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    The boot/skier equation always depends on skier...

    The boot/skier equation always depends on skier mass and style, but at 5'8" and 170 lbs I found it skied fine with no power strap and top buckle medium tight. The flex is more progressive, the boot...
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    No. The stance on the Hawx Ultra XTD is right on...

    No. The stance on the Hawx Ultra XTD is right on for me, but I haven't quite found the sweet spot with the Tour Pro. I have the chip on 13 degrees and it's not quite enough, but I don't really want...
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    Durability has been great, the Grilmid used in...

    Durability has been great, the Grilmid used in the Ultra XTD is quite tough (less damage to the heel and toe than first gen Zero G Guide Pro or Lange XT Free 130 from alpine bindings, no problems...
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    I wear a 26.5 in both current boots, but consider...

    I wear a 26.5 in both current boots, but consider them different categories. For spring and summer skiing, it's definitely the Backland Carbon.

    I would wear a 26.5 in the 2020 Hawx Ultra XTD, but...
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    Yes, we do that as a matter of course, applying...

    Yes, we do that as a matter of course, applying self-adhesive bootfitting foam at pressure points before putting on your sock and heat molding. Thicker/denser foam = more pressure, but there is still...
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    The heat moldable shells on the Hawx Ultra XTD...

    The heat moldable shells on the Hawx Ultra XTD and S/Lab MTN work well for standard width increases, i.e. 4-6mm in the forefoot and somewhat less well for medial midfoot issues, but heat molding...
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    Memory Fit only gets bigger where there is...

    Memory Fit only gets bigger where there is pressure - if your ankle and heel are thin, it won't really move. Pad your forefoot where width is an issue and cook the entire shell as intended. Buckle...
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    This one: ...

    This one:

    https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php/323387-Making-the-atomic-Hawx-XTD-fit-Marker-Sole-ID-bindings
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    Hawx Ultra XTD and Marker SoleID bindings are the...

    Hawx Ultra XTD and Marker SoleID bindings are the combination you are thinking of, I believe. Confirmed by two of our shops, Marker reps, and others on this board - there is a thread somewhere where...
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    Not personally, during the Dual years I've been...

    Not personally, during the Dual years I've been strictly a Salomon/Atomic/Dynafit guy and I haven't worked as a shop tech for decades. Why do you ask?
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    According to Look, Dual/WTR = Yes, AW = No.

    According to Look, Dual/WTR = Yes, AW = No.
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    I think you'll get better results if you heat...

    I think you'll get better results if you heat mold the shell first with cold liners, then do the liners separately.
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    Since you are probably the guy who orders the...

    Since you are probably the guy who orders the materials, how many options does EMS Grivory offer in "stock" Grilamid, or do you do custom formulas depending on the boot?
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    Approximately the same time and temp and the same...

    Approximately the same time and temp and the same press; I was able to get 5mm way easier with the 120. The regular Hawx Ultra 130 and 110 punch like warm putty and you need to be judicious about how...
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    Yes, I have punched both for length and the...

    Yes, I have punched both for length and the shells are different.
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    The Hawx Ultra 130 XTD is tough to punch more...

    The Hawx Ultra 130 XTD is tough to punch more than 4-5mm in length but the 120 Ultra XTD and all of the alpine Hawx Ultras punch quite easily up to 8-9mm. The Grilamid used in the 130 XTD is tougher...
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    No power strap at all and both top buckles undone...

    No power strap at all and both top buckles undone (lower one in the stainless clip).
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    Atomic delivers!

    Atomic delivers!
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    My bad - misread the diagram - the toe height...

    My bad - misread the diagram - the toe height spec is 28mm plus or minus 3mm. GripWalk makes the effective toe shape "thinner" by adjusting the height and angle of the AFD pad. Heel is less of a...
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    Not exactly. The ISO 9523 specs are very broad...

    Not exactly. The ISO 9523 specs are very broad (for instance, the toe height can range from 23mm to 33mm) and the sole can have a smooth AFD pad but doesn't have to. The GripWalk specs fall within...
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    It also has to do with AFD pad placement and...

    It also has to do with AFD pad placement and angle relative to toepiece AFD. As I've said before, the boot and binding makers need to get together and agree on some standards, then produce some...
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    Our techs in two different stores mounted Griffon...

    Our techs in two different stores mounted Griffon Sole.ID bindings with Hawx Ultra 130 XTD's and found there was insuffient toe height (meaning the AFD didn't go low enough) for the combination to...
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    Yes, Atlas Nitrile gardening gloves FTW. Unless...

    Yes, Atlas Nitrile gardening gloves FTW. Unless you have connections and can land some of the black and orange Atomic ones.
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    Easy. I go 8-9 minutes at 235 F. in a convection...

    Easy. I go 8-9 minutes at 235 F. in a convection oven with liners out. Stand on a hard and flat surface while they cool, don't walk around or flex the boots continually, just stand there with a...
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    Straight off the shelf that's true, but the MTN...

