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  1. #30401
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bean View Post
    5 minutes away the trail system is a zoo. 5 hours and I’d be the only person for miles. That’s the difference.
    QFT. Why is it so hard to understand this concept?

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    You all realize there's a thread dedicated to the topic, right?

    https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...d.php?t=334452

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  3. #30403
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    Quote Originally Posted by MakersTeleMark
    At least where I Iive, not too many taking this seriously despite 3 deaths in the county this week.
    Nobody is taking it seriously. Coworkers canít even stop crowding around for no reason all day every day.

  4. #30404
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    the colorado homo
    drove 130 miles to have fun today
    will do 100 miles tomorrow or thursday
    and probably 140 on friday
    and yeah having the front range on lockdown is amazing, why can't we do this more often
    not sure if I'm riding or sking tomorrow life is full of such hard decisions god damn

  5. #30405
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bean View Post
    Nobody is taking it seriously. Coworkers canít even stop crowding around for no reason all day every day.
    Really, within my circle of friends everybody is taking it vary seriously. Maybe it is the small town thing where people feel a true sense of community and a shared responsibility to each other or maybe it is the fact that people in rural communities have less need to socialize and don't feel fish out of water just chilling by themselves.

    5 minutes away the trail system is a zoo. 5 hours and Iíd be the only person for miles. Thatís the difference.
    But there in lies the rub, the math don't work. Social distancing and vectoring aside, there simply are not enough places for everyone to go. Schools out, people are not working, the ski areas are closed. All you are doing is kicking the can down the road. You made your choices, I made mine.

    For every person that drives solo half a tank of gas from home, goes deep in the woods, eats the PB&J they brung and shits in a WAG bag (that Bean FYI), there are 100 people six deep in the SUV going to Berthoud, Marble, Fruita, the Upper C, Rifle or whatever else it may be. The the people that live in those communities are forced to either some more obscure places or they simply stay home.

    Its no secret that friction between city folk traveling to recreate and the people that call those places home is at an all time high. Most of the reasons are jingoistic townie bullshit, but some of the facts can't be ignored. In my little slice of heaven, the C Lot is literally full of shit...shut down. A popular trail system accessed though private property has been disrespected by parking shenanigans, off trail use, and flippancy towards the land owners...shut down. Berthoud is on the brink of being shut down...seriously. In short, the apple cart is upset. We have the tourists without the the industry and facilities to benefit from and service the tourists.

    So style matters. Often it is not what you do but how you do it. You can point the finger at the other guy and self justify your behavior however you want but that doesn't chance a few critical facts. One, city folk set there life up such that recreating in the mountains and beyond requires a not insignificant amount of travel that is currently not recommended. Two, many rural communities have a lot of people really struggling right now. Between the ski areas and the service industry, I'm guessing we are running about 50% unemployment with many folks not having a lot to fall back on. Three, these are uncharted times and any and all of our actions must be done with consideration for those we share the planet with. If you can't pump the brakes on life for a month or so doing pushups in the basement and watching yoga videos on YouTube perhaps take a look in mirror and think about if you are making this better or worse.

    In summary, if you chose to road trip to have fun, I don't think anybody is stopping you. Please feel the weight of the privilege. I know that if I didn't get some solo time outside in nature and a bit of adventure, I'm at risk of severe anxiety and panic attacks so I get it.

    Get out, have fun, but try to do so swiftly and silently and have the utmost respect for the residents and communities you visit.

  6. #30406
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    Well said, foggy.

  7. #30407
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foggy_Goggles View Post
    For every person that drives solo half a tank of gas from home, goes deep in the woods, eats the PB&J they brung and shits in a WAG bag (that Bean FYI), there are 100 people six deep in the SUV going to Berthoud, Marble, Fruita, the Upper C, Rifle or whatever else it may be.
    Spot on, and as frustrating as it is, we can't make one set of rules for competent people and another for all the gapers wanting to go hit some sweet backcountry now that the resorts are all shut down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foggy_Goggles View Post
    In summary, if you chose to road trip to have fun, I don't think anybody is stopping you. Please feel the weight of the privilege. I know that if I didn't get some solo time outside in nature and a bit of adventure, I'm at risk of severe anxiety and panic attacks so I get it.
    This. Thank you. Well said.

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    Seriously, folks, listen to foggy. If you want to get all lawyerly, you can find the loophole, that the shelter in place order doesn't explicitly prohibit travel to mountain trailheads, but it's a loophole. It's fairly obvious that we should all stick very close to home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bean View Post
    5 minutes away the trail system is a zoo.

    Not at 7am. We all need to adjust to the new norm.

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    If you really want to help in CO, sign up to volunteer or donate here

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  12. #30412
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    I think this is well said. Agree to disagree, put the argument of retreating to a safer place, is part of the problem, IMO. Those in China>NYC, those in Lakewood>Fraser, those is Fraser>Walden...do you see the problem. This shit is bigger than any of us. Support your local community.

    Oh...not matter where you live, have a big of style and compassion. Don't be a smug fuck and keep your fun of the social medias. Some people are redefining insensitive with their braggadocio.

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