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09-02-2008, 04:31 PM #1Registered User
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yet another cracked boat question
Cracked my Habitat- on a rock, not a stress crack, right under the seat. It welded pretty well but I was wondering if it is worth anything to sell? Any secrets to extending its life at this point?
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09-02-2008, 07:11 PM #2
You'd probably have to pay someone to take it.
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09-02-2008, 08:12 PM #3
Give it to a beginner. You can A: extend it's life by not being abused to hell, B: get the good smily vibes by helping someone else get into kayaking, and C: they won't notice if it does leak anyways because of not ever getting it completely dry after each swim.
Then again this is TGR aka look at me land, rather than lets play with others land, so straight up ignore that suggestion and turn it into a planter or something to decorate your dooryard.
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09-07-2008, 11:57 AM #4Registered User
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Just paddle it ,its gona break again from flexing ,I suggest you overlap a few of layers of ductape over the crack so you dont fill up when it does crack again .I had a 5 "crack under the seat of an old dancer ,I overlapped some ductape and did a trip on a river at low levels and hit bottom a couple of doz times in rock gardens ,the tape looked good as new so I paddled it for another 5 years changing the tape twice a season ,its amazing how ductape WILL hang in there thru repeated shore lanches/abarasions/groundingout
If you did sell it you would have to sell it fully disclosing the crack to a buyer
in the glass boat days they didnt fix every crack right away,they ductaped .Once or twice a season someone would get a case of beer ,they mix up some resin and patch some boats in someones garageLast edited by XXX-er; 09-07-2008 at 12:03 PM.
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09-07-2008, 12:22 PM #5
Something to try with the duct tape:
When you put a layer on heat the tape up with a lighter or torch until the silver part of the tape begins to bubble. Once it start to bubble get a metal spoon and smooth out the bubbles. Do one section of the duct tape patch at a time until the whole layer has been done like this. Then keep layering and repeating until you have 4 or 5 layers. It will last a lot longer then just put duct tape on top of duct tape. I have used this to fix cracked hulls on open boats and used it to fix a crack on a werner fiberglass paddle and haven't had to change the tape or the paddle in 2 years of paddling now. Worth a shot...
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09-07-2008, 12:51 PM #6Registered User
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or a heat gun is the best ,we used tape and a heat gun to fix something i don't recall and make sure the egdes of the tape are well rounded
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09-07-2008, 04:40 PM #7
^^^ Truth
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09-07-2008, 09:42 PM #8Registered User
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There's definitely some technique to it and it just takes practice but weld it, then put duct tape on the inside. the stuff they put under roofs, black kind of tar tape. We always called it bithithane not sure the real name but it keeps water out real well. I spent three weeks hittin the lil white with a welded boat and that was my system.
Answer the real question though, i've always gotten at least $100 out of a welded boat. Assuming the weld holds. weld paddle for a week and if its still good sell to a beginner.
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09-09-2008, 11:39 AM #9
Selling a broken boat - well, I wouldn't do it. Welded boats are broken boats. Give it away or trade for beer to a beginner.
That said, I've paddled broken boats for years. Yes, years - with the crack patched from the inside with layers of neoprene and/or roofing rubber. A good friend of mine paddled one with a foot long, 2" wide at the center, crack in the bottom for over a year. It was patched using this method. He swears by it, and it works. Well.
Welded boat = broken boat.
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09-09-2008, 04:49 PM #10Registered User
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To clarify and defend myself a little here. When I said sell I mean, I got cash instead of beer but about the equivalent of two cases of beer and only did it with friends who had seen the crack then the repair job and new the whole deal. I know they got more than two years of use out of it too.
I agree, selling a repaired boat to someone you don't know for any real amount of cash is shady.
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09-09-2008, 07:59 PM #11
Yep, I agree. "Selling" a cracked boat to a friend sounds okay. They must know what they are getting into.
I wasn't trying to sling any crap at anyone. Just adding my $0.03.
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09-09-2008, 09:03 PM #12Registered User
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So were you really not sure why the boat was full when you know you emptied it 2 minutes ago?
So you pull the skirt,look down and you can see river bottom thru the crack ?
A cracked boat must be sold with a full disclaimer as to the repaired damage
I gave my old dancer to my ex-GF to keep out at her cottage on the lake ,I hope somebody has fun with it ... AND I mean the boat
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09-09-2008, 09:27 PM #13It’s the places you ride that are special, not you riding there.”
All stunts performed without a net!
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09-10-2008, 08:30 AM #14
This spring, I paddled the Green Truss with a guy who had bolted a patch over his almost new creek boat that had somehow failed on the second day he used it. He had to cut out the serial # but he screwed and glued a piece of the same type of boat over the whole area on the stern. The frankenboat looked like shit but he made a no portage descent.
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09-10-2008, 09:03 AM #15Hucked to flat once
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Another option is to get extra boat plastic just bigger than the crack. Weld it. Drill holes through the new plastic and the hull, slather aquaseal betweent the two and the either rivet or t-nut them together. I did this with a Big Gun with an 8" crack in front of the seat. I paddled it for a year and sold it to a buddy for $100. He's still paddling it and that was 4 or 5 years ago.
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09-15-2008, 06:45 PM #16Registered User
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thanks for all the advice. The weld seems to be treating me well, it sounds like the way to go is paddle it and not care if anything happens to it because it is not worth much. thanks for the welding tips- some good ones.
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