Colorado Weather Discussion Thread

**ffmedic84** · 03-14-2018, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by bamboocoreONLY

If you’re gonna go the sidecountry route, peak 5 is skiing much better than sky chutes

Some big lines being skied on Peak 1 too. Sounds like a perfect place to take your friends.

If any of the discounted ticket options fall through let me know. I can probably get a 50% off voucher for you.

**SkiLyft** · 03-14-2018, 08:57 AM

*Not weather related*
But when are we ever actually talking about weather here. What the fuck is CMS doing with this? Revamping hidden valley as a “backcountry ski resort”? The fuqqq?

http://bluebirdbackcountry.com

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**viglio** · 03-14-2018, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by SkiLyft

*Not weather related*
But when are we ever actually talking about weather here. What the fuck is CMS doing with this? Revamping hidden valley as a “backcountry ski resort”? The fuqqq?

http://bluebirdbackcountry.com

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Have they actually stated HV is the intended spot? Last I had heard they did not have a location lined up/planned. They would face a TON of resistance from the local crew up here if they tried to do it in HV itself.

**SkiLyft** · 03-14-2018, 10:28 AM

No that was a guess! I am very curious as to the locations they have in mind.

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**cravenmorhead** · 03-14-2018, 10:49 AM

Seems likely that it would be one of the former resorts; I wouldn't be surprised if Geneva Basin or Berthoud would be in the hunt. Unless they have a big swath of skiable private land they're sitting on. I'm no expert, but I imagine the EIS work/permitting/etc. is easier on public lands if it's been a ski resort in the past.

**ffmedic84** · 03-14-2018, 10:49 AM

Oh shit...CB has gone Epic.
http://news.vailresorts.com/corporate/cbmr.htm

**SkiLyft** · 03-14-2018, 10:53 AM

Holy shit!! And it’s the epic local!!

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**Danno** · 03-14-2018, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by Cravenmorhead

Seems likely that it would be one of the former resorts; I wouldn't be surprised if Geneva Basin or Berthoud would be in the hunt. Unless they have a big swath of skiable private land they're sitting on. I'm no expert, but I imagine the EIS work/permitting/etc. is easier on public lands if it's been a ski resort in the past.

OTOH, places like HV and Berthoud would see HUDGE opposition from the demographic they need to appeal to, backcountry skiers (I realize that they are looking to generate new backcountry skiers, but they need existing backcountry skiers on board or it will never fly). Seems like they need to find a place that doesn't see a shitton of traffic already (like BP and HV).

**hatchgreenchile** · 03-14-2018, 11:00 AM

Damn - was really hoping they stayed out of it, they were the only big resort left.
RE: backcountry ski area - cool idea, but your options near the Front Range are quite limited. No chance it happens at the well known areas.

**ffmedic84** · 03-14-2018, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by SkiLyft

Holy shit!! And it’s the epic local!!

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Only 7 days a season but thats still enough to bring the masses. Vail employees will still have to pay $50/day too.

**cravenmorhead** · 03-14-2018, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

OTOH, places like HV and Berthoud would see HUDGE opposition from the demographic they need to appeal to, backcountry skiers (I realize that they are looking to generate new backcountry skiers, but they need existing backcountry skiers on board or it will never fly). Seems like they need to find a place that doesn't see a shitton of traffic already (like BP and HV).

Yeah that's fair. Maybe Geneva? Seems like the usual long approach keeps people out of there, and if they got approval for this it would probably solve the gate issue.

That said, I took their little survey, and it was largely focused on cost issues etc. And if they don't know how much they're charging yet, it seems like they may be in the pretty early planning stages.

**Name Redacted** · 03-14-2018, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by ffmedic84

Oh shit...CB has gone Epic.
http://news.vailresorts.com/corporate/cbmr.htm

Whoa, figured something was coming from CB.

Well, that makes our decision easy for next season. Epic Local.

**I've seen black diamonds!** · 03-14-2018, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by hatchgreenchile

RE: backcountry ski area - cool idea

What's cool about it?

**I've seen black diamonds!** · 03-14-2018, 11:25 AM

Rare low-wind day with soft(ish) alpine turns in the Indian Peaks yesterday.

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**hatchgreenchile** · 03-14-2018, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by I've seen black diamonds!

What's cool about it?

It could be a valuable experience for newbies to understand the gear, safe travel methods, rescue techniques, etc.

They didn't really share much about their vision, so lots of speculation on what a "backcountry ski area" means. My guess would be something in between Berthoud and Silverton.

**The SnowShow** · 03-14-2018, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by shredgnar

Whoa, figured something was coming from CB.

Well, that makes our decision easy for next season. Epic Local.

That did it for me. Both passes are awesome, but CB/TRide? Fucking sweet.

**summit** · 03-14-2018, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by ffmedic84

Oh shit...CB has gone Epic.
http://news.vailresorts.com/corporate/cbmr.htm

And I was so close to doing Keystone-Abasin and Loveland. Now I gotta think.

I'll have to see the small print... is this the same bullshit as Loveland where you have to buy CB lodging to use your pass?

**Name Redacted** · 03-14-2018, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by Summit

And I was so close to doing Keystone-Abasin and Loveland. Now I gotta think.

I'll have to see the small print... is this the same bullshit as Loveland where you have to buy CB lodging to use your pass?

Nope, and it is on the Epic Local. 7 days. No Blackouts. Includes Okemo and Sunapee, wherever they are.

This just threw my whole plan for a loop too.

**smmokan** · 03-14-2018, 12:16 PM

Well fuck. I'm curious to hear what GoldenBoy thinks.... it's obviously good for their economy and the resort, but it'll obviously increase crowds.

Maybe Vail can use some of their cloud-seeding funds to help out CB with some decent snow next winter.

**ffmedic84** · 03-14-2018, 12:18 PM

What does this do for Abasin and their partnership with Vail? Do you think they keep it now that almost everyone around them has jumped on board with a pass? Does Loveland go Ikon?

**PowTron** · 03-14-2018, 12:38 PM

Vail can still get fucked. IKON has much better Mountains within a days drive of CO.

**doebedoe** · 03-14-2018, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by ffmedic84

What does this do for Abasin and their partnership with Vail? Do you think they keep it now that almost everyone around them has jumped on board with a pass? Does Loveland go Ikon?

Their current agreement expires at the end of next season. We won't see any changes announced (if they come) until this time next year.

At this point, I imagine ABasin is addicted to the Vail teet and isn't going anywhere.

**Name Redacted** · 03-14-2018, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by PowTron

Vail can still get fucked. IKON has much better Mountains within a days drive of CO.

Too bad they don't have any good ones IN CO.

**Name Redacted** · 03-14-2018, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by doebedoe

Their current agreement expires at the end of next season. We won't see any changes announced (if they come) until this time next year.

At this point, I imagine ABasin is addicted to the Vail teet and isn't going anywhere.

This^^

They have skewed their focus to the restaurant/bar side of things and they gotta pay for that new lift going in this summer.

**rocca** · 03-14-2018, 01:09 PM

Failing to see why Loveland needs to do anything. Seems to me they have full lots every weekend and the Master Plan only adds 150-200 more. No way they could deal with the increase Ikon or Epic would bring.

And I hate to say it but Vail has me interested again after swearing them off years ago.