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08-12-2020, 01:04 PM #3101Registered User
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Buy them both.
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08-12-2020, 01:49 PM #3102Registered User
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Buy both? Keep the Polaris and I’ll take the Ski-Doo off your hands.
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08-12-2020, 01:54 PM #3103Registered User
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What's your intended use? If it is primarily sled access touring or two-up lapping, get the Doo. If you think you may want to become a bonafide sled neck, get the Polaris. The Doo is easier to ride, especially for beginners, and it has a longer useful life. Poo is the sidehilling champ. And get the 850. The 800 will likely be phased out soon and will have very poor resale value when that happens.
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08-12-2020, 02:36 PM #3104Registered User
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Sorry if I was confusing no doo in the mix
Choices are:
2020 RMK 850 new
2020 RMK 850 Demo for approx $2500 less and with a few bells and whistles (PIDD dash for example) and extended warranty
2020 RMK 800 new for same price as the demo - but zero miles
All Axys chassis with 163 track - but there is a Kaos 155 available as well but I am thinking the 163 will have me digging less when I inevitably run out of skill and momentum
Plan is to use it for access but that will probably turn into just taking my skis for sled rides which will likely turn into leaving my skis at home.
I will probably never be a full fledged sled neck - but for professional reasons I am going with Polaris (dealer relationship as much as anything) so no Doo for me at this time..
Between the 800 and 850 - will a beginner really feel the difference? For reference my other sled is a 1994 Tundra II LT with 277cc's pushing out like 25hp!
Anyone tried the PIDD dash? - having a gps track to follow out may be useful given our changeable conditions up here. Having blue tooth connectivity makes me kind of hate it.
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08-12-2020, 02:43 PM #3105
Get that 850 and you'll turn into a sledneck.
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08-12-2020, 05:38 PM #3106Registered User
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Get the 850 with the 165, you’ll still be digging but once the snow gets deep you’ll be happy for the extra length.
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08-12-2020, 07:14 PM #3107Registered User
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08-12-2020, 10:07 PM #3109Registered User
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Man you sure got me there. Yer special.
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08-15-2020, 04:52 AM #3110Registered User
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Between the 800 and the 850, they do feel different but they're each perfectly capable. The 800 is at the end of it's product lifecycle and all the kinks are pretty much worked out. The 850 is still new, and there were still a few very minor issues in 2020. Resale value might be better on the 850, but don't ever make decisions based on resale value when it comes to sleds - they all resell for way less than you;d expect.
PIDD isn't really worth any added cost. Finicky, glitchy, and do you still need a monthly paid subscription to keep them working?
Personally, I'd go for the 155" Khaos. If you find you really "need" the longer track you can put it on the shorter chassis - it's what all the cool kids are doing now. Bonus points if the Khaos has the Velocity shocks.
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08-15-2020, 08:31 AM #3111Registered User
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Thanks for that, I really appreciate it.
In the end I went with this:
850 pro with 163 track upgrades to the shocks and bumper. No PIDD
Not huge fan of the colour but it was what he had left for 2020 so he could give me the deal.
Could get a wrap I suppose - but I have a cfr rack coming that will eat up the rest of the budget.
Now to learn how to ride it.
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08-15-2020, 09:03 AM #3112
has anyone here tried the Skandic SWT since they changed to the latest chassis? I'm wondering if there is really any noticeable difference in how it handles vs the old chassis.
any love for the ulitily sleds around here?
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08-16-2020, 07:05 AM #3113Registered User
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08-20-2020, 07:54 PM #3114
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08-20-2020, 07:56 PM #3115
A ski area worker special.
Just don't get stuck in deep powder with it. Unless you have 6 people to dig it out.
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08-20-2020, 08:02 PM #3116
Buddy has a vector, its heavy as fuck but starts every time, and he does near no maintenance to it. The biggest issue is that the rear exhaust ports have melted a pair of skis, one expensive camera case, and a pack that got too close. Took him a bit to get his homemade rack figured out to prevent such future occurrences. He also purchased a little collapsible jack to help with lifting the rear end out of any holes he ends up in - had my doubts with that, but it works like a charm.
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08-20-2020, 08:53 PM #3117
Looking at a first sled for some ski powder laps. Theres a 2009 M8 for $2800 with 2200 miles amd a few 2014-2015 Summits around $5k one with under 1k miles. Is it worth spending another $2000-2500 on a newer Summit?
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08-20-2020, 09:39 PM #3118Registered User
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08-21-2020, 02:59 AM #3121Registered User
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Once you get it, life gets a lot easier... I say that but I still screwed it up all winter long
Oh and buy the nicest sled you can afford, you will be happy you did.
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08-21-2020, 08:26 AM #3123Registered User
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+1
Unless you're one of those people who can buy a 15-year-old, $1500 SUV with 200k on it, put bare minimum money into it, and somehow get it to run for another ten years and 100k, buy as much reliability as you can afford. I'm no sled expert, but the sled necks I talked to while troubleshooting mine seemed to think that it was completely normal for a sled to make a KTM look like the pinnacle of reliability and minimum maintenance.
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08-21-2020, 10:31 AM #3124Registered User
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Thanks for the advices. Seems harder to do in practice - but I have been watching instructional videos by a Mr. Enticer on the interwebs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzOUgwsQ_hM&t=225s
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08-21-2020, 11:22 AM #3125
Thanks for the feedback. Obvious wisdom is to target a lower milage sled, but should I be afraid of ones that are around 2k miles in both a Summit and a RMK? Seeing a lot of RMKs that have rebuilt engines and that gives me pause.
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