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    https://www.tri-cityherald.com/sports/outdoors/art...

    https://www.tri-cityherald.com/sports/outdoors/article31754838.html
    https://flatheadbeacon.com/2016/02/01/conservation-groups-counter-kootenai-snowmobile-lawsuit/

    To be fair, the majority of...
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    You didn't ask for legal motions filed to get...

    You didn't ask for legal motions filed to get more access. You asked for any evidence that snowmobilers want more access. I provided it. I'm not aware of any legal actions yet. We'll see what happens...
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    Re snowmobilers not asking for more access, just...

    Re snowmobilers not asking for more access, just existing access, from the comments to the FS proposal:
    https://cara.ecosystem-management.org/Public/DownloadCommentFile?dmdId=FSPLT3_2438882 see...
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    Of your list--3 are ski resorts and one is a...

    Of your list--3 are ski resorts and one is a Wilderness, so it's a pretty short list and a fraction of the list of designated, groomed snowmobile trails in addition to the huge amount of ungroomed...
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    The snowmobile community has been a strong...

    The snowmobile community has been a strong advocate for increased access in many places for many years. In the case of the TNF this hasn't been the case--because virtually all the public land outside...
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    First place I toured in the Sierra was in to...

    First place I toured in the Sierra was in to Round Valley. 3 feet of fresh. I was first on the trail, coming from Sacramento. After a while I look back see a couple of guys. I stop. They stop. I...
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    Like I said before--I don't know enough to...

    Like I said before--I don't know enough to comment on the environmental issue to comment on that--I'm not making an environmental argument other than quiet.

    As far as people building fires where...
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    Kidwoo and Tahoe BC--yes there are quiet places...

    Kidwoo and Tahoe BC--yes there are quiet places to ski, for now. The point is that snowmobilers want to get access to those quiet places.

    As far as "entitlement" and "favoritism"--that is the ad...
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    That Truckee Sun article was the most one sided...

    That Truckee Sun article was the most one sided piece of "journalism" presented as a news piece that I've ever seen. Not even a pretense of presenting both sides of the issue. I see two issues--the...
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    I felt sorry for the out-of-shape folks hiking up...

    I felt sorry for the out-of-shape folks hiking up Shirley Canyon to catch the tram down who clearly were not going to make the last tram.
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    Is that a new burger and brew place?

    Is that a new burger and brew place?
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    If she's looking for food there's a lot more...

    If she's looking for food there's a lot more small dogs in Nevada County than in Sierra County.
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    snow above 8K tomorrow, or so the NWS says.

    snow above 8K tomorrow, or so the NWS says.
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    Golly gee, that sure is some weird weather we've...

    Golly gee, that sure is some weird weather we've been having, doncha know.
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    Slide Mtn is on the NWS page

    Slide Mtn is on the NWS page
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    NWS still has mountain top readings but they...

    NWS still has mountain top readings but they moved it. Go to the Reno office forecast https://www.weather.gov/rev/
    Click on a town in the map which will show you the forecast for the week at that...
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    KT done after this weekend, per squaw web site.

    KT done after this weekend, per squaw web site.
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    When I was there monday reverse traverse was open...

    When I was there monday reverse traverse was open with the lift closed. I'm guessing it's a money/manpower/lack of demand issue, same with Granite.
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    FS doesn't sound too pleased about SVAM gondola...

    FS doesn't sound too pleased about SVAM gondola in their environmental assessment. Interesting summary with a map showing a couple of alternate alignments. Of course, they could say the gondola will...
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    Stay on edges on the runouts.

    Stay on edges on the runouts.
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    I was addressing the issue of why AM might not be...

    I was addressing the issue of why AM might not be skiable much longer even if KSL wanted to keep it open. Or whatever they call themselves these days.

    For those planning to ski AM this...
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    Based on current conditions I suspect that...

    Based on current conditions I suspect that getting to the bottom at AM will be problematic in May and that SV will be upper mountain only. Or not.
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    FWIW the exit from High T is a less of a rock...

    FWIW the exit from High T is a less of a rock and bushes maze than the exit from Estelle. When I was at AM 2 days ago the traverse line out South Face of Sherwood went across hard to miss rocks in...
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    In the spring some of the steep north facing...

    In the spring some of the steep north facing pitches will open late or not at all due to hard conditions. Same for Scott Chute, Keyhole at AM. Depends what you're looking for--steep bumps, Squaw....
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    It didn't take long for the sun to do its work on...

    It didn't take long for the sun to do its work on the usual aspects. But very very nice before that.
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    Friend of mine took his skis in for a tune in...

    Friend of mine took his skis in for a tune in March one year before heading for Alaska. He took them to the place he always uses and since it was spring in California they gave him a spring...
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    I might tune a pair of skis once a year at most,...

