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  1. #31226
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    Quote Originally Posted by simple View Post
    Yeah poke fun at the fake rich. I tend to think that your camper problem people are the dirt bags in shitty pickups and mini vans pulling landscape trailers. Overstuffed with walmart bags full of camping gear and canned food. The IDGAF crowd that you probably don't even notice because they are used to being poor and pitiful.

    I mean what do I know...I only spend 2 or 3 days a week cleaning up after them.

    Cheap beer, cheap drugs, cheap gas, and food stamps fuel their interest in the great outdoors.

    Poking fun at the glampers sounds like jealousy. The real dirt bags you wouldn't even approach because you are scared of them. Seeing homeless and poor people as much as I do frustrates me but I still clean up after they move on. If I don't then the piles get bigger as they think it is a community dump site. Fuck.
    The Spring Creek Fire (108,000 acres) in 2018 was started by a vagabond/homeless guy trying to heat up some food.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The SnowShow View Post
    Nailed it.

    #vanlife #camplife #coloRADo #mountainlife #sleepinunderthestars #neature #coffeeviews #campviews #mylifeisbetterthanyourvacation
    I'm signing up to buy a van can't wait it's all I think about 100k who cares, just trying to figure out how to explain it to my dad and how to bridge the purchase time and to when I get my next trust fund dispersment in may next year I never did the flat brim but I do like a nice frat boy roll to the bill of my ball cap haters gonna hate but I"m gonna be ballin

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    I'm inclined to agree with simple. The guy with the luxury sprinter isn't the big problem, it's the low and no income camper that is way more likely to be the problem. The guy without the patagucci puffy, who has the fire roaring because he's cold.
    "fuck off you asshat gaper shit for brains fucktard wanker." - Jesus Christ
    "She was tossing her bean salad with the vigor of a Drunken Pop princess so I walked out of the corner and said.... "need a hand?"" - Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by simple View Post
    Yeah poke fun at the fake rich. I tend to think that your camper problem people are the dirt bags in shitty pickups and mini vans pulling landscape trailers. Overstuffed with walmart bags full of camping gear and canned food. The IDGAF crowd that you probably don't even notice because they are used to being poor and pitiful.

    I mean what do I know...I only spend 2 or 3 days a week cleaning up after them.

    Cheap beer, cheap drugs, cheap gas, and food stamps fuel their interest in the great outdoors.

    Poking fun at the glampers sounds like jealousy. The real dirt bags you wouldn't even approach because you are scared of them. Seeing homeless and poor people as much as I do frustrates me but I still clean up after they move on. If I don't then the piles get bigger as they think it is a community dump site. Fuck.
    ^^^ This + the transient campers... not to start some other debate, but a fact that lots of trash/needle-infested "camps" out there with fire rings.
    And also hard to enforce unless you're going in with the police. I would not want to be an open space or FS ranger going into one of those camps. Although I think some (or all?) forest service may carry sidearms

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    Quote Originally Posted by simple View Post
    Yeah poke fun at the fake rich. I tend to think that your camper problem people are the dirt bags in shitty pickups and mini vans pulling landscape trailers. Overstuffed with walmart bags full of camping gear and canned food. The IDGAF crowd that you probably don't even notice because they are used to being poor and pitiful.

    I mean what do I know...I only spend 2 or 3 days a week cleaning up after them.

    Cheap beer, cheap drugs, cheap gas, and food stamps fuel their interest in the great outdoors.

    Poking fun at the glampers sounds like jealousy. The real dirt bags you wouldn't even approach because you are scared of them. Seeing homeless and poor people as much as I do frustrates me but I still clean up after they move on. If I don't then the piles get bigger as they think it is a community dump site. Fuck.
    This.

    I mean, you can poke fun of whomever, but, IMHO the outer reaches of both ends don't make good stewards, either by choice or.. whatever else.

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    It's kinda like the greasers and the socs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m104da View Post
    ^^^ This + the transient campers... not to start some other debate, but a fact that lots of trash/needle-infested "camps" out there with fire rings.
    And also hard to enforce unless you're going in with the police. I would not want to be an open space or FS ranger going into one of those camps. Although I think some (or all?) forest service may carry sidearms
    Fish Cops, at least the peace officers/LEOs, carry guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EWG View Post
    Campfires piss me off no end. There is absolutely no justification for a damn fire anywhere you camping, ever, unless you're on the verge of hypothermia. Cut that shit the fuck out unless someone's life is on the line.
    FIFY
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    I usually burn when I'm camping above treeline.
    Krummholz takes to flame quite well!