    Straight off the shelf that's true, but the MTN Lab is super easy to punch for extra width in the toe box.
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    They are both excellent boots. MTN Explore =...

    They are both excellent boots.

    MTN Explore = better range of motion, wider heel, easier to put on/take off, simple walk mode mechanism and minimal fiddling during transition
    Hawx Ultra XTD =...
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    20mm for a touring boot is fine.

    20mm for a touring boot is fine.
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    If you are replacing the Kryptons and skiing...

    If you are replacing the Kryptons and skiing everything in the new boots (possibly touring a bit as well) then the Hawx Ultra XTD.

    If you are keeping the Kryptons as a resort boot and touring only...
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    You mean by following the standard Memory Fit...

    You mean by following the standard Memory Fit procedure? Pretty much none.
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    I think it's usually at least partially an...

    I think it's usually at least partially an economic decision. Also a new boot with a layer of soft carpet foam on the inside will feel better out of the box than a full closed cell EVA liner that...
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    It's not so simple, there are "levels" of...

    It's not so simple, there are "levels" of Intuition liners. Scarpa Intuition and Dalbello ID liners are full Intuitions (meaning all closed cell Intuition foam) with tweaks they spec when ordering....
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    Never tried it, we don't have Fischer vacuum...

    Never tried it, we don't have Fischer vacuum stuff. Let us know how it goes.
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    Not Lee, but I look kinda like him and am also...

    Not Lee, but I look kinda like him and am also obsessed with ski boots. Use a convection oven like the shops do, around 225 F. for 8-9 minutes (Atomic says 6 at the pre-set temp of their oven, around...
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    The 120 has a regular lasted liner with layers of...

    The 120 has a regular lasted liner with layers of both standard and closed cell EVA foam. The 130 has a very thin Palau liner designed to save weight, which makes the boot feel roomier. FWIW, the 130...
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    The 130. I consider the heel pocket of the Ultra...

    The 130. I consider the heel pocket of the Ultra 130 XTD with stock liner to be average in volume; it's fine on my foot. It's snugger than the 100mm Lange or the MTN Lab in the heel and midfoot....
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    I was told they planned to use stiffer material...

    I was told they planned to use stiffer material in the front of the tongue and in the sole plus add a bit of thickness in the midfoot in the production liner.

    As far as I can tell, the stiffer...
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    Yes, it would be nice if they stayed open. In the...

    Yes, it would be nice if they stayed open. In the meantime I leave the bales out of the ladders completely (or just hook the lower one in the silver clip) and pull my pants over them to keep them...
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    Haven't seen a 120 XTD, but the fit should be...

    Haven't seen a 120 XTD, but the fit should be identical - and the PU cuff may have a more progressive flex. Let us know.
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    I'm in a 26.5 in both boots. The Hawx Ultra XTD...

    I'm in a 26.5 in both boots. The Hawx Ultra XTD is very slightly longer and slightly higher in volume, you should take the same size.
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    Do you consider a "normal" size to be the...

    Do you consider a "normal" size to be the Mondopoint size you measure? Just because that's what your foot measures doesn't mean you have to ski that size boot. For three different skiers with the...
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    It is what it is. Forefoot shape (like a blunt,...

    It is what it is. Forefoot shape (like a blunt, square shape in a pointed shell) can have an effect, as can heel spurs, etc. Normally I would expect someone who measures out at a 27.5 on a Brannock...
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    Take my example with a grain of salt (I have no...

    Take my example with a grain of salt (I have no idea what sort of fit you are used to) but I measure out at 27.6 on a Brannock and have the 26.5 Ultra XTD. Definitely touching the toes on both feet...
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    Assuming you have good ankle and heel hold and...

    Assuming you have good ankle and heel hold and are using a decent footbed, most experienced skiers want to be "just barely touching the front" in a new boot. As for punching the toe, you can almost...
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    Almost a carbon copy of yours, Lee, with slightly...

    Almost a carbon copy of yours, Lee, with slightly longer toes.

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    Article has been updated, though as Lee says, the...

    Article has been updated, though as Lee says, the playing field in boot/binding compatibility changes constantly.

    Here's my XTD review if anyone is interested in a counterpoint:
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    It means the binding manufacturer/distributor...

    It means the binding manufacturer/distributor will back up the retailer in the event of a law suit involving that combination of products.
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    That's exactly what I'm doing.

    That's exactly what I'm doing.
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    The evo article that Lee links to in his review...

    The evo article that Lee links to in his review was from last fall; in the meantime a few things have changed. GripWalk soles are now "officially" compatible with Sole.ID, "AAA" Tyrolia series...
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    A couple more thoughts on the Hawx Ultra 130 XTD....

    A couple more thoughts on the Hawx Ultra 130 XTD. For those who find the flex too abrupt or "not progressive" enough, try skiing it without the 50mm power strap (this also drops the weight by about...
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    Lee, the boot designer/product manager is Matt,...

    Lee, the boot designer/product manager is Matt, not Max, Manser. Great review, though.
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