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05-05-2004, 07:42 AM #1Blurred Elevens Guest
Brett Responds...
Wow, what a day here. Just got done reading most of this crap. You guys
want the WHOLE soap-opera? Here ya go.
I will go ahead and fill of you in on a long history of a vast flame
war. K2 Chatter board was around in maybe 98'??? I was one of the
original posters there, along with Lemon Boy, Superstar Punani,
SummitConuskulr, and TwoBuddah. (memories!) Sorry if I've forgotten the
others. It was a ski chartroom in its infancy, and it worked pretty well.
It didn't have the community vibe, but was more haphazard like
newschoolers.com. I first logged on as Hugeairdog, just as a joke, not
taking the board seriously and having fun with it. Spent a year there,
and than took a hiatus for about 6 months. When I went back, the board
was gone.
I found out that most of those guys went to Powdermag.com. I than
signed on there as Brett aka Hugeairdog, only keeping the lame HAD
moniker for any others I had past known in the K2 Chatter forum to
recognize me. Well, I entered a beehive and it has not stopped since,
even though that was probably around 4 years ago. The group was a tight
knit bunch of people including Iceman, Dexter Rutecki, phUnk, MD9, Buster
Highmen, Pinner and focus. Outsiders were harassed and these guys did a
good job in seeing that the board was moderated by them to their
standards, and hundreds were flamed off the board. Here is where I come
in. These guys hammered me the same way AKPM is being hammered now and
has been since day one. However, unlike AKPM, I am not a pacifist. I took
it to them and boy did they ever take it to me. Each one of these guys
mentioned will agree that I flame warred with each of them individually
for extended periods of time.
I saw the board as a place that was public for anyone to use to talk
skiing, and I didn't feel like it was fair for these guys to treat
everyone else like shit. They saw it as their hangout, and I was the
outsider stirring up their little cult. Flame wars back then were a lot
worse than anything TGR has seen. Me vs. focus was probably the worst,
but I went at it pretty hard with every one of these guys......it's
worked out differently with each one over the years.
This is my take on how each feud worked out.
Iceman-Iceman and I pretty much warred with each other up until the last
year. As of then, I think common ground was found and we shared some
laughs.
phUnk-I said some things early on in the powdermag days that really
pissed phUnk off. Several years back I tried burying the hatchet with him
by offering to help produce a maggot video through e-mail, he couldn't
get over our beef and decided not only to pass up the offer, but to use
it as ammo in his war with me. I than engaged into him with both bazookas
blazing, and we've been at it in one way or another ever since. He just
resorts to subtle flame war tactics nowadays like shitting in my stoke
threads and stuff, usually nonchalantly.
Buster Highmen- Nothing really changed in our war, only that he ignored
me as of late really well, and in turn I didn't say much to him. He's
done the "ignore" thing better than any of them.
focus-The guy just disappeared one day, and that was that.
Dexter Rutecki- been flaming the hardest with me from day one. He's taken
things the most personally as demonstrated this past week. He just can't
let it go, even though I've offered him an olive branch time and time
again. I've turned my cheek over and over, but he keeps coming.....
Pinner-he and I flamed as hard as any others back in the day. One on one,
aliases against aliases, you name it. No holds were barred. He's the only
one I've met in real person....that was two weeks ago, we skied at
Loveland. It was all good, and years of flame wars and bullshit were
swept aside replaced with the stoke of skiing.
MD9-I feel the worst about MD9. We never warred real hard, except for
that shit a few weeks ago. I sincerely didn't know he was drugged_monkey,
and I made a comment which I wouldn't have if I'd have known otherwise.
It wasn't a dart intended for him, but he reacted with the thought of
thinking I did know he was the D_M. We than spun off that saying a bunch
of stupid shit that riled this place up...all from a dumb
misunderstanding. I do however think his head got a little too big, and
he had a huge part in chasing off KQ, he was already burned on this
place.
