Countachs carve groomers better, much more energy from turn to turn and the tighter radius is more inspiring. The DW is better at sliding and smearing turns, while having way more grip than it should...

I have extensive time in LCC on the PB&J, DW, commander 98 and now about a dozen days on the new Countach.

The Countach is THE ski for what you're talking about. Much better float in untracked...

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Never got on the canoe-rocker 2017s, but my 2019 asym-fat-goat-tour-core variety are my favorite skis of all time.

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What length BGs? My asym C&Ds turn super quickly for a 189. If I were on the 184 they would absolutely shred tight trees.

At 5'11" 180 I could not imagine going shorter than 190 for skiing the DW in pow. Had mine mounted at the rearmost triangle and deep fresh (and funky setup wind affected fresh) were far and away the...

You gotta have them all. Skiing in Utah my skinniest is 98mm these days, but if I move somewhere with longer dry spells I would certainly entertain a dedicated groomer zoomer. It's just easier on...

I'm gonna pass on both of these, already bought two new pairs of skis this year so can't justify it, but someone should ski these things!

Saving up for some HL swallowtails in the fall.
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Weight is probably different too then eh? The red pair I have are 1950g per ski. "Pure carbon + nano" on the topsheet. Use these as touring skis so looking for around 2000g. My blue pure 3's were...

Any DPS historians know if the black topsheet, bamboo sidewall lotus 120s have the same topsheet delam/carbon splinter issues as the red topsheet black sidewall version? Same sidecut, length, both...

The countach is essentially a commander that you can ski slow. I haven't found the top end of either ski (mere mortal on freeheel gear), but the commander requires more speed to come to life. The...

Depends on the generation of wrenegade. The 2019 Wren 96s I had were dead easy to ski. Very stable but never felt demanding. The countach actually requires an active pilot, you are much more locked...

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Yeah at that weight they weigh the same as my 2019 190 deathwishes and I would be looking to use them for inbounds quite a bit.

Love to see a large tele quiver!! Gotta know your review on the WNDRs once you get some more time on them.

Been using DWs as a DD for 5 seasons now, and have always wished they were slightly more directional/better in untracked. I sense a Countach in my future.

Have my DW mounted at the rear most triangle (-2) per Moment's rec for a directional tele skier. Never had any issues with hookyness. I think anywhere within the triangles is a safe bet.

Shit I think I need this. Daily drive the deathwish but have been pining for something more directional. Not nessecarily chargey, but something with a more traditional mount. These might be the...

Had wren 96's in the skinny slot for 5 seasons. They are a super fun ski but lack edge grip on any kind of firm snow. Newer metal versions might be different. Switched to commander 98s and my edge...

Do we think those comments on the vital 100 vs 98 apply to intention 110 vs 108? Initially I was intrigued by the more directional mount of the 108, but the shorter radius makes me hesitate. For me...

Bumping this up. Older models are on discount on WNDRs "last call" section of their site. Anyone skied the intention 110 as well as the Deathwish? My 2019 deathwishes are only 2000g/ski in 190cm,...

Agreed that OR generally makes pretty well thought out gear. I would own more of their stuff if the colors weren't so hideous though...

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Picked these up from the voile discount room. Prototype reverse/reverse skis. One of two pairs made, at least a decade old. 193cm, 139mm underfoot. Weigh in at 2100g/ski. Truly zero...

I think it is the sidecut more than the camber personally. For a 106mm ski, a 140 tip is pretty huge. I skied my regular superchargers for years but they were just a bit hooky in certain situations...

I have the 98s in this slot. Got them in the middle of a 900 inch winter so they didn't see much "low tide," but were fun the days I did have them out. This season will be a better test. I'm sure the...

You're right I am being dramatic tbh. Go skiing with your friends.

But this is what made them SO GOOD. It is like Cy wrote in his article about the Ghost Train; 10X underfoot do everything skis are boring. Give use the specialized, superlative skis that big...

I think it has way less to do with what skiers in one region want vs skiers in another region, and way more to do with the fact that ON3P updates their skis every two seasons, regardless of whether...

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Cease and Desists got the call this week for me, I think they are the pinnacle and refinement of everything the pontoon, pon2oon, megawatt and even lotus 120 are. Directional powder pintails. The C&D...

I work at a ritzy ski lodge and handle luggage for folks including their skis. It is incredible how many Peak skis I see compared to how new/small they are. Stockli still has a good grip on the rich...

Yeah the older shape has way less sidecut but with so much more tip rocker and a softer flex they are super maneuverable. Skiing 190/189cm lengths. Got my red ones from Megastoke. I can't stand the...

I picked up some 2010/11 vintage DPS Lotus 120s this season. Got then to replace some 2013 blue 120s that bit the dust. I might like the older ones even better. Better flex, lighter, but not as...

Non-ti, I always wanted to try the 96ti, could also have been the ticket for me, but the reduced tip rocker/splay of the commanders was calling my name. If the 96ti was still made or more common to...

This. I have over 100 days on Wren 96's and they are a directional soft snow shape in a hard snow width. As soon as the tune gets knocked down they are downright scary on true hardpack. Even when...

Like some others said, pretty impossible combo to have, but I'll throw my vote in for commander 98s.

I just picked up a pair of 188s from gear swap and have a few days on them now. If you're...

I like your theory KC. Too many/too much overlap for me personally but it is well thought out. I feel exactly the same way about skis 100-110. They are quiver killers. I want my low tide skis to be...

Just here to say I use releasable pole straps and have no idea why they are not the standard.

Yet another epic day today on my Cease and Desists. Two+ feet at Alta, delayed road opening so several untracked laps. They are the perfect inbounds pow ski for me. Enough float for the deepest of...

I am referring to the purple topsheet, pure3 spoon model, looks like 2017ish? Also looks like they haven't changed it since which is why I said most current. I checked out the weights, didn't realize...

What is the collective's thoughts on the current model of Lotus 138's? II have a line on a pair of 192s with the dark purple topsheets for a decent price. Especially looking for comments vs HLc132....

I tried the new Voile TTS today and it is far and away the best TTS I have skied. My previous TTS comments were predicated on the currently available cartridges, but the new cartridge they developed...

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I have at least a hundred days on Meidjo 2.1s/3.0s in the backcountry and have never had an issue. Granted that is mostly skiing soft snow in a more conservative style than inbounds, but the bindings...

Voile's new binding is using a toe made by Plum, and standard travel cartridges. I ski the red "long soft" carts on the moonlight TTS setup and they do allow you to go pretty low, however there is...

I think progressively mounted pow skis are stupid. If you are just trying to make some fun turns in the deep, you don't need a -4cm mount and a twin tip. Yes you can ski those skis in deep snow and...

Looks the same as any other tts binding... not enough spring travel and heavier than a meidjo or lynx.

Were you releasing going switch? The brakes are not nearly robust enough to withstand a switch release. It immediately grenades the plastic toe plate cover and plastic bit that holds the brakes down....

I think loads of people will agree with that the old shapes had a better sidecut profile. The current supercharger shape wants to hook up into a turn way to easily. I love the way they float in...

lol you're the one responsible for putting your skis in the highway...

7even skis in SLC is really good at repairing base/edge delams. They can fix just about anything for a price. Sorry about...