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  1. #3801
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruiser View Post
    It ain't much but the season has started in the central swatch
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  2. #3802
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    Nah, just me and the kids fooling around since there was enough coverage on the road to get up to the alpine tunnel turnoff. I love meadow skipping when it's deep but in the meantime it's still a hell of a lot of fun to bury the throttle on a good straightaway.
    Brandine: Now Cletus, if I catch you with pig lipstick on your collar one more time you ain't gonna be allowed to sleep in the barn no more!
    Cletus: Duly noted.

  3. #3803
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falcon3 View Post
    Any info on a 2006 SkiDoo Summit X 800? From what I can find it looks like a solid sled, Iím getting tired of ski touring the same 3 spots in N. Idaho and a sled would open up a ton more touring in the Selkirks and Cabinets.
    So my use would be mostly snowed in forest roads, and up to WA pass from Manama. Itís got 4500miles and they want $1200.
    I had a '08 as my first sled. It got me where I wanted to go. Heavy, but it worked. My '11 was leaps better (and not stock), but for that price I wouldn't hesitate. I do think that in that era the RMK was the better big mountain machine.

  4. #3804
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    Sled loaded into the bed of the truck for the season. I think this is one of the earliest sheís been run up the ramps.

    Still need to bring her to the shop and do some pre-season maintenance, but slapped the battery in, put a couple gallons of premium fuel in the tank, and she roared to life without hesitation.

    Reports of about 1.2m at tree line cabins locally. Still low tide for roosting in the rhubarb, but looking forward to a trail run soon.

  5. #3805
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    Jong Q but searching didn't bring up much.

    Do most people repurpose their moto helmets for sledding or actually use an activity specific one (like a snocross helmet)?

  6. #3806
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    DOT moto helmet. I've used breath boxes a handful of times but would rather use my Nekker and a standard buff. Last year I bought electric defog goggles (Abom) and they kick ass.

  7. #3807
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    Brandine: Now Cletus, if I catch you with pig lipstick on your collar one more time you ain't gonna be allowed to sleep in the barn no more!
    Cletus: Duly noted.

  8. #3808
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruiser View Post
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    I'd brap

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  9. #3809
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    Anyone else see the pictures of the Buffalo Bills stadium covered in 77in of snow and want to rip around the field? That looked SO much fun


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  10. #3810
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    Quote Originally Posted by east or bust View Post
    About 2 years ago I acquired an AC 1M 570 that needed a bit of work from a fellow maggot. Just so happens one of my current neighbors was an AC mechanic for like 20 years. He replaced the rear tunnel, fixed transmission, and a couple other tune up items. Itís mint:

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    While I was over there chatting he offered to sell it back to me for $1700. He also mentioned heís got a 2004 AC 1M 900 that is his wifeís sled. Said itís too much power for her and she wants a smaller sled, and sheís going to downsize. He said itís pretty tricked out and only has a hair over 1000 miles on it. He wants $3500 for it.

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    Iím continuing to do some research, since I really donít know shit about what vintages of sleds hold their value. My neighbor said both sleds have pretty bomber engines, and heíd make me a deal if I bought both. Does that sound like a decent proposition? Iím really interested in that 900 to expand bc options.

    ETA: I like the idea of having the 570 as an option for my GF or visiting friends/family. Which would make bundling the two a more attractive option.
    Hell yeah thatís my old sled, looking awesome! Sheís a Teton veteran.


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  11. #3811
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    Iím working through a few details the seller didnít mention, but over all very stoked to get stuck further from help this year! Ski racks on, scratchers on, snow flap on, tools sorted, tow rope and innertube stowed. Just got to tune up the front end and get the grip heaters working. 2016 RMK 800 axys 163, upgrade from a Ď09 rmk 700. 80 lbs lighter! Freshly rebuilt top end, a little rough but thatíll keep me from feeling bad when i ride it like a punter.


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    Gravity always wins...

  12. #3812
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    Quote Originally Posted by riff View Post
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    Iím working through a few details the seller didnít mention, but over all very stoked to get stuck further from help this year! Ski racks on, scratchers on, snow flap on, tools sorted, tow rope and innertube stowed. Just got to tune up the front end and get the grip heaters working. 2016 RMK 800 axys 163, upgrade from a Ď09 rmk 700. 80 lbs lighter! Freshly rebuilt top end, a little rough but thatíll keep me from feeling bad when i ride it like a punter.


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    Nice score

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  13. #3813
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    This is what the sled is supposed to look like as riding season approaches, right? Upgraded the a-arm bushings from the nylon stock to brass oil-less bushings, which took the slop out and now steering is a bit tight so now steering column is coming out to replace those bushing sleeves and vibration isolators and to grease all of that up. Damn kids keep getting sick and prevent me from getting it done - it's like they don't care if I sled at all this year!
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    This kid's sled is running great so he doesn't seem to mind either way about my machine (he mainly likes to hit mine with ratchets and crescent wrenches, whichever I don't have in my hand when I get a moment to work on it).
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    "...if you're not doing a double flip cork something, skiing spines in Haines, or doing double flip cork somethings off spines in Haines, you're pretty much just gaping."

  14. #3814
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    I'm putting brass bushings in my front end this weekend as well. Nice upgrade. If your steering feels sloppy after you installed them, it may sloppy ball joints in the skis as opposed to loose steering post bushings. Have somebody hold the bars in place while you wiggle the skis. You should be able to easily identify the cause.