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    Am I the only one who is a little take aback when a thread other than this one or the I-70 one is at the top? I think of this forum as a little corner of Colorado weather and roads and shit, and it's weird to see others use it for its intended purpose.
    "fuck off you asshat gaper shit for brains fucktard wanker." - Jesus Christ
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    Quote Originally Posted by fastfred View Post
    I'm signing up to buy a van can't wait it's all I think about 100k who cares, just trying to figure out how to explain it to my dad and how to bridge the purchase time and to when I get my next trust fund dispersment in may next year I never did the flat brim but I do like a nice frat boy roll to the bill of my ball cap haters gonna hate but I"m gonna be ballin
    Don’t forget your Breck Local trucker baller!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The SnowShow View Post
    Don’t forget your Breck Local trucker baller!
    the chick who bought one from the ski town allstars won't give it to me

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    Colorado Weather Discussion Thread


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    Fire started at the Ice Lakes trailhead? 80% chance that it was some bro brah in a Sprinter van

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdblows View Post
    Fire started at the Ice Lakes trailhead? 80% chance that it was some bro brah in a Sprinter van
    Fuuuuuuck please tell me that Basin isn’t on fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The SnowShow View Post
    Fuuuuuuck please tell me that Basin isn’t on fire.
    It's down in the woods in the valley near the trailhead right now. 15-25 acres based on what I'm seeing on social media. Ice lakes has been absolutely slammed in the past few years, there has been some talk of permitting overnights in the area. San Juan Mountain Association counted 300+ overnight backpackers during memorial day weekend this year. They estimated that on the busiest day of the year there were over 2k people hiking. That area just can't handle that kind of abuse anymore. Illegal fires by the lakes, people shitting/camping all over the place along the trail, the drones and social media influencers abusing the lakes for a few thousands likes on the gram.... it's bad.

    There is no doubt in my mind that this fire is campfire caused. They had to rescue hikers out of the basin by helicopter and hot shot crews were on the fire quickly. Hopefully they are able to get a lot of work done tonight and tomorrow morning before the winds pick up again.

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    I hiked it this summer. Insane the number of people hiking it, and camping on that road. When I was last there some 25 years ago, it was super quiet and undiscovered.

    And that road was jammed with every kind of camper, along with Texas wheelchairs. I wouldn't indict the sprinter crowd for that one.
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    Silverton just put out a press release.

    PRESS RELEASE San Juan County, Colorado

    SAN JUAN COUNTY: The Ice Fire started today Monday October 19th just after 1pm in the South Mineral Creek area above the Ice Lakes trail head. As of 5:00 PM, the fire has burned 320 acres and US Forest Services has air and ground wildland fire crews working on the Ice Fire.

    On Monday October 19th, a wild fire broke out in the South Mineral recreation area just above the Ice Lake Trail head around 1pm. San Juan County Sheriff's Department handled an immediate evacuation of campers and hikers in the area. 23 hikers were located above the trailhead and were evacuated via helicopter.
    The US Forest service is the lead agency on this wildfire and deployed helicopters, tanker planes and a hot shot squad.

    There is no imminent threat of evacuation at this time for Silverton/ San Juan County residents. It is good to be prepared given the proximity of the Ice Fire. Silverton/San Juan County residents should familiarize themselves with the READY, SET, GO evacuation plan. This is a 3 phase plan that will be activated if an evacuation is ordered. Each step will be communicated with specific instructions for San Juan County citizens.

    Please do not stop to watch aircraft and firefighting activities as this poses a hazard for fellow travelers. Smoke from the fire will be visible on Highway 550, Silverton, Durango, and other surrounding areas and communities. Smoke will be visible for the duration of the fire. Roadside signs will be posted to alert any travelers of smoke and firefighting personnel and equipment in the area. Wildfire smoke may affect your health. For more information, please go to:
    https://www.colorado.gov/pacific/cdp...oke-and-health
    I hope 320 is a huge over estimate. My guess is the fire is burning down South Mineral Road rather than up into the Basin proper, but we'll have to see if they do an IR flyover tonight.

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    https://twitter.com/CBSDenver/status...843023360?s=20

    Some vid of conditions at CP fire. Freaking scary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danno View Post
    And that road was jammed with every kind of camper, along with Texas wheelchairs. I wouldn't indict the sprinter crowd for that one.
    Yeah, we hiked it this summer too and that road was a clusterfuck of a gongshow on top of a shitstorm.
    If it could be slept in, it was parked along that road. I think density of people was higher than my urban neighborhood.
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    That place has been featured countless times in Backpacker, Outside, etc. The secret is out. I'm sure wag bags, designated camps and permits are on the horizon.
    I still find it crazy that many people go to little ol' Silverton and congregate like that on a single trail. The San Juans are bigger than Chicago Basin, Ice Lake and Blue Lakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adrenalated View Post
    Yeah, we hiked it this summer too and that road was a clusterfuck of a gongshow on top of a shitstorm.
    If it could be slept in, it was parked along that road. I think density of people was higher than my urban neighborhood.
    Ugh awful. This state is just getting too crowded with people raping the beauty.

    Also doesn’t help when US News & World Report does their annual “Best Places to Live” and Boulder/Denver are 1/2 and CO Springs/FortC are 4/5.

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    Just waiting for the day international borders up back up for traveling freely, it'll mellow out quite a bit I'm sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hatchgreenchile View Post
    That place has been featured countless times in Backpacker, Outside, etc. The secret is out. I'm sure wag bags, designated camps and permits are on the horizon.
    I still find it crazy that many people go to little ol' Silverton and congregate like that on a single trail. The San Juans are bigger than Chicago Basin, Ice Lake and Blue Lakes.
    Down here we've just decided to sacrifice those areas for the greater good of the rest of the mountains here. That said, I want permitting and designated camps in those places asap.

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    Colorado Weather Discussion Thread

    Looks like 6”-12” for Eagle/Summit Sunday night and COLD. That should help ABasin open next week.

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