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  1. #28776
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    Rollins/Corona Pass is still covered in snow. From Winter Park, the gate was closed about 4 miles from the top at the first trestle. I did a bit of patch skiing, but it wasnít what I had hoped for. A short hike gave a view of Forest Lake bowl and it looked full an inviting. Then 2 hours of dry single track from the red gate in Frasier and a close encounter with a large moose.

    Any info on the approach from the east? I assume it is closed at the cut out.
    Last edited by timackie; 06-28-2019 at 08:01 AM.

  2. #28777
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    Then 2 hours of dry single track from the red gate in Frasier
    I'm sure you don't care and I'm sure it is no secret as I'm sure it is promoted all over other parts of the internet but...if you want continued access through the red gate it is best to not talk about the red gate.

    The situation is tenuous at best. There is no legal parking and there is access via public lands. Over the course of the last 25+ years this trailhead has been somewhat viable due to locals working behind the scenes and a tolerant land owner/ranch manager.

    Over the course of the last 5 years, there have been multiple incidents with trespass, retarded parking, disrespect for the neighbors and general entitled douchbaggery.

    My advice, take it or leave it, is park on the side roads away from the blind corner away from peoples driveways, get your bikes on and off your cars quickly and respect the easements.

    This isn't a locals/tourists thing. Recent events have actually features a clueless prominent local. That said
    Frasier
    ...don't do that. People hate that.

  3. #28778
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    The Red Gate gets mentioned on Facebook by the Headwaters Trail Alliance. If it's of such questionable status that it should be kept quiet, they don't seem to know it.
    "fuck off you asshat gaper shit for brains fucktard wanker." - Jesus Christ
    "She was tossing her bean salad with the vigor of a Drunken Pop princess so I walked out of the corner and said.... "need a hand?"" - Odin
    "I'd eat a bag of Dicks and wash it down with a Coke any day." - iceman

  4. #28779
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foggy_Goggles View Post
    That said ...don't do that. People hate that.

  5. #28780
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danno View Post
    Headwaters Trail Alliance
    Fuck Them in There Stupid Assess!!!!

    Clear enough? Self entitled bunch of public funded but not publicly accountable grandstanders that love to have a volunteer work day to get one turnpike done just to have there picture in the paper. Go read there 100+ commissioned mission document/ manifesto full of excuses about what they can't get done. They are on thin ice. I hope the county commissioners pull there funding and we handle public land advocacy at the government level.

    Bored? Do me a favor, ask on there Facebook Page where you are supposed to park. Maybe start with "I see that there is no parking on County Roads. I heard about an incident when the Sheriff was giving ticket?"

  6. #28781
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    Wait? I just looked at their page. https://www.facebook.com/pg/Headwate...=page_internal Is the public access currently closed and yet Timmie is posting about riding it?

    To be clear, my bitch with the HTA Alliance is not about the Red Gate, it is about things like how much their budget, their attitude about historical motorized use, their god complex regarding system/non-system trails, and their general attitude and closed mindedness.

    Many people don't know that we pay a .3% sales tax in Grand County that goes toward public lands. I don't think it is well spent.

  7. #28782
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    Skied the bowl off trail ridge road this morning and it was pretty good. Light freeze overnight above 11,500' or so, and no issues with postholing/boot penetration below that. Left the parking lot around 7:30. It was a little firm up top, perfect half way down and a little soft at the bottom. There is a little bit of suncupping, but not enough to interfere with skiing yet.

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  8. #28783
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    ^^^nice.

  9. #28784
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    [QUOTE=Foggy_Goggles;5702259]Wait? I just looked at their page. https://www.facebook.com/pg/Headwate...=page_internal Is the public access currently closed and yet Timmie is posting about riding it?

    Whoa. Pardon me.

    I rember years ago, when I skied more in the spring, there was a thread that shared snow and road conditions for those trying to get after it. Not sure if it was on the main board here at TGR or on teletips, but I lost track of it. A ski partner mentioned this thread recently and I thought I'd try to inforn someone's weekend planning.

    Pardon my fat fingers on a small phone with a not so intelegent AI spell checker for mucking up the name of your fine town. I need a special dialing wand.

    Pardon me for spilling the beans on your secret stash. My sister lives near the place whose name we do not speak and her neighbors were kind enough to show me around. I've never parked there, but can see the potential for parking problems.

    As to Timmie's most excelent ride yesterday, the trail was open, dry and in excelent condition. Just a few muddy spots in the wallows that had well placed dead branches to minimize the damage. I don't know a thing about Headwaters Trail Alliance, but if they closed the trail until June 26 because of mud as their Facebook suggests, and placed timbers at the creek crossings, kudos to them.

  10. #28785
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    Colorado Weather Discussion Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by timackie View Post
    My sister lives near the place whose name we do not speak and her neighbors were kind enough to show me around.
    Tits or GTFO

  11. #28786
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    Iíll ask.

  12. #28787
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    Thanks for respecting the closures. It is not a secret stash. We don't have those anymore. All trails are either on the map (like Idlewild), de-commissioned (which the HTA advocates), or covered in downed timber and beyond the the abilities for users to maintain.

