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  1. #3101
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    Buy them both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LHutz Esq View Post
    HEEELLLLLP!!!!

    I have a Legal Dentist dilemma!

    I can get a very, very good deal on a dealer stock 2020 rmk800 or for a measly $2,500 CAD socialist pesos (about $1900 Freedom Units) a similar 2020 850.

    Or for about the same as the 800 I can get a demo (200miles) 850 with a few more wiz bangs like the PIDD Gauge.

    I am leaning to the base model 850 - don't think I need GPS on the dash and I worry about how those demo riders would treat the "rented mule". - Although it comes with an extra year warranty.

    I know I don't have the talent to need the extra 50cc's - but I am trying to justify it on resale value.

    The collective's thoughts would be much appreciated.
    Buy both? Keep the Polaris and I’ll take the Ski-Doo off your hands.


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  3. #3103
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    What's your intended use? If it is primarily sled access touring or two-up lapping, get the Doo. If you think you may want to become a bonafide sled neck, get the Polaris. The Doo is easier to ride, especially for beginners, and it has a longer useful life. Poo is the sidehilling champ. And get the 850. The 800 will likely be phased out soon and will have very poor resale value when that happens.

  4. #3104
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    Sorry if I was confusing no doo in the mix

    Choices are:
    2020 RMK 850 new
    2020 RMK 850 Demo for approx $2500 less and with a few bells and whistles (PIDD dash for example) and extended warranty
    2020 RMK 800 new for same price as the demo - but zero miles

    All Axys chassis with 163 track - but there is a Kaos 155 available as well but I am thinking the 163 will have me digging less when I inevitably run out of skill and momentum

    Plan is to use it for access but that will probably turn into just taking my skis for sled rides which will likely turn into leaving my skis at home.

    I will probably never be a full fledged sled neck - but for professional reasons I am going with Polaris (dealer relationship as much as anything) so no Doo for me at this time..

    Between the 800 and 850 - will a beginner really feel the difference? For reference my other sled is a 1994 Tundra II LT with 277cc's pushing out like 25hp!

    Anyone tried the PIDD dash? - having a gps track to follow out may be useful given our changeable conditions up here. Having blue tooth connectivity makes me kind of hate it.

  5. #3105
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    Get that 850 and you'll turn into a sledneck.

  6. #3106
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    Get the 850 with the 165, you’ll still be digging but once the snow gets deep you’ll be happy for the extra length.


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    Maggot snowmobile thread

    Quote Originally Posted by skibrd View Post
    Buy both?


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    At the originally posted prices, for sure. Probably a typo.

  8. #3108
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    Quote Originally Posted by LHutz Esq View Post
    HEEELLLLLP!!!!

    I have a Legal Dentist dilemma!

    I can get a very, very good deal on a dealer stock 2020 rmk800 or for a measly $2,500 CAD socialist pesos (about $1900 Freedom Units) more a similar 2020 rmk850.

    Or for about the same as the 800 I can get a demo (200miles) rmk850 with a few more wiz bangs like the PIDD Gauge.

    I am leaning to the base model rmk850 - don't think I need GPS on the dash and I worry about how those demo riders would treat the "rented mule". - Although it comes with an extra year warranty.

    I know I don't have the talent to need the extra 50cc's - but I am trying to justify it on resale value.

    The collective's thoughts would be much appreciated.
    Your an overcharging American douche dentist with a self-esteem problem that is super cheap. Stop being so petty by seeking out advice on TGR on how to b even cheaper. Buck up, shut up and stop asking dumb questions...

  9. #3109
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    Man you sure got me there. Yer special.


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  10. #3110
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    Quote Originally Posted by LHutz Esq View Post
    Sorry if I was confusing no doo in the mix

    Choices are:
    2020 RMK 850 new
    2020 RMK 850 Demo for approx $2500 less and with a few bells and whistles (PIDD dash for example) and extended warranty
    2020 RMK 800 new for same price as the demo - but zero miles

    All Axys chassis with 163 track - but there is a Kaos 155 available as well but I am thinking the 163 will have me digging less when I inevitably run out of skill and momentum

    Between the 800 and 850 - will a beginner really feel the difference?

    Anyone tried the PIDD dash? - having a gps track to follow out may be useful given our changeable conditions up here. Having blue tooth connectivity makes me kind of hate it.
    Between the 800 and the 850, they do feel different but they're each perfectly capable. The 800 is at the end of it's product lifecycle and all the kinks are pretty much worked out. The 850 is still new, and there were still a few very minor issues in 2020. Resale value might be better on the 850, but don't ever make decisions based on resale value when it comes to sleds - they all resell for way less than you;d expect.

