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Thread: Vaccinations and autism?
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03-15-2019, 10:19 AM #526
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03-15-2019, 11:08 AM #529Banned
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True. IMHO, one of the biggest challenges with an adult diagnosis is coming to terms with the dependence on coping mechanisms and the facade of normalcy that many people go to great lengths to maintain. Those practices are exhausting, and do exact a toll, but they become so deeply ingrained that it becomes second nature to implement them. Behavioral therapy can be a (rewarding) challenge for a "normal" adult, but it's often particularly daunting for an adult with ASD.
That's one strong argument for early screening/awareness.
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03-15-2019, 12:18 PM #530
Yes. Early intervention is important.
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03-15-2019, 12:30 PM #531"fuck off you asshat gaper shit for brains fucktard wanker." - Jesus Christ
"She was tossing her bean salad with the vigor of a Drunken Pop princess so I walked out of the corner and said.... "need a hand?"" - Odin
"everybody's got their hooks into you, fuck em....forge on motherfuckers, drag all those bitches across the goal line with you." - (not so) ill-advised strategy
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03-16-2019, 12:41 PM #532
It's not just MMR. These parents didn't let their kid get the DPT, kid got tetanus, seems to have permanent disability and there's an enormous medical bill someone has to pay. And the parents still refuse to have him vaccinated.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/09/w...s-vaccine.html
It's time to put an end to this bullshit. The courts routinely order medical care for the kids of Christian Scientists and transfusions for the kids of Jehovah's Witnesses. Not vaccinating your kids should be a crime unless there is a valid medical contraindication. It should be a crime for a doctor to make up a bogus exemption. Children are not property; parents do not have a right to harm them or allow them to be harmed.
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03-16-2019, 12:55 PM #533
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03-16-2019, 02:43 PM #534
Have the vax regs in Australia been effective?
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03-16-2019, 02:51 PM #535
I'm very much in favor of people making their own health decisions as long as they're adults and as long as they don't harm anyone else (eg--treatment for TB, VD is and should be mandatory). If an old person wants to live at home even if they can't take proper care of themselves that's fine with me (I expect to be one of them if I live long enough). I respected the refusal of JW's to take transfusions and had one patient die as a result. (I was on the short list of local surgeons the JW's recommended).
People think freedom means the right to do anything they want regardless of the consequences. That's certainly not how the founders understood it. They meant freedom from decisions imposed on them by an outside entity. They thought so little of personal freedom that they forgot to say anything about it in the Constitution, hence the Bill of Rights amending it.
More recently, FDR's 4 freedoms--of speech, religion, from fear, from want--say nothing about the freedom to roll coal or to do anything else besides speak and pray. (The Civil Rights Act has no exemption for religious belief--what if your religion says the races shouldn't mix, so why is there a religious exemption for gay wedding cakes?)
When people today say that any govt action doing something to them or requiring the to do something that they don't like is tyranny or unconstitutional, or treason, they are showing their ignorance of the Constitution; most of them probably couldn't pass the naturalization test that the despised immigrants have to pass to be citizens.
Too bad there's no vaccine for thread drift.
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03-16-2019, 04:15 PM #536
My nephew's on the spectrum. Zero doubt that he wouldn't have been diagnosed/labeled when I was in grade school. His father might have been if he was a child today. I think it's a GOOD thing that we're learning more about it and how best to educate and socialize kids who actually have it. Too bad Chicken Littles of the world are so easily manipulated in to sabotaging public health as an unintended consequence of better diagnosis and more awareness..
Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!
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03-16-2019, 06:36 PM #537Funky But Chic
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03-16-2019, 06:37 PM #538Funky But Chic
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03-16-2019, 08:06 PM #540
DSM 5 drastically changed the criterium.
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03-16-2019, 08:12 PM #541Funky But Chic
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03-19-2019, 08:15 AM #542
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/03/19/h...ise/index.html
Interviews with mothers who've lost children and with those who spy on anti-vaccination groups, reveal a tactic employed by anti-vaxers: When a child dies, members of the group sometimes encourage each other to go on that parent's Facebook page. The anti-vaxers then post messages telling the parents they're lying and their child never existed, or that the parent murdered them, or that vaccines killed the child, or some combination of all of those.
Nothing is considered too cruel. Just days after their children died, mothers say anti-vaxers on social media called them whores, the c-word and baby killers.
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03-19-2019, 11:42 AM #543
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03-19-2019, 07:22 PM #544
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03-21-2019, 05:52 AM #547
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03-21-2019, 06:26 AM #548Banned
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I wonder if Mark Zuckerberg gets shit from his wife (she's a doctor).
https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/03/21/hea...www.cnn.com%2F
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03-21-2019, 08:47 AM #549
for having autism? that’d be a weird relationship.
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03-21-2019, 10:07 AM #550
Explain that reasoning to your sons wife/loved one.
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