Colorado Weather Discussion Thread

[rudy]

[QUOTE= Godspeed to them. Doesn't interest me but more people skiing isn't a bad thing.[/QUOTE

After seeing the lines at Jackson and Vail last weekend I'm not sure I care that much about "growing the sport".

[Kinnikinnick]

No. I've discussed the concept with them once very, very early in their process but otherwise have no connection with them at all. I'm neither strongly for or against what they're doing.

I don't think it's hard to figure out who they are marketing to. They're not advertising "avalanche controlled backcountry steeps" or "epic deep powder." They are very clearly gearing towards beginners, people who skin for fitness, and people that just generally want to go for a walk in the woods on skis and not really worry about avalanches.

Oh I thought you must have had some involvement to know who the target market is,
But I guess you were just being the know it all bro-brah.


They have some advanced terrain on the mountain, just won’t be open at first without them guiding.


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[rocca]

Props to Bluebird for trying it out. Not something I'm interested in, but if it gets people out there trying shit out in a controlled environment to see if they like it I'm all for it. I doubt it will reduce the number of people I see around the Front Range backcountry hot spots who straight up can't fucking ski (numbers certainly aren't going down), but every little bit helps.

[adrenalated]

I guess you were just being the know it all bro-brah.

Pretty much, yea

[EWG]

Oh I thought you must have had some involvement to know who the target market is,
But I guess you were just being the know it all bro-brah.

I mean, that's just exceptional work. 9 / 10.

[fastfred]

https://www.vaildaily.com/news/vail-...ve-lift-lines/

so the PR division down in broomfield worked over time putting together a piece shit for beth to sign off on
still trying to figure out the point of it all maybe one of you ivey leagurers can explain it too me
the comment sections is gold, seems like they offered a bunch of people free lift tickets to write saw awesome stuff
go robby katz stocks up and you still suck dick at skiing

[Kinnikinnick]

I mean, that's just exceptional work. 9 / 10.

Credit where credit is due.

<golf clap>




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[galibier_numero_un]

Classic marketing BS. The comments were priceless.

[Rideski]

I mean, that's just exceptional work. 9 / 10.

He rolled down the windows a little bit.

[fastfred]

He rolled down the windows a little bit.

To let the fart out?

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[The SnowShow]

I think Vail did a fine job and everyone should just going there. It’s Like Nothing On Earth after all!

[Lightning1911]

I think Vail did a fine job and everyone should just going there. It’s Like Nothing On Earth after all!

Agreed! Go to Vail!!

[galibier_numero_un]

Agreed! Go to Vail!!

Yes! And where else can you be so "absolutely safe"?

According to Beth ...

But safety always comes first — and to ensure terrain is absolutely safe for guests and employees, it takes time.

... Thom

[fastfred]

Yes! And where else can you be so "absolutely safe"?

According to Beth ...

... Thom

well duh
after draging a law suit out for five years so vail don't have to take any responsiblity after some poor kid entered unsafe avalanche terrain that was mismanaged I guess beth is right on

[Kinnikinnick]

Yeah right. Who knew that hiking uphill from a boundary rope wasn’t allowed.

Well me and 99.9% of the skiing population but hey gotta have a bogey man.


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[RonMexico]

Yeah right. Who knew that hiking uphill from a boundary rope wasn’t allowed.

Well me and 99.9% of the skiing population but hey gotta have a bogey man.


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Jesus dude. A 13 year old kid. That’s who might not know about that.

[MakersTeleMark]

Jesus dude. A 13 year old kid. That’s who might not know about that.

Fuck you, I'm the first to shit on Vail, and I'm a dentist, but Taft was old enough and smart enough to know exactly what he was doing. It was a classic case of teen DUI. Seen it many times. Too bad his parents needed litigation to get a closure that they could never find personally knowing that their perfect child that they raised was just a prop of their own fantasies. They lost on all counts, and it should be right in the mirror on them. One of my best friends was on the jury, and it fucked him up more than the community. You can't live here and look that situation in the eye and not know exactly what went down.

You want to close terrain down, of course you don't, but you are the first to bitch when someone goes into a closure and dies, knowing very well it's shut. Fuck that.

It's a round of fuck ups and complacency. On all sides. It brought out the sick nature of the perfect child syndrome in parents in the valley, it brought out the sick cover up with VR and reporting. It brought out the very worst.

If I get that beacon from DSM, it's going right to a high school student. That's why I gave him my name and address and asked to take it off his hands. I was at the academy this morning. Looking for candidates.

[RonMexico]

Wow - didn’t mean to strike a nerve. I didn’t know him and certainly wasn’t advocating for the route his parents took with my comment. I also don’t think it’s fair to let their decision end up being reflected on him.

All I know is that I’m not sure I would have been aware of that when I was 13 - nor do I think most kids that age would be. I didn’t grow up in a resort town though, so maybe everybody’s knowledge of ski area policies is much better than mine would have been. Who knows. I just thought it was a little rough to take that tone regarding a fatal mistake made by a young kid, regardless of what transpired after.


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[MakersTeleMark]

You don't know. He did. He poached that line with full knowledge. No innocence there.

I was growing weed in my windowsill and fucking at 13. That kid was skiing those lines almost 2 decades before I did in his life.

Don't assume anything. He was a fuck up. A perfect little fuck up. Nice kid, but a fuck up.

You are way out of your element. He was not a random 13 year old in a resort. That line was taught to him over a couple years of shenanigans.

Do you think us locals would bother side stepping up for a couple hundred feet into upper prima cornice to get a couple turns? Hell no. One, you could just duck the rope, two, what's the point, there are so many places to get better ones. I know personally who invented that move. It's sad all around, but Taft was a cocky kid. You can't extrapolate from anything more than that.

Stupidity, with results.

[concretejungle]

Hey Makers is drunk and angry on the internet again.


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[~mikey b]

dood

there are a lot of raw nerves out there


and it’s ok to ask questions

even if people don’t like them

[~mikey b]

❤️

[MakersTeleMark]

❤️

Mike, do you need a hug? Because I just got home from trivia and am making a killer chicken paprikash.

It just crushes me when people serve up BS on the internet which is de rigor, but I chose to clip that in places where I actually have facts.

[RonMexico]

Fair enough Makers. As Mikey said, there are clearly still some raw nerves and it wasn’t my intention to stoke the flames. I had an immediate reaction to the calling out of that kid based on what I know of my own experiences and ski area knowledge at that age - which unfortunately didn’t involve either windowsill weed or skiing Vail regularly.

[insert Homer Simpson backing into bush gif here]

[~mikey b]

Mike, do you need a hug? Because I just got home from trivia and am making a killer chicken paprikash.

It just crushes me when people serve up BS on the internet which is de rigor, but I chose to clip that in places where I actually have facts.

no man I’m good

seems like you need a hug


some people don’t know the situation as it was so they just respond with what they know now and it’s ok