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  1. #5801
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    Quote Originally Posted by skiracer88_00 View Post
    Any control work to be seen on the ridge?
    Besides a few slides nature has released. No.

  2. #5802
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    Heard approximately 5 bombs from up high yesterday between 10:30 and 2:00. Didn't have great visibility, but sounded like I heard a successful release, hard to tell where.
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  3. #5803
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    Quote Originally Posted by miserywhip View Post
    Heard approximately 5 bombs from up high yesterday between 10:30 and 2:00. Didn't have great visibility, but sounded like I heard a successful release, hard to tell where.
    They got some stuff to move in patrol bowl.

  4. #5804
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    As of the end of the day Monday, there was a small release in patrol bowl, nothing more than recent storm snow. No sign of anything else as far as I could tell. Visibility wasn't spectacular, but definitely nothing went that was large enough make me feel any better about skiing 9 when it does open.

  5. #5805
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    Quote Originally Posted by cooks View Post
    As of the end of the day Monday, there was a small release in patrol bowl, nothing more than recent storm snow. No sign of anything else as far as I could tell. Visibility wasn't spectacular, but definitely nothing went that was large enough make me feel any better about skiing 9 when it does open.
    Loveland's terrain management on the ridge appears to rely pretty heavily on bridging over weak layers. They simply rely on the principle that "if a bomb won't trigger a hard slab, neither will a skier". In many cases, this is true...but not always.

  6. #5806
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    I hear persistent slabs totally are controllable with small hand charges and ski cuts. Super bowl definitely has never slid to the ground after the public has been skiing it for several weeks...

  7. #5807
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    Quote Originally Posted by cooks View Post
    I hear persistent slabs totally are controllable with small hand charges and ski cuts.
    Is that sort of like survival of the fittest with Loveland Ski Patrol?

  8. #5808
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    Patrol was very busy yesterday,..... skiing & sitting inside.
    Calmer than you dude

  9. #5809
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    Right....

    I heard that Super Bowl ripped out too. Natural avalanche too....
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  10. #5810
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hacksaw View Post
    Right....

    I heard that Super Bowl ripped out too. Natural avalanche too....
    slid pretty much to the ground. huge.

  11. #5811
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    Gotta give it up to ABasin's patrol. They got Zuma and all the steeps open two days ago, and it was awesome. They were obviously doing a lot of prep leading up to this storm, as the Cornice face was stable and deep. Too bad Loveland can't get ridge terrain open like Super Bowl until 2/3 of the season is over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The SnowShow View Post
    Gotta give it up to ABasin's patrol. They got Zuma and all the steeps open two days ago, and it was awesome. They were obviously doing a lot of prep leading up to this storm, as the Cornice face was stable and deep. Too bad Loveland can't get ridge terrain open like Super Bowl until 2/3 of the season is over.
    They are doing an amazing job. They had a change in leadership that led to this excellent management.

    Loveland will hopefully have a change soon.
    Quote Originally Posted by blurred
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  13. #5813
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    ^ the change in leadership 5 years ago?
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  14. #5814
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    Quote Originally Posted by Summit View Post
    They are doing an amazing job. They had a change in leadership that led to this excellent management.

    Loveland will hopefully have a change soon.
    Was it Al? Or has he been there longer? Regardless, he's awesome, and I love how transparent he is on his blog.

  15. #5815
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    Quote Originally Posted by N1CK. View Post
    slid pretty much to the ground. huge.
    That's three years in a row! Good job loveland gaper patrol! What is this, amateur hour?

    At least you didn't have skiers on that slab for weeks before hand this year!

  16. #5816
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    So the whole state is under an avalanche warning and it's LL patrol's fault that a natural slide occurred in their terrain on a prime aspect for avalanches. They shoulda been up there day and night, throughout the storm cycle and major wind event, boot packing with an army of patrollers to prevent that slide RIGHT!?!?!?

    FYI, Zuma is open, but not completely. Most of the steep, wind loaded stuff is still closed.

  17. #5817
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    Loveland tomorrow?

    Wouldn't boot packing that bowl during early season help?

    FWIW, Zuma Cornice is open to Durrance. That's certainly steep and wind loaded. And patrol is currently working on getting the rest of the steeps open right now.

    Meanwhile, 9 should be open and ready by early Feb.

  18. #5818
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    Boot packing early season doesn't help with storm slabs.

  19. #5819
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    Loveland tomorrow?

    Right, but would it help stabilize the layers below the storm layers enough that they could then ski cut or boot pack the storm layers after the big snow, then open up the slope soon after?

  20. #5820
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    Quote Originally Posted by hatchgreenchile View Post
    Boot packing early season doesn't help with storm slabs.
    It does help with persistent weak layers at the base of the snowpack though. This time it was a cornice fall in the middle of the night (can't really blame patrol for that) that triggered a persistent slab at the ground (which I'm happy to blame patrol for). Yes, it's difficult terrain, but it's not the only place in the state with similar. Somehow we don't see reports like this coming out from Highlands year after year after year.
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  21. #5821
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    ^ sure does. But massive wind loading at 12k isn't going to be remedied by bootpacking
    ...

  22. #5822
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    But we're not just looking at storm slabs ripping out. Once again, LL patrol has let things on the ridge get to the point where it's ripping out at the ground. Proper early-season control work would have made this slide not particularly noteworthy, instead it indicates they haven't made any changes despite the ridge ripping to the ground over and over.
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  23. #5823
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    I agree bean. Just saying that no amount of early season boot packing will stop suspect slopes from sliding when big totals or wind stack up . The severity can be mitigated.

  24. #5824
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    Quote Originally Posted by hatchgreenchile View Post
    The severity can be mitigated.
    That's the entire goal... And timing
    Quote Originally Posted by blurred
    skiing is hiking all day so that you can ski on shitty gear for 5 minutes.

  25. #5825
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    Who is going to bootpack the entire Ridge? LL has 10 times the area of Highlands but 1/20 the number of skiers and patrollers. You guys love the Luv for the same reasons that you hate it. It is like this every year but you keep buying passes and skiing there and playing urban avalanche expert.

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