    Ride the trails, we need users. More specifically, we need users who are aware of the access and maintenance challenges and are willing to be part of the solution not the problem. That's were we are at with Red Gate access. Too many uneducated users (local and tourist) who believe it is there right to access the WT Ranch, illegally park on public roads, and don't treat the neighborhood with respect (retarded dog parties, gratuitous weed smoking and beer drinking and generally treating it like a festival).

    Do me a kindness and ask your sister to familiarize herself with the issues (if she has not already) and try to undertake the thankless task of talking to people she sees at the trailhead and impress upon them both these simple requests and just now tenuous the situation is.

    Thanks

  13. #28788
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    After spending a shitload of time in the mountains this past month, I have to say I fucking love years like this. Deep snowpack all spring, lots of moisture, lush green valleys, healthy rivers and snowpacked peaks in July! This spring/early summer has been just fucking great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The SnowShow View Post
    After spending a shitload of time in the mountains this past month, I have to say I fucking love years like this. Deep snowpack all spring, lots of moisture, lush green valleys, healthy rivers and snowpacked peaks in July! This spring/early summer has been just fucking great.
    Everywhere in the mountains is incredibly beautiful right now.
    Quote Originally Posted by Norseman View Post
    All ye punterz! Leave thine stupid heavy skis in the past, or at least in the resort category, for the age of lightweight pussy sticks is upon us! Behold! Keep up with the randocommandos on their carbon blades of shortness! Break thine tibias into spiral splinters with pintech extravagance!

  15. #28790
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    Quote Originally Posted by adrenalated View Post
    Everywhere in the mountains is incredibly beautiful right now.
    And the shit to the west of it is so lush. Spent weekend up by State Bridge which is usually dusty and brown. Looked like fern gully.

  16. #28791
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    Boulder hiking has been prime too.
    "fuck off you asshat gaper shit for brains fucktard wanker." - Jesus Christ
    "She was tossing her bean salad with the vigor of a Drunken Pop princess so I walked out of the corner and said.... "need a hand?"" - Odin
    "I'd eat a bag of Dicks and wash it down with a Coke any day." - iceman

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    Heading to Telluride/Ouray area tomorrow afternoon. Any suggestions for lesser-know camping spots that might be open? That is, if any exist anymore. I am sure it is going to be a shit show finding camping with the holiday weekend, but thought I'd see if anyone has suggestions.

  18. #28793
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    Still almost 2k skiable vert in Sundance Bowl off Trail Ridge. Suncups getting bigger, but still worth it.

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  19. #28794
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    nice! what time did u hit it?
    F-R-O-double-G

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    About 7:30 am.

  21. #28796
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    Quote Originally Posted by mt_wilson View Post
    Was up there today. Really good! The fresh snow really smoothed everything out. July 4th for sure!


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    serious crowd at abasin for the open on questionable snow, may give the WROD experience a run for its money. I suspect many will say that they should have gone last weekend for summer snow and skipped today.

  22. #28797
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    Turned around halfway up hwy 6 at 815am. Place was a fuckin zoo. I gave myself a 0% chance of skiing. Independence day is Halloween with red white and blue. Would it be better without teh EPICs? Certainly.
    I hope they raise prices and keep crowds minimal next year. Provide a better experience for those that want it. Cuz I need to relive my 20s.

    Shoulda got up early and hiked something instaworthy instead. Oh well, lesson learned.
    Anyway. The dirt is nice in Vail Valley.
    Braaap
    the drugs made me realize it's not about the drugs

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    Quote Originally Posted by wkd-rdr View Post
    Turned around halfway up hwy 6 at 815am. Place was a fuckin zoo. I gave myself a 0% chance of skiing. Independence day is Halloween with red white and blue. Would it be better without teh EPICs? Certainly.
    I hope they raise prices and keep crowds minimal next year. Provide a better experience for those that want it. Cuz I need to relive my 20s.

    Shoulda got up early and hiked something instaworthy instead. Oh well, lesson learned.
    Anyway. The dirt is nice in Vail Valley.
    Braaap

    that was a good decision, currently around noon; two lines are going up the mountain from all those who skied to the bottom and all those still coming. i'm not an abasin regular but I've seen peak season lines shorter at breck and vail.

  24. #28799
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    My friend and I bailed on A-Basin at 8 after sitting in dead stopped traffic at the top of Loveland Pass. Had an even better day hiking and skiing the pass (lots of good patch skiing) and grilling. Canít imagine how crowded ABasin must have been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The SnowShow View Post
    My friend and I bailed on A-Basin at 8 after sitting in dead stopped traffic at the top of Loveland Pass. Had an even better day hiking and skiing the pass (lots of good patch skiing) and grilling. Can’t imagine how crowded ABasin must have been.
    Reports were that it was insanity. 3.5 hrs to get to the top. Had friends turn around at 7:15am. Lines worse than opening day. Great way to send off the Epic pass. Buh bye!

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