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Thread: Mini Summit 2005: Yurp/La Grave
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07-14-2004, 10:20 AM #76
Thanks for the info guys, its only July and already the ball is in motion... Most likely I wont make a decision until fall until what I'm going to be doing, but now I've got decide between a week in Yurp and 3 in Maine, or a month out west in my car.
Those pictures are amazing btw, and I like the idea of finnish chicks. Or norwedges.
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07-14-2004, 10:21 AM #77Originally posted by Glisseur
I would say that none of the Triffides are steeper than 40 degrees at any part (except for a few meters in exceptional conditions). The main couloir is prolly around 35 for the most part and a bit steeper above the rock at the entrance, but close to 50? I doubt that. Zero should be about the same, maybe even flatter and Triffide Two is slightly steeper. Just my opinions having skied them a couple of times
Now it really sounds like skipass.com in here...
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vous n'avez pas skiez le supersteep ! il n'est pas plus des 52° !!
il est 30° !
vous etes ne pas un skieur !
now were talking skipass.comIt's a war of the mind and we're armed to the teeth.
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07-14-2004, 10:22 AM #78
Hehe, classic summer pissing contest. I know I am really bad at estimating gradients and that people don't believe me even when I have measured them so I'll shut up before I embarass myself...
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07-14-2004, 10:38 AM #79
Regarding getting to La Grave from the US, I've gone in via Geneva and then trained to Grenoble. Getting from Grenoble to La Grave can be complicated, but the Skiers Lodge (La Chaumine) will likely give you a ride for a few bucks. Ask for Pelle and plead dirtbag and Zappa.
Alternatively, you can take the train down through Gap and up to Briancon, but it's a long ride.
I've also been told that flying into Torino (Turin) is an option.Merde De Glace On the Freak When Ski
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07-14-2004, 11:14 AM #80
Pelle doesn't run Skiers Lodge out of La Chaumine anymore; he's based with Langley Travel (fukkrs) at the Hotel des Alpes in the center of La Grave. While I'm not to fond of the hotel operators Pelle runs the guiding biz himself and he's still cool. La Chaumine also still operates a guiding biz, but Pelle and a few other guides ain't there anymore. The place is still cool though.
I'll also say go to Lyon if possible; easiest airport to use when relying on public transport. Geneva works if you're hiring a car. If getting picked up by someone Turin (or in the worst case Milan could work). Train to Briancon via Gap should only be done for the heck of it (or if you're going to Serre). Lyon is by far the easiest. Grenoble is closest if flying in from a larger european city like London.
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07-14-2004, 11:19 AM #81Originally posted by Telepath
If getting picked up by someone Turin (or in the worst case Milan could work)I like big bikes and I cannot lie. You other brothers can't deny
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07-14-2004, 11:44 AM #82Originally posted by Telepath
Pelle doesn't run Skiers Lodge out of La Chaumine anymore; he's based with Langley Travel (fukkrs) at the Hotel des Alpes in the center of La Grave. While I'm not to fond of the hotel operators Pelle runs the guiding biz himself and he's still cool. La Chaumine also still operates a guiding biz, but Pelle and a few other guides ain't there anymore. The place is still cool though.
Shows how out of the loop I am. Anyway, do each of these operations runs vans to the Grenoble train station still? It's an option. But I defer to your expertise.Merde De Glace On the Freak When Ski
>>>200 cm Black Bamboo Sidewalled DPS Lotus 120 : Best Skis Ever <<<
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07-14-2004, 12:07 PM #83Originally posted by Buster Highmen
Do they use the Ventelon building as a hotel anymore
I think they both run transfers, at least at La Chaumine. Pelle at the Hotel des Alpes now gets most of his clients through swedish tour operator Langley Travel and they run their own bus transfer from the airport as well as a few clients that jump off from the Serre-bound bus.
But the best bet is prolly contacting Mulletizer or someone else who'll be there; they'll be able to put you in contact with someone owning a car and in need of cash
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07-14-2004, 12:15 PM #84
I've been there 3 times 96, 97 and 98. First time I did it w/ La Chaumine and subsequent times stayed in Briancon.
So it's been a while.
At the time, the flights from London to Geneva + train to Grenoble was cheaper than the flights to Lyon or Grenoble. That may have changed. In addition, I just wanted to see Geneva after reading about it in books by expats.
I'll get back there one of these years. But for the next year, my kids are too small to take on a trip that long with crappy airline air.
I always get some sort of lung infection when I fly to Europe.Merde De Glace On the Freak When Ski
>>>200 cm Black Bamboo Sidewalled DPS Lotus 120 : Best Skis Ever <<<
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07-14-2004, 12:23 PM #85Originally posted by Buster Highmen
I just wanted to see Geneva after reading about it in books by expats.
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07-14-2004, 01:38 PM #86
La Chaumine is for sale, I believe. If you like it you can buy it. I know they are keen to get rid of it pretty badly. How quickly can you say "maggot timeshare possibility"?.