    I might tune a pair of skis once a year at most, depending. My year old powder skis have never been tuned.
    I do my own core shots, edges and wax. The core shot repairs look rough but they work. ...
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    The prices I quoted were all for a full...

    The prices I quoted were all for a full tune--minor ptex repair, flatten and structure the base (stone grind), set and sharpen edges, and wax.
    I've forgotten the name of the structure I like but...
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    welcome to The Golden $tate and what do you...

    welcome to The Golden $tate
    and what do you think of the price of gas around here?
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    Looks like $80 for a full tune. The $120 is for...

    Looks like $80 for a full tune. The $120 is for flourinated wax and more extensive ptex repair. Start Haus charges $100 for a basic tune, which I consider to be minor ptex repair, base stone grind,...
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    Retiring to San Juan Capistrano. Why am I not...

    Retiring to San Juan Capistrano. Why am I not surprised? I suppose he will still have a ski house somewhere but he makes it clear he never was a local.
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    what do you need?

    what do you need?
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    Hight T and South Face of Sherwood at AM were...

    Hight T and South Face of Sherwood at AM were excellent yesterday once things softened 11ish. Real corn--the kind you don't leave tracks in. Not much time left for Sherwood though.
    It's amazing how...
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    Hear, hear! But keep in mind there are people...

    Hear, hear! But keep in mind there are people around here who will ski on one flake.
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    Friend and I were skiing down from Tinker Knob...

    Friend and I were skiing down from Tinker Knob one 4th of July when his very large dog knocked him head first into a tree well. It is very important when skiing in trees to be within sight of a...
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    Mountain folk-- 230948 Mountain folk? ...

    Mountain folk--

    230948

    Mountain folk?

    230949
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    Anyone can start any thread they want. Anyone can...

    Anyone can start any thread they want. Anyone can post whatever they want in whatever thread they want. People will vote for separate or combined threads with their fingers.
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    Alpine has been getting stuff open a lot faster...

    Alpine has been getting stuff open a lot faster than Squaw the last 2 years--same ownership, different mountain management.
    I was told by an employee that there have been layoffs at Squaw this year,...
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    We figured late season, lousy (good) weather, got...

    We figured late season, lousy (good) weather, got a nice leisurely start and had to park at Deer Park. Line on Summit was big but not ginormous. Snow was good but not bottomless, especially on...
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    Sugar Bowl was bombing this morning. Raining hard...

    Sugar Bowl was bombing this morning. Raining hard at 6K.
    From the NWS storm warning:
    ...WINTER STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 5 AM PDT FRIDAY
    ABOVE 6500 FEET...

    * WHAT...Heavy snow...
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    NASTAR is off Goldcoast FWIW. I have no idea if...

    NASTAR is off Goldcoast FWIW. I have no idea if there's a backup plan if upper mtn closed. I doubt it will be crowded. OTOH Alpine is always less crowded, unless SV is closed for body search. With...
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    There are a couple of good stories in Squallywood...

    There are a couple of good stories in Squallywood about huck burials--one in the fingers, one off adrenaline. Some years ago after a big dump they found a dead snowboarder at Sugar Bowl buried at...
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    Sherwood traditionally has been open fairly early...

    Sherwood traditionally has been open fairly early in the season most years. It's prime powder skiing right after a storm and corn in the spring--White Wolf would offer the same but not a reliable...
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    Are the current gold price and silver price the...

    Are the current gold price and silver price the mid season price? My gold senior pass bought last March was 699. No more senior discount (that's ok; we have all the money). The biggest hits are...
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    I got the email for 18-19 Squaw pass. Looks like...

    I got the email for 18-19 Squaw pass. Looks like the IKON pass is the only pass offered--base and full. No SVAM only passes. So big price jump which will be worth it only if you travel to an IKON...
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    Classic terrain trap--a whole roof load of snow...

    Classic terrain trap--a whole roof load of snow piles up at the drip line.
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    Steel roofs should be illegal in the Sierra...

    Steel roofs should be illegal in the Sierra unless snow brakes are installed. (Does anyone know if snow brakes are effective with the snow loads we get around here? I know a couple of roofs in...
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    [QUOTE=gone2alpine;5276969] Lift ops are...

    Lift ops are disposable. They probably also have to promise not to sue if they get blown up.
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    They've had some good folks managing the maze at...

    They've had some good folks managing the maze at Summit. The problems on that lift and most lifts at Squaw and Alpine are before you get to the maze. I had no idea where to go to wait for KT...
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    While people are the underlying problem, the...

    While people are the underlying problem, the resort could do a better job of managing the people. Like longer rope lines and mazes to keep the lines from growing from the side. More lift line...
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