^ they sold.

thank you to whoever pulled the trigger and saved me from myself.
phew.

last winter i destroyed an edge on my OLD 191BG tours.
dumb stump.

i need one of you queens to talk me off that factory find 187 woodsman as a new non-deep touring rig? 599? dang.

would...

Strong sticker game.

"posting for the husband"

suspicious.
I wonder if he knows about the posting.

Call the factory - customer service is A+ and they may have ideas.

As depth and density change, I think you'll be pleased with how your view of the CD expands. They really are a great stick, incredibly versatile in a lot of soft snow, terrain, and pitch conditions....

Refined? Are the PF's not the smoothest and most elegant ride in town? My girls are a pair of shimmering sophisticants: Unmatched in their form, their manners, their majestic grace.

Yeah you...

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what

^ Very interesting. I never thought about C&D performance in these type conditions, based on their taper and shape.

On a recent tour we skied a line with something similar: wind effected...

what camo? I only see a boot. a red one (nice).

awesome shot!

+1. Glad I already have C&D, or I would be powerless to resist.

why not on the line?

your excellent nsfw ullr thread contributions have been rewarded!

I still regret not jumping on some from gear swap forever ago. I just tell myself anything they do, the pillow fight does better :)

That's a sexy quiver, man. Nicely done.

Rare that you see PF's up for sale. I can sure see a limited frontside application. I tour with mine, so they get the nod often. Hands down my favorite...

Yes, but same as MHSP I was going way too slow, on low angle no less - honestly, I was intentionally trying to drive them to see what happened. They dove some and the uphill ski got a little...

Glad they're getting the love they deserve!

what?


tune your own f*cking skins?

+1.

I have old BG's and new CD's both wood veneer, both with shifts.

'Are you taking your wood skis today? I like those.'

yes dear

PSA super goats in gear swap

https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php/338020-FS-ON3P-Super-Goat-w-rotation-12s-450

thx for sharing man! fun conditions in that first one for sure.
not sure if you're a 'detune' guy or not but for me on BG's and Supergoats tip/tail detune made the turns virtually effortless. Maybe...

use the trim tool and make them ski specific, yeah?
This is what I did for my c&d:

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Perfect fit. I would rather buy big, trim. get as close to wall to wall as possible. ymmv

I'm 185 with a standard (1.5) flex. I don't ski near as hard as that dude on the back aevers (sick), but the standards are plenty. They have not gotten the nod over my c&d or pillowfight, mostly...

And mount your own f'ing skis.
I had a shop make this mistake.
but only on one ski.

Sigh.

Shift + maestrale RS on both.

I came from tele so this feels bomber.
All about perspective I guess.

I just don't know any better.
You get used to it. Besides, more exercise and more performance are both good things :)

shifts on my cease's 3292g/ski
shifts on pillow's 3641g/ski

don't regret...

Yes. In truth C/D and pillow fights usually get the nod over BG's and super goats these days. But I seldom find myself in heavier snow, chunder, or chopped up pow.

edit: I only tour, but I see my...

yes. 189, shifts and maestrale's.

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I don't have a pass, touring a couple days a week. quiver of 3: c&d, super goats, pillow fights. If I had to pick a quiver of 1 from those 3,...

detune and gummi, drive shins.

::Paging maggots who mounted ON3P's off the line and love it more than on the line::

After all the ON3P 'mount point' questions we see .. I can't remember many such examples - I'm curious if there...

Until last year I tele'd with Garmont ener-G and OG hammerheads. File detune tips and tails + gummi. Iggy always recommended on the line - I was never disappointed. 6'2" 180. I want the tails to...

yup.

Since it's post #1 for seller .. my .02:
In gear swap you can make a mag's day (or season) with a sweet deal on something they really want, and get a couple bucks toward what you really...

EDIT: SOLD

psa 14/15 Billy Goat grizzlycorn in gear swap:

https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php/331234-FS-14-15-ON3P-Billy-Goat-191-(grizzlycorn)?p=5817211#post5817211

Ha! Oops.

for touring? for what boots? lots of folks think on3ps too heavy to tour (read the recent discussions about tour layup unicorn requests).

I don’t think too heavy .. I have dynafit rotations on...

Yep. Downhill performance is king for me.
I tour on pillow fights almost half the time. But then, I'm an idiot.

In honesty, I should stop drinking beer to shave the weight in question.
But I...

189. Dynafit says rotation 12's are 605g w 105 brake. mine clocked 620g - i assume due to 120 brake?

2383 unmounted .. so

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Rotation 12's clock 620g (120 brake).
So I'm at 13lb 4oz per pair?
Totally worth the performance.

Do it!

Rotations on my C&D.
Every ski is a touring ski, if ya tour on it :)

fwiw:
unmounted my C&D's were 2383g (this year's) 10.5 lb per pair.
BG's were 2595g (older, 14/15 maybe)

Get some C&D's!! Lighter than advertised weight of BG in 189. You'll get used to it in...

arrange 1jan shipping

respectfully, as for 'deep untracked' .. think pillow fight!!!

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However I agree whole-heartedly with the 'cut-up funk' part. super goats rage here.

Ordered 2020 C/D 189's ... quiver...

supergoats like to eat corn too :)
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+1 on all this. Amazing what a difference a detune made on the SG's. So responsive now.

+1.
Ride for the brand.


So I just put the factory recommended de-tune on my supergoats. They were a little grabby, I'm sure it's because I was timid.

Funny: so now they release better .....

Carried the supergoats up high yesterday. Wrong choice.
Very steep, very tight chute, high consequence deliberate turns. Almost hop turns (not quite). Couldn't let em run.
probably my fault - but...

Yea, not quite there. I wonder if current technology could make the weight savings more drastic. like the semi cap you mention. Getting close enough .. that 1800 seems do-able.

My current tour...

I've got a pair of kinda older 191BG tour layup .. which are 372g lighter than my same-model stock BG191.

Apply similar weight savings to the BG weights on iggy's site?
Depending on length,...

I never had the confidence/stones to try this.

I just remounted PF196's. Plugged as described, but just went +1 to avoid overlap. Thought being, I'm realistically not gonna notice only +1.

And...