There are probably some of the other old guard that I've forgotten about,
but you get the idea. Most other shit-flinging incidents are outsiders
that don't know this history, and than see me warring with all these guys
and not surprisingly see me as the asshole. They make some comment about
me being a dick. I used to explain this shit, but it really got tiresome,
and I got lazy and just talked shit to them too, and it's a mad vicious
cycle. Pretty soon, it all comes to a head like it did today.
Those who haven't talked shit to me, have NEVER had a problem with me. I
don't pick on people. (except AKPM, but he knows I am )
There are a lot of people that are here today only because I paved the
way of tolerance here. It really is ridiculous how many people I've
talked to in the real world that are afraid to speak their thoughts here
in fear of retaliation from the old guard or other bandwagon sheoples.
I've stood up for what I think is right here time and time again. I
always speak my mind whether others agree with me or not. I stick up for
others like Dipstik and Samwich when others are bandwagon style attacking
them for their beliefs. I've tried making amends with every maggot I've
had beef with. Remember the whole binding/TJ thing this Winter? We've
both apologized and moved on through PM's. I've met 30 maggots this year,
and had a fucking blast with them all. "Powder to the Maggots" is on the
back of a chairlift in Silverton, which was my suggestion. I've given it
a shot to organize a mini-Colorado Summit the day before I was banned,
which is still going to happen. Summit and I have posted more stoke than
most this Winter, only for some of you guys to shit all over. SummitCo
has been more than a contributor to this board, and you guys saying shit
like "You won't be missed, leave" to him really piss me off. I'd
guarantee that he's posted more stoke this year than you guys have. What
has Dex posted this Winter that is ski related? I'll tell you guys
something, I get PM's everyday saying "Brett, I respect you for standing
up to these guys". Let it be known that the people you aren't hearing
from right now are in my corner. I had maggots calling me on the phone
all day today talking about this. Not just a few, but several. Some of
them you wouldn't even imagine being willing to talk to me, not in your
wildest imagination.
As far as you go ONS, you made a harsh decision without knowing the whole
story. You've gotta be here more than you are to understand the whole
story. I'm not going to go into particulars, but you keep talking about
this "stoke". Summit and I post it more than most others, no doubt. You
deleted a thread about 6 months ago because I put up someone's real name.
You asked me not to do that again, and I apologized. Dex continued to
shit all over my threads, and I ignored him. It was not until he was 3
pages deep into a certain maggots "maggots sighting thread" shitting all
over it until she deleted it. I'd had enough and told Dex to drop it or
engage in summer stink. He chose the latter, and ended up crying to you
because of a funny picture of him that was already on the board, minus
the Prozac tag. He decided to play with fire, and he got burnt. You
didn't warn me at all, and pulled the plug. Than all this crap about more
negative than positive....My last 3 threads, all ski related. Pull up
Dex's last 3. Pull up his last 20. I bet less than 10% are ski related.
If you're going to start deleting negative handles, start with Ted
Stryker. Also, tell everyone that he is not me. Than explain who he
really is. Than go down the line with Bretts Anus, Blurred 11's and so
on.
Owens, your board has done so much for skiing, myself, and everyone on
it. I am very grateful, but I think you're reaction was a little
extreme. Next time you do it, at least try and settle it privately and
don't fall prey to the dominant and entrenched exclusionary elitist
clique that uses deceit and propaganda to sway the actions of others here.
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05-05-2004, 07:51 AM #2
Brett - you ignored one of your own maxims. Don't try to bring fists to a knife fight.
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05-05-2004, 07:59 AM #3Registered User
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I thought you didn't care....I mean, it is just the internet.
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05-05-2004, 08:01 AM #4
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05-05-2004, 08:12 AM #5
I do like your story.
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05-05-2004, 08:21 AM #6
peace out, guy.
happy trails.
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05-05-2004, 08:21 AM #7features a sintered base
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Stopped reading when Brett claimed he was 'defending' the 'hundreds' of people we ran off the board.
I guess when he re-registered he came off the ignore list.
All together now: 'crock of shit'.[quote][//quote]
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05-05-2004, 08:28 AM #8
Re: Brett Responds...
Originally posted by Blurred Elevens
Those who haven't talked shit to me, have NEVER had a problem with me.