I don't think the flights have changed massively but the trains are a nightmare. My advice is to avoid rail from Geneva to Grenoble like the plague. My mother flew into Geneva early doors (like 7 am) in 2002 and she got to Grenoble at 4pm. That's nine hours a 135km journey. Just not worth losing a day's skiing for IMO. Hop can elaborate - he had similar experiences, I think.
Most Trans-Atlantic flights seem to use London, Amsterdam or Frankfurt as a hub IME - from there you can generally specify pretty much any airport to go to as a final destination for the same price. It might take an hour or two's wait longer to go to Lyon or Grenoble than Geneva but, believe me, it'll be worth it at the other end. And if you stop in Amsterdam there are "ways" of "burning" time. Shit, I can only imaginme what would happen if Superstar Punani had a few hours spare there.
I'll have a phone and wheels. In worst cases I should be able to help out although I will not - repeat: will not - drive to Geneva to pick anyone up.
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07-14-2004, 02:04 PM #87
hehe
Originally posted by Mulletizer
La Chaumine is for sale, I believe. If you like it you can buy it. I know they are keen to get rid of it pretty badly. How quickly can you say "maggot timeshare possibility"?.
Originally posted by Mulletizer
It might take an hour or two's wait longer to go to Lyon or Grenoble than Geneva but, believe me, it'll be worth it at the other end.
Originally posted by Mulletizer
I will not - repeat: will not - drive to Geneva to pick anyone up.
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07-14-2004, 02:16 PM #88Originally posted by Punani
The descent into GVA alone gives me a throbbing boner.Merde De Glace On the Freak When Ski
>>>200 cm Black Bamboo Sidewalled DPS Lotus 120 : Best Skis Ever <<<
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07-14-2004, 02:38 PM #89Originally posted by Mulletizer
La Chaumine is for sale, I believe. If you like it you can buy it. I know they are keen to get rid of it pretty badly. How quickly can you say "maggot timeshare possibility"?.I like big bikes and I cannot lie. You other brothers can't deny
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07-14-2004, 03:33 PM #90
This looks more like the budget.
http://www.green-acre.com/properties/05gui01.htm
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08-04-2004, 01:09 PM #91Originally posted by bad_roo
This looks more like the budget.
http://www.green-acre.com/properties/05gui01.htm
275000 EUR / 17 MAGGOTS = 16176 EUR for lodging for life at la grave. not a bad deal....hmmmmm?
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08-04-2004, 01:34 PM #92my avatar is 2 big 2 fit
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Got me interested. Only about 3.5 - 4 hours to Geneve; depending on road conditions and traffic around Grenoble.
What are the maintenance bills per year over the last 5 years?
Heating system type and last updated?
Roof type and last updated?
Potential income from rentals during winter & summer?
Price sounds good to me if we can make some income to cover our expenses and no major renovation needed. I would like to have a look at it and have some questions to be answered before I jump in. Anyone traveling down to see it?
LITT
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08-04-2004, 01:52 PM #93
I'm sure Mulletizer will dissuade you. Let's just say it's tres rustic.
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08-04-2004, 01:55 PM #94have not
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Originally posted by Ripzalot
it's got potential. 17 rooms....
275000 EUR / 17 MAGGOTS = 16176 EUR for lodging for life at la grave. not a bad deal....hmmmmm?
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08-05-2004, 07:55 AM #95Originally posted by bad_roo
I'm sure Mulletizer will dissuade you. Let's just say it's tres rustic.
On a cheerier note - I just got confirmation that my accommodation for the winter is sorted. December to the end of May. Pretty happy about that
So, who else is coming to this summit?
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08-05-2004, 01:02 PM #96my avatar is 2 big 2 fit
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OK. I know the location of the village. Bummer no winter access. Frog-et-it.
Yeah, I would be interested in coming down for a few days. Plenty of space in my SpaceWagon. I can bring TeleAl and Ripzalot w/ me.
Travel w/ peau de phoque, cord and harness. Went too far off-piste last season at Glacier 3000, got freaked and realized I would like to ski until I am 80. Always want a quick-out alternative.
LITT
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08-05-2004, 01:29 PM #97click click boom
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Originally posted by Mulletizer
On a cheerier note - I just got confirmation that my accommodation for the winter is sorted. December to the end of May. Pretty happy about that
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08-19-2004, 12:44 AM #98
[Ben Stiller]Do it... Do it...[/BS]
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09-08-2004, 11:57 AM #99
dates
bump....
is this thing a go or what? i'm trying to get a read on dates for a friend who wants to join. about all i can tell is roo & the mrs will be there for a week starting jan 22?
anyone else going have some dates in mind?
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09-08-2004, 12:09 PM #100
Hmm, anything between beginning of Jan and untill the end of trade show season (ends with ISPO first or second weekend of Feb) means I'm unable to show up Mid-Feb onwards means a bigger chance of passing by; but too much is still up in the air for me to prefer certain dates.
If I'm around the Serre Che guided & goaded tours will be in full operation thoughself unemployed?
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