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11-29-2021, 10:01 AM #1926Registered User
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Sidas footbeds as second version. First version was fully posted TVS were nuked for the wrong reasons.
On shell size, solid "maybe"
I agree totally about cramping due to stabilization. In my case, stabilization plus direction of pressure.
I skied a 26.5 for a long time as a race fit, but that also hurt. The goal of reducing movement was achieved through pain and numbness.
The amount of movement below the ankle is nearly invisible to anyone except me! But it's there.
In the cuff, I have a 1/4" of slop. That's visible, and it works down the boot.
My concern is there could be a number of variables in play, and I somewhat addressed forward lean already in these shells.
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11-29-2021, 10:09 AM #1927Registered User
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what if I told you my toes are definitely clawing?
Or more like my met pad is flexing to grip?
The clawing is probably 50% to support pronation and staying forward. 50% driving the ski over "stuff". The more choppy stuff I ski though the more I max out the pain threshold.
I just want to add to this the forward stance. Neutral to the boot, I feel subtly like I'm jumping - pushing on the met pad and flexing my glutes.
Sounds like shell side is an issue, but perhaps there more?
Thank you very much, by the way.
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11-29-2021, 10:28 AM #1928Registered User
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Thanks mntlion,
Liners are definitely old and I assume packed out. But my feet feel really good in them, (better than when liners were not packed out) and my toes rarely get too cold even out here. I suppose it cant hurt to get some new liners to compare though. And I'll look into the foam padding.
(looking forward to getting back to Louise this season. Made some very gingerly turns on wiwaxy the week after opening before the dumpage. Felt great to get back out)
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11-29-2021, 08:27 PM #1929
I just skied a brand new boot out of the box with no molding or punching and had zero pain over two full days of skiing including standing around at the bar. I have literally never experienced such an easy and painless boot fit in my entire life of skiing. WTF is wrong with my boots!!
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11-29-2021, 09:14 PM #1930
I imagine in 8 more days they’ll be way too big….
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11-29-2021, 10:02 PM #1931
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12-02-2021, 12:51 PM #1932
Newb orthotics question for the group. Just got some custom footbeds which feel good on my foot when laid flat on the ground. In my Langes with pretty tight fit, the arch in the footbeds feels a little high and definitely uncomfortable first time hanging out in them. Foot just need time to adjust to them? Been trying to wear them in the house a couple hours here/there but haven't had custom footbeds in years.
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12-02-2021, 04:23 PM #1933
try them sking and see?
If it feels too much, or puts you way off balance, get it lowered? (heating and pushing down, or grinding material away?)
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12-03-2021, 04:04 PM #1934
Having trouble getting some custom footbeds to seat all the way back in a heel pocket after I slide the liner (intuition pro tongue) into my boot ( Lange RS 130). Haven't baked the liners yet. Suggestions?
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12-03-2021, 04:44 PM #1935
are the footbeds new? did you use them in other boots (with good results) before?
if you have used them heat the liners, or take the liner out of the shell, 2 sided tape on the heel of the footbed, and push it into place.
If you have NOT used the footbeds before, put them in the shell only, and idea is 1-2 mm gap between the footbed and shell
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12-03-2021, 05:18 PM #1936Registered User
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did you get the plate taken out yet ?
back in the day I had a plate put in for a broken Tib/ fib boot top fracture in feb and they took it out in december of that same year, the reason the pro's put in a plate instead of a rod was becuz there were already 3 screws in the ankle from a previous injury so they were afraid of hitting them
when they took out the plate i got them to take out 2 of the 3 screws in the ankle but could not get the last screw out
Doc will say its not really necessary to take out the HW but IME its a good idea to get all or as much of the HW out that you can and it doesnt cost you $ in the canuckian HC system, it might be hard to get a surgery booked with covid as it is so just tell them it hurts
the recovery from the surgery to get HW removed is no where near as nasty as when you broke the leg cuz the bone is fixed so its just tissue repair,Last edited by XXX-er; 12-03-2021 at 05:49 PM.
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12-03-2021, 05:18 PM #1937
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12-03-2021, 05:56 PM #1938
Can somebody compare how the K2 Mindbender boot fits compared to a Lange RX ?
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12-03-2021, 06:17 PM #1939
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12-04-2021, 01:08 AM #1940Registered User
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MB a bit more toe wiggle room and heel grip for me
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12-04-2021, 01:53 AM #1941
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12-04-2021, 01:50 PM #1942
Good to hear. Is the heel similar to RX or skinny like a Dalbello Krypton?
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12-05-2021, 10:46 AM #1943
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12-12-2021, 08:40 PM #1944Registered User
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Forweard lean question for the boot gurus here,
Into a lange xt3 this season and the shell fits me great. Primary use is patrolling/snow safety so long days with a heavy pack. I feel like I keep getting pushed backseat in the lange compared to boots of old (Vulcan, Lupo, Hawx, older langes). I want to increase forward lean a bit but use zipfit liners so can't use the lange spoiler. What is an alternative way to increase forward lean and maybe increase ramp angle a bit? Cut velcro off lange spoiler and glue it to shell?
I know a bootfitter could do it better but I like to tinker with my gear and would like to learn to do more on my own boots.
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12-12-2021, 08:55 PM #1945
use a lange liner F lean shim and 2 sided tape it in place see what that feels like
increase ramp angle? add a folded up trail map on the boot board.
FYI: increaseing either/both of this CAN have the opposite effect and push you forward so you bend at angle.kneee more and CAN make it feel worse.
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12-12-2021, 09:22 PM #1946
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12-12-2021, 10:07 PM #1947
There is nothing preventing you from contact cementing a strip of Velcro (usually the fuzz side, most spoilers have the hook side) on the back of the Zipfits and sticking any spoiler you want on to try it out. If you have a Gara or World Cup, put one strip above and one strip below the power strap. If you don't like the result, you can peel it off and try a different spoiler.
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12-15-2021, 04:53 PM #1948Registered User
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the answer to "WTF is wrong with my boots?"
OK folks, need some help. I've gotten less than awesome advice on boots before from local shops and thought I'd check in here.
At the end of every touring day, I have excruciating pain on the outside (lateral edge) of my right foot, posterior to my 5th metatarsal. I'm pretty sure this is called a 6th toe, but rather than a single spot, I have a massive pad of tissue hanging way out there, going almost all the way back to my 5th tarsal/met joint just in front of my ankle. I've had my boots punched several times and while it's gotten better, it's still not great. Yesterday after a simple 4 hour/2500ft tour, I was barely able to put weight on my foot. During a tour, the outside of my foot often goes numb and i have to wiggle my toes to get feeling back. I am a pronator, this foot it mostly flat, so I know the tendency of the foot will be to splay outward laterally, which *should* be solved by the insole.
Boots are Hawx XTD 120 27.5 with Intuition Pro Tour 27. I also have some Tour Wraps in 28 I'm going to try out for a different issue.
Footbeds are Sidas customs, molded unweighted, posted with cork. My foot hangs off the edge of these because the shop I bought them from trimmed them to match the sole of my liner, not my foot.
Is this another simple punch? Should I try new footbeds that actually match the outline of my foot? Any help is greatly appreciated.
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12-15-2021, 05:17 PM #1949
the answer to "WTF is wrong with my boots?"
I had a similar problem that I resolved with a heel wedge placed on the medial aspect. Basically it prevented pronation which pushed my lateral metatarsal outward.
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12-20-2021, 08:11 AM #1950
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