View Poll Results: What to Do W/ The BCS?
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Scarp It and Go Back to Old System
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Scrap It and Go to 8 Team Playoff
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Scrap It and Go To 16 Team Playoff
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Don't Give a Fuck
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Brett Loves His Dildo
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Thread: The BCS Sucks
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12-01-2008, 07:57 PM #26
saw this 12 team playoff posted on another forum and liked it (other than the bama win assumption)
12 team playoff, 6 bcs conf champs get auto-bid, non bcs schools (including ND) get aut-bid if top ten. Remaining slots filled up by top BCS ranked teams. Seeded based on BCS rank.
every (major) conference guaranteed at least 1 entrant.
All non BCS schools actually have a chance for the title, instead of a consolation BCS game
no one with a legit reason gets left out.
Auto bids (assuming higher ranked team wins champ)
Big East: #13 Cincinnati
Big Televen: # 8 Penn St.
Big 12: #2 OU
SEC: #1 Bama
ACC: #17 Boston College
Pac 10: #5 USC
Then you give #6 Utah and #9 Boise St. bids (they're top ten), now you only have 4 more at large spots:
#3 tu
#4 Florida (they wouldn't drop hardly)
# 7 Tech
#10 tOSU
Seeds:
1 Bama
2 OU
3 tu
4 USC (assumes Florida drops to 5 after bama loss)
5 Florida
6 Utah
7 Tech
8 Penn St.
9 Boise St.
10 tOSU
11 Cincy
12 Boston College
Bama, OU, tu, and USC would get byes
bracket:
Bama
Penn St./Boise St. winner
USC
Florida/BC winner
OU
tech/tOSU winner
tu
Utah/Cincy winner
Don't tell me that so and so doesn't deserve to be in it. Tell me what team would get screwed over, or why this fails.
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12-01-2008, 08:55 PM #27
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12-01-2008, 09:36 PM #28
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12-01-2008, 10:25 PM #29Funky But Chic
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12-01-2008, 10:34 PM #30
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12-01-2008, 11:09 PM #31
Because they're Notre Dame. Duh.
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12-01-2008, 11:14 PM #32
Yes, other than money and prestige? He went to a Catholic high school in the midwest and was an assistant at ND for five years. But he's under contract with the Gators through 2012 and had ample opportunity to take the ND job when he signed his current contract with Florida, so I doubt it'll happen.
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12-01-2008, 11:26 PM #33
The problem with the BCS is that it isn't about football, it's about money. That's why Ohio State gets the at-large this year at #10 instead of Boise State at #9. The Humanitarian Bowl (played in Boise) is trying to pair up Boise State and Ball State (The battle of the undefeated BSUs). Why? Because if Boise State goes to another bowl, they only sell 22,000 tickets instead of 30,000 if BSU plays at home. It's all about money, BCS or non-BCS.
FWIW - BSU vs. Penn St would be an interesting match-up.Shut your eyes and think of somewhere. Somewhere cold and caked with snow.
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12-02-2008, 08:12 AM #34
Ccard- I don't see how that formula wouldn't work. If it's all about money - well there's plenty of money in that playoff. PLUS how much more money is there out there to be made off of the cinderella upset...imagine Boise state beating juggernaut Florida for the title...that would be incredible.
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12-02-2008, 08:57 AM #35
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12-02-2008, 09:55 AM #36
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12-02-2008, 11:00 AM #37
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12-02-2008, 01:05 PM #38
2004. Go look it up. 3 undeafeated MAJOR CONFERENCE teams at the end of the season - USC, OK, Auburn. USC defeats OK, Auburn wins Sugar bowl and remians undefeated. USC get championship. That is not a clear champion with 2 big conference schools undefeated at the end of the season.
the thing that hurt auburn here is the pre-season rankings. the pre-season rankings weigh too much of a factor in the BCS forumla; and what most of th etime they are retarded rankings anyway.
for example Ohio State is always ranked high in the pre-season polls, and then they play a team outside of the Big 10 and get emabarassed on national TV.1 WIDE Ski
'and don't worry its clean, because I never get laid anyways.' - leroy jenkins
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12-02-2008, 01:51 PM #39
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12-02-2008, 02:40 PM #40A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
Science-fiction author Robert Heinlein
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12-02-2008, 02:52 PM #41
as opposed to playing in conference games against Washington, Washington State, Standford, UCLA, and Oregon State? And OOC games against Notre Dame and Colorado State...Yeah, tough line up there. With that schudule is there a ranking higher then #1 you can give a team pre-season?