  15. #3815
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    Just put on new skis(wore the old ones out on gravel last june) ski bushings inside the spindles and new ski rubbers. Ready to rock'n'roll

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  16. #3816
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wapow View Post
    I'm putting brass bushings in my front end this weekend as well. Nice upgrade. If your steering feels sloppy after you installed them, it may sloppy ball joints in the skis as opposed to loose steering post bushings. Have somebody hold the bars in place while you wiggle the skis. You should be able to easily identify the cause.
    Nah, wound up having a rubbing feeling after installing the bushings. There was no grease left for the rubber vibration isolators and one of them was looking torn. I'm on a 2016, so old by a lot of guys' standards but I'd definitely consider it a wear item to grease every season or 2. Replaced the rubber isolators and the bushing sleeves top and bottom and it's smooth as butter now. Unfortunately I managed to snap one of the top M6 bolts (didn't even hit the 160 inch lbs of torque, so must have been weakened... not that I ever roll the sled or yank on the bars to roll it), Sadly, no one has a bolt locally and they won't be in until next week so it will sit open until then I guess. Ball joints are good and I just installed Munster ski bushing savers so hoping for a nice tight feel to the steering this season! On the bright side there is no snow here so I'm not missing anything.

    New one on top of the old one. Some wear for sure.
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    "...if you're not doing a double flip cork something, skiing spines in Haines, or doing double flip cork somethings off spines in Haines, you're pretty much just gaping."

  17. #3817
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    Can anyone confirm this torque value? 2016 summit x. I got a standard hex head bolt and nut to go on as a temp fix and torquing it stripped the threads out of the nut. I'm told the torque seems high for such a small bolt (M6x1.0x70) which in retrospect is probably true. Any input?

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    "...if you're not doing a double flip cork something, skiing spines in Haines, or doing double flip cork somethings off spines in Haines, you're pretty much just gaping."

  18. #3818
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    The manual for my '17 says 12.5Nm.

  19. #3819
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    Quote Originally Posted by shafty85 View Post
    Can anyone confirm this torque value? 2016 summit x. I got a standard hex head bolt and nut to go on as a temp fix and torquing it stripped the threads out of the nut. I'm told the torque seems high for such a small bolt (M6x1.0x70) which in retrospect is probably true. Any input?

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    Depending on bolt grade m6 should be 12-18nm.

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  20. #3820
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    159 "lbf*in" is "inch pounds." 18nm = 13.xx foot pounds. 159/12 = 13.25.

    13.25 foot pounds seems reasonable. 159 foot pounds, well, not so reasonable for a 6mm bolt.

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  22. #3822
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    I'm considering getting a snowmobile for access to more locations to skin/ski from. Mostly in WA, and would mostly be on roads that are closed in the winter to cars but open to snowmobiles. My buddy has two 600 two strokes, which I've ridden, and I'd mostly be with him and friends with my new sled. We do not much care for using the sleds for powder jumping, high marking and what not, and prefer to use them only for access to skinning and skiing. Would like it to hold two people and skis/gear.

    I'm considering getting a Ski Doo Grand Touring 600 ACE (4 stroke) for it's two seats, the promise of quieter operation, less smoke, and less maintenance/engine rebuilding (?).

    Would the Ski Doo Grand Touring 600 ACE (4 stroke) be a mistake i.e. likely be a problem for me on roads not groomed with unknown amounts of soft snow?

    Thanks for any insight and opinions anyone might provide to confirm or dissuade the 4-stroke direction.

  23. #3823
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    I don't know your terrain or snow conditions... I usually recommend a mountain sled rather than a big 4 stroke for any ungroomed at all, but if you're building a good track with two other sleds first then the big 4 stroke might work out. It will really suck when you inevitably get it stuck though.
    Best thing you can do is to talk to folks in your specific region that have ridden touring sleds around there.

  24. #3824
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    I had a Yamaha 4 stroke a bunch of years ago as a new rider and it was not a great experience. Sled was super heavy and made the already challenging task of turning even moreso. It rode 2up and towed very well on the groomed. A modern 2 stroke does just fine in those areas also but it's a heck of a lot easier to maneuver and infinitely more fun to hoon around on should you wish to do a teensy bit of power riding while the rest of the crew eats lunch. If you haven't experienced virtually endless face shots while accelerating hard uphill then please don't write off sledding for pleasure just yet cuz that shit is pretty decent too...
    Brandine: Now Cletus, if I catch you with pig lipstick on your collar one more time you ain't gonna be allowed to sleep in the barn no more!
    Cletus: Duly noted.

  25. #3825
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    Maggot snowmobile thread

    As a single (extra) datapoint, I always put the skis on my old little 11yo 600 summit. The skis come off about half the time. Despite the low tide this fall/early winter, I loaded her up Ďearlyí cause she shares storage with the summer watercraft and it was time for the canoe to get prepped for winter. She does have an extended seat for two, but that is only used rarely (wifeís nurse schedule aligns with mine far too rarely). But she can do the job if needed, and pulls a skimmer without a second thought. And if the conditions suck for skis, she provides face shots aplenty in the meadows. Stored and maintained at minimum, she roars to life each season loading her onto the taco. I dream of getting a newer 850 model often, but lack storage space for two sleds (wife would inherit the 600). Go mtn sled all the way for ski assist; go for true workhorse 4-stroke duty only if needed.

    My two cents.

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