While you are 100% correct I would expect the Wildernazis to pull a video like that out as proof that Mtn Bikers are all about killing Baby Jeebus and raping the holy mother earth.

I am guessing that they count every foot of any trail that they might have had any input on, however minor.

The local Copper City trail project here being a good example. The local groups have...

SWMMBA has been growing and raising money here in MT. They remain affiliated with IMBA, at least for now.

They are active in access issues and are just finishing up a 17+ mile network of really...

For those who have used Live Frees link and didn't get it (like me). It will download a PDF containing all the info, most likely to your Downloads folder.

Unfortunately, a lot of truth here. The way to work the system is to work within the system. If that means finding our own politicians then that is what it will take.

Touche. Nice photos in the other thread. Where at?

Thank you Sister Obvious. Welcome back or something.

When someone declares an argument to be pointless and says they are done I usually take them at their word.

That is the stupidest thing I have ever read and I keep reading it because schmucks like you keep posting it as if it isn't just another worthless opinion and nothing more.

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And as a side benefit, they might get a lot of soured Mountain Bikers to once again support their efforts.

Somehow I think you are serious.

There is no possibility of compromise or support. Those same "conservationists" have made that abundantly clear time and again both with words and with actions.
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https://www.sierraclub.org/sierra/do-bikes-belong-wilderness-areas

Warning.

Looooooooong.

I understand and respectfully disagree. I have lost way too much access in Montana to ever be willing to compromise although the STC does so quite a bit and I will just have to live with that.


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No wonder you fucking lost.

The bitch of it is the SWMMBA is closely associated with IMBA. They have done a lot of good work on access advocacy as well as creating new trails.
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I stopped supporting IMBA about 7 years ago when it became clear they wouldn't fight for access.

Fuck them.