1 WIDE Ski
'and don't worry its clean, because I never get laid anyways.' - leroy jenkins
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12-02-2008, 03:02 PM #42
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12-02-2008, 03:08 PM #43
No team can control their conference schedule. Why do you bring up conference games? I didn't mention Old Miss, Vanderbilt or other crappy SEC squads that Auburn may have played that year.
I'm strictly talking OOC.
Teams that schedule FCS schools, or very low tier FBS, can forfeit any claim to a championship when there are other contenders who have a history of scheduling worthy competition.
And suppose that Auburn had played SC in the 05 BCS game instead of Oklahoma. Exactly what would they have done differently in that game to keep from losing like they did to the Trojans in 02 and 03?Daniel Ortega eats here.
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12-02-2008, 03:10 PM #44
[Lumpy man-love]And in 04, Washington St. was coming off of consecutive 10-win seasons and a BCS appearance![/Lumpy man-love]
Daniel Ortega eats here.
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12-02-2008, 03:33 PM #45
I don't know what would have happened in an USC-Auburn game. Gonehuckin said if anyone can show me what year the BCS didn't clearly choose a national champion, I'd like to see it; so i showed an example.
The SEC conference games are much tougher then PAC-10 games. I know you can't control your conference, but i was raising the issue of 'strength-of-conference' (and in that conference you can only mention Ole' Miss and Vandy as crap teams, unlike the Pac-10 which is almost crap up and down the list.) So then just refer to my OCC games USC played. Weak sauce; no doubt about it.
I live in CA but grew up in Miami, went to Florida, am engaged to a Trojan (who grew up in Kansas so I watch the big-12 games every week), have 2 best buddies (Michigan and Oregon), grew up watching Big-10 football (mom and dad went to Illinois), and I watch Pac-10 games every week (location.) So I have a pretty good understanding of the conferences. I love college football.
One interesting solution I heard about the BCS would be to do a re-ranking after the BCS bowl games, and let #1 play #2 for the championship. it would kind of use the BCS bowls as a playoff, but keep the tradition of the bowl games (not the sponsors, but the actual bowl games) alive. I like this option.1 WIDE Ski
'and don't worry its clean, because I never get laid anyways.' - leroy jenkins
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12-02-2008, 03:33 PM #46
16 is best because then you get every conference champ. + some at large teams. sure some huge potential underdogs but the 15/2 and 16/1 games in hoops are still interesting, and even sometimes turn into great games. while there will probably be some bitching about which at larges don't make it, you have really no grounds to complain about being left out of a tourney if you don't win your conference.
i'm really annoyed at the idea of texas playing for the championship
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12-02-2008, 03:34 PM #47
So you're saying that a team that goes undefeated after playing 5-6 top 25 teams in conference and 4 creampuffs OOC has no claim to a championship, while a team that plays in a crappy conference but schedules and beats 1-2 top 25 teams OOC does?
Strength of schedule is strength of schedule, it doesn't matter whether teams can control the games or not.
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12-02-2008, 03:41 PM #48
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12-02-2008, 04:22 PM #49
Nice counter, however, most SEC schools schedule like Auburn. It's easy for a team to be ranked when they schedule 3-4 guaranteed wins and then play at least a couple of weak teams in-conference. There's 4-6, or 5-7 wins right there. Split the rest of your games and you're ranked. I like to look at what a given team can control, it's OOC line up.
I just happen to have more respect for programs that don't schedule the likes of Coast Guard Academy, Central Carolina St. and Sisters of Mercy U.Daniel Ortega eats here.
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12-02-2008, 04:26 PM #50
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