 10 TCX, Race 10, Race Junior 8, M 11.0 TC EPS, 10.0 EPS
2017/2018:
W001G1T (61 - 117 mm) W012J1T (95 - 150 mm)
Jester 18 Pro, Jester 16 ID, Griffon 13 ID, Griffon 13, Squire 11 ID,
Jester Demo, Race Xcell 24.0, 18.0, 16.0, Race Xcell 12.0, 12.0 TPX,
11.0 TP, 10.0 TP, 10.0, Free Ten, Free 8, Freeski TP, Race 10 TCX, Race
10, Race Junior 8
If the pattern is in fact different, it looks like Marker is using the same jig and hasn't noted between old and new versions.
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09-26-2018, 04:45 AM #1257but not a marker fanboy
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Here's a stock photo of the Jester jig from 2018. Doesn't show a second set of holes on toe or heel to differentiate between old and new patterns:
I'd be surprised that if the pattern did change, they would still list the same jig number from before and after the change. But could certainly be wrong and don't have bindings in hand to check for myself.
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09-26-2018, 04:45 AM #1258
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09-26-2018, 04:50 AM #1259
Anyway, in the notes you posted above, griffon/Squire demo is missing. Jester is unchanged. Demo uses W009P1T or W004Q1T
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09-26-2018, 04:50 AM #1260but not a marker fanboy
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09-26-2018, 04:52 AM #1261
Binding Mount Paper Templates
Made a template for post 2017 Griffon/Squire Demo:
Marker Griffon and Squire Demo c.2017 template
Tested on several boot sizes ranging from 260mm to 337mm. Boot center for all tests landed with an accuracy of 2mm on either side of the reference mark.Last edited by lucknau; 09-27-2018 at 11:34 PM.
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09-28-2018, 09:36 AM #1262
Re: 2017+ Marker Griffon/Squire demo template
Was able to overlay the image of the jig in the tech manual onto my template mockup, stretch it to fit the hole spacing fore and aft, and thus identify and mark the boot center. Tested last night. Modified my post just above, to state that the template has been verified, and am posting this as a bump, in case anyone other than me needed this template right now.
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10-03-2018, 02:43 AM #1263
So I've been a jong and had a search but found not a lot, even Markers tech manual didn't really say. I picked up some second had skis with 2014 ish Squire Demo's on them. They are from a rental shop, does anyone have any idea what BSL they drill the demos at?
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10-03-2018, 04:32 AM #1264but not a marker fanboy
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I think 305, but you could print the paper template from the first page of this thread and place it over your existing holes to compare with the center line and see what BSL they were mounted at
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10-03-2018, 08:34 AM #1265
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10-03-2018, 03:57 PM #1266
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10-03-2018, 04:01 PM #1267
Binding Mount Paper Templates
It's 315mm. I just mounted some griffins last week at 315 and the footprint is the same. I think the template says as much. The old one, anyway (9 holes), because it works for both the demo and regular bindings. For the new (8 hole) demos, I just made a template (posted a few posts above) and there's just a single line for that one.
Edit: here's a screenshot of the notes from the 9-hole demo:
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10-04-2018, 12:48 AM #1268
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10-04-2018, 11:40 AM #1269one-track mind
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Before remounting, consider "wasting" 1 ski day on the current demo bindings to test various mount positions, just to learn where your favorite position is on that ski model. After that, you'll know in advance how satisfied you'll be if you remount by re-using the current holes.
Your 315 BSL boot is precisely perfect for the Marker demo bindings, because your boot can use every last mm of adjustment of both the demo toe and demo heel, for max range fore/aft (assuming that those demo bindings were drilled standard).
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10-05-2018, 02:16 AM #1270
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10-11-2018, 09:53 AM #1271Registered User
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Looking for template for Tyrolia Attack2 11 bindings
Can anyone help me out and point me to a good template for tyrolia attack2 11 bindings? I need to mount a pair for my daughter, but haven't been able to find any template that is specific for those. Hoping not to have to modify one of the tyrolia templates that I have found so far. Thanks.
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10-11-2018, 09:58 AM #1272Registered User
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10-11-2018, 10:46 AM #1273but not a marker fanboy
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doebedoe is correct, it's the same pattern as the first gen Attacks, Peak/Mojo, etc. Just use the tyrolia template in this thread. Make especially sure that you do a test mount with the Tyrolia template, because your boot center will likely be off from where the mount is intended to be. See my post about that on page 44, #1095.
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10-11-2018, 11:32 AM #1274
I will third that emotion. Same template.
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10-12-2018, 04:40 PM #1275Registered User
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