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05-05-2004, 08:28 AM #9Registered User
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Did you ever wonder why people were "attacking " you in the 1st place ? I've been around for a long time and I have NEVER seen ANYONE get flamed on here who didn't deserve it. Brett you keep referring to all the stoke you and summit provide fair enough but you can't leave out the fact you have also provided as much outrageous bullshit. Your overall theme seems to be " it's the internet, were just having fun, chill out, if I meet you in person I'll be cool ...etc " well you never really seemed to grasp that there should be no difference in behavior here or actually meeting up and skiing with someone. If we ever cross paths I'd be happy to take a run with you, but honestly I won't miss your " online persona " here.
"Do the interns get Glocks ? "
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05-05-2004, 08:30 AM #10Originally posted by Dexter Rutecki
Stopped reading when Brett claimed he was 'defending' the 'hundreds' of people we ran off the board.
I guess when he re-registered he came off the ignore list.
All together now: 'crock of shit'.
Dexter, are you a little girl in a grown mans body?Last edited by Billow; 05-05-2004 at 09:41 AM.
It’s so quiet, it’s so cool, it’s so cold
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05-05-2004, 08:30 AM #11
Brett, it actually sounds like you believe what you just wrote. You are a victim of circumstance, a martyr and along with summit one of the most positive influences on this board.
What you describe and what I have witnessed over the past two years, couldn't be more different.
I feel sorry for you. You seem terribly confused at best and somewhat delusional at worst. I know people have attached Psychiatric disorders to you in the past, maybe they were on the right track.
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05-05-2004, 08:33 AM #12features a sintered base
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Originally posted by Billow
Dexter, are you a little girl in a grown mans body?
Want to try to post something that isn't moronic, or is this all you got?[quote][//quote]
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05-05-2004, 08:37 AM #13
I would have taken the "Billow, are you a grown man in a little girl's body" tack but that's just me. I too need psychiatric help.
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05-05-2004, 08:42 AM #14I've been around for a long time and I have NEVER seen ANYONE get flamed on here who didn't deserve it.
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05-05-2004, 08:42 AM #15features a sintered base
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See, you're supposed to email me those zingers BEFORE I post, not post them after I've already retorted.
You're not helping me the way I expect, roo. I might have to order a performance review for you.[quote][//quote]
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05-05-2004, 08:49 AM #16
I'm going to get some breakfast... anyone wanna join me?
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05-05-2004, 08:51 AM #17Registered User
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Originally posted by DaveTV
You've GOT to be kidding me!"Do the interns get Glocks ? "
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05-05-2004, 08:55 AM #18
you know what I don't get? on powmag, the old guard flamed many a newcomer away, because it was their playground. I remember some of it myself, I lurked for quite a while. then WTF is the big deal with KQ's quitting the board? Some feedback scared her off, and while there were aliai created that pales by comparison to some of the shit pulled on powmag. So why the big stink?
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05-05-2004, 08:58 AM #19
The absence of KQs recipes has got everyone turned on to eating out. Pizzas, seafood, you name it. Is that a bad thing? I dunno.
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05-05-2004, 09:05 AM #20
I don't miss the political threads. It's nice to have a haven from the friggin SHITSTORM going on in the Middle East.
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05-05-2004, 09:06 AM #21
Dave - You're not really a TV are you?
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05-05-2004, 09:08 AM #22Originally posted by bad_roo
The absence of KQs recipes has got everyone turned on to eating out. Pizzas, seafood, you name it. Is that a bad thing? I dunno.
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05-05-2004, 09:11 AM #23Originally posted by bad_roo
Dave - You're not really a TV are you?
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05-05-2004, 09:12 AM #24Registered User
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Originally posted by KevinDineen
You're all gonna get FAT!
"Do the interns get Glocks ? "
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05-05-2004, 09:20 AM #25Originally posted by Dexter Rutecki
Stopped reading when Brett claimed he was 'defending' the 'hundreds' of people we ran off the board.
I guess when he re-registered he came off the ignore list.
All together now: 'crock of shit'.You are what you eat.
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