    PIDD isn't really worth any added cost. Finicky, glitchy, and do you still need a monthly paid subscription to keep them working?

    Personally, I'd go for the 155" Khaos. If you find you really "need" the longer track you can put it on the shorter chassis - it's what all the cool kids are doing now. Bonus points if the Khaos has the Velocity shocks.

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    Thanks for that, I really appreciate it.

    In the end I went with this:

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    850 pro with 163 track upgrades to the shocks and bumper. No PIDD

    Not huge fan of the colour but it was what he had left for 2020 so he could give me the deal.

    Could get a wrap I suppose - but I have a cfr rack coming that will eat up the rest of the budget.

    Now to learn how to ride it.

  12. #3112
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    has anyone here tried the Skandic SWT since they changed to the latest chassis? I'm wondering if there is really any noticeable difference in how it handles vs the old chassis.



    any love for the ulitily sleds around here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by m2711c View Post
    has anyone here tried the Skandic SWT since they changed to the latest chassis? I'm wondering if there is really any noticeable difference in how it handles vs the old chassis.



    any love for the ulitily sleds around here?
    I’m still using my 2008 Phazer MTX, but several of my ski touring partners are using recently purchased Tundra LTs, and they seem pretty perfect as deep snow access sleds.

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    Just picked up a new to me toy that will improve my skiing experience this winter. Got a hell of a deal (I think, being a sled jong) on this 2005 Yamaha rs vector. Anybody familiar with them? Recommended maintenance or issues to watch out for?

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    A ski area worker special.

    Just don't get stuck in deep powder with it. Unless you have 6 people to dig it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thefortrees View Post
    Just picked up a new to me toy that will improve my skiing experience this winter. Got a hell of a deal (I think, being a sled jong) on this 2005 Yamaha rs vector. Anybody familiar with them? Recommended maintenance or issues to watch out for?

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    Buddy has a vector, its heavy as fuck but starts every time, and he does near no maintenance to it. The biggest issue is that the rear exhaust ports have melted a pair of skis, one expensive camera case, and a pack that got too close. Took him a bit to get his homemade rack figured out to prevent such future occurrences. He also purchased a little collapsible jack to help with lifting the rear end out of any holes he ends up in - had my doubts with that, but it works like a charm.

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    Looking at a first sled for some ski powder laps. Theres a 2009 M8 for $2800 with 2200 miles amd a few 2014-2015 Summits around $5k one with under 1k miles. Is it worth spending another $2000-2500 on a newer Summit?

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    Maggot snowmobile thread

    Big thank you and shout out to GTID for hooking me up with a running project sled! A little transmission trouble shooting and some body work and should be ready for winter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jtlange View Post
    Looking at a first sled for some ski powder laps. Theres a 2009 M8 for $2800 with 2200 miles amd a few 2014-2015 Summits around $5k one with under 1k miles. Is it worth spending another $2000-2500 on a newer Summit?

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    Yes spend the extra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LHutz Esq View Post
    Thanks for that, I really appreciate it.

    In the end I went with this:

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    850 pro with 163 track upgrades to the shocks and bumper. No PIDD

    Not huge fan of the colour but it was what he had left for 2020 so he could give me the deal.

    Could get a wrap I suppose - but I have a cfr rack coming that will eat up the rest of the budget.

    Now to learn how to ride it.
    Countersteer, lean the direction you want to go and blip the throttle. That's all you need to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wapow View Post
    Countersteer, lean the direction you want to go and blip the throttle. That's all you need to know.
    Once you get it, life gets a lot easier... I say that but I still screwed it up all winter long

    Oh and buy the nicest sled you can afford, you will be happy you did.


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    Quote Originally Posted by crashidy View Post
    Yes spend the extra.

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    Absolutely

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    Quote Originally Posted by crashidy View Post
    Yes spend the extra.

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    +1

    Unless you're one of those people who can buy a 15-year-old, $1500 SUV with 200k on it, put bare minimum money into it, and somehow get it to run for another ten years and 100k, buy as much reliability as you can afford. I'm no sled expert, but the sled necks I talked to while troubleshooting mine seemed to think that it was completely normal for a sled to make a KTM look like the pinnacle of reliability and minimum maintenance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wapow View Post
    Countersteer, lean the direction you want to go and blip the throttle. That's all you need to know.
    Thanks for the advices. Seems harder to do in practice - but I have been watching instructional videos by a Mr. Enticer on the interwebs.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzOUgwsQ_hM&t=225s

  25. #3125
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    Thanks for the feedback. Obvious wisdom is to target a lower milage sled, but should I be afraid of ones that are around 2k miles in both a Summit and a RMK? Seeing a lot of RMKs that have rebuilt engines and that gives me pause.

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