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    Are you skiing this weekend? Unfortunately...

    Are you skiing this weekend?

    Unfortunately Vail and co don’t like on mountain demos.
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    Why not narrower Jeffery?

    Why not narrower Jeffery?
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    490971 Just some friends hanging out together

    490971

    Just some friends hanging out together
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    Full carryover with what’s currently available....

    Full carryover with what’s currently available. They rip. Skied the 191 yesterday in mixed storm conditions. It rips too, obviously a big ski, but if you have room to let them run they are phenomenal.
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    The non tour lay up 193 made mountains small

    The non tour lay up 193 made mountains small
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    If you’re trying to make the 192 BG ski more like...

    If you’re trying to make the 192 BG ski more like the older 191s, move the mount back a cm rather than forward.
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    It’s probably just a style mismatch unless the...

    It’s probably just a style mismatch unless the tune was changed by a third party shop.

    Which size? Could just be the Jeffery is a better style match.
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    That’s where mine have been for the last 8 years....

    That’s where mine have been for the last 8 years. Allows you to drive the ski more.
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    What size boot are you again? If ~303mm you’re...

    What size boot are you again? If ~303mm you’re welcome to swap with me at Stevens some time.
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    I want to say all of this is correct. But I get...

    I want to say all of this is correct. But I get a little fuzzy in where the asym changeover happened.

    2012/13 RES was also decently refined from the first iteration 191 in 2011/12. The Billy...
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    Ski good too

    Ski good too
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    12/13 191 basically became a 189 around 2015 or...

    12/13 191 basically became a 189 around 2015 or so, largely to get it under the scary 190 number so people would buy it. This was done by basically cutting 2cm of twin tip off. 186 became a 184...
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    After skiing the 186 BGs today thought it was...

    After skiing the 186 BGs today thought it was worth sharing for everyone here.

    Current (23/24, 24/25) 186 BG is closer to the olde 189 (which was based off the 191) than the older 184/186. The 191...
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    It was always tied to Stevens Pass snow forecast...

    It was always tied to Stevens Pass snow forecast projections.
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    https://youtu.be/BSfpoSrCGsQ?feature=shared

    https://youtu.be/BSfpoSrCGsQ?feature=shared
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    Hope you’re not interpreting my post being...

    Hope you’re not interpreting my post being directed at you or most other folks here. Aimed at one person and one person only, who I think has owned more skis than he has ski days.
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    When they do release, feel free to skip out on...

    When they do release, feel free to skip out on buying any. Just leave them for people who will actually put time on the skis before writing a dissertation length review and putting them up in gear...
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    Remount at -1cm for more classic BG feel in the...

    Remount at -1cm for more classic BG feel in the PNW.

    For everyone:
    The last iteration of the 192 BG got tons of positive response from CO/UT skiers and really didn’t work in the PNW. Remounting...
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    Mount the current 192 at -1cm and it will feel...

    Mount the current 192 at -1cm and it will feel like a the old 191.

    Mount on the line and it will feel more locked in.
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    191 Wrenegade is the original ON3P ski which...

    191 Wrenegade is the original ON3P ski which started it all. End of an era
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    Tail is significantly more substantial on the...

    Tail is significantly more substantial on the current goats.
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    Not to be an apologist, and I don’t know what...

    Not to be an apologist, and I don’t know what instance you’re talking about, but different forums doesn’t always mean different people.
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    Current issue with the 192 BG is most likely...

    Current issue with the 192 BG is most likely camber related. The tour construction reduces the cambers influence a bit.

    Im not getting the same same hang ups with a 187 hybrid layup as the 192...
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    Billy Goats ski better at -1 then they do at +1

    Billy Goats ski better at -1 then they do at +1
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    08 Billy Goats (4 pairs only) worked great for...

    08 Billy Goats (4 pairs only) worked great for those four skiers
    09/10 Billy Goats didn’t work - but I have skied worse
    10/11 were fine (less camber and some sidecut adjustments IIRC(
    11/12 had a...
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    What year Asym? The move to 184 from 186 was...

    What year Asym? The move to 184 from 186 was basically superficial and the skis are essentially the same length. The added volume in the front of the ski could help you but you won’t be getting a...
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    I never skied the super goats. I was never dumb...

    I never skied the super goats. I was never dumb enough to want that.

    I will say the 192 Goats are helping me identify any issues with my boots. They have all of the happy to be going fast please...
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    192 Billy Goats like to go down the fall line,...

    192 Billy Goats like to go down the fall line, fast.

    That’s the review
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    They really are

    They really are
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    They have been mine. Decided to hang on to them

    They have been mine. Decided to hang on to them
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    Yes. It was designed by T woods several years ago...

    Yes. It was designed by T woods several years ago when he was doing the graphics. I could be wrong but it’s designed around a 191 Jeffery 122. It definitely works better on the 192s than the 186,...
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    New family photo: 397540

    New family photo:
    397540
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    More support on the outside tip and reduced drag...

    More support on the outside tip and reduced drag through chopped up soft snow. Offer the ability to swap skis if you get a blown edge.
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    Change in flex pattern mostly

    Change in flex pattern mostly
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    Supply chain for the raw materials is a bitch...

    Supply chain for the raw materials is a bitch right now
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    Fencejack, the new woodsman fixed the tail issues...

    Fencejack, the new woodsman fixed the tail issues you experienced on the first Gen, which was most noticeable in the 108
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    Jay and Nancy canceled my ski season before I...

    Jay and Nancy canceled my ski season before I could get any time on them.
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    caveman works for ON3P, incase it wasn't clear to...

    caveman works for ON3P, incase it wasn't clear to anyone.
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    187 will be plenty

    187 will be plenty
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    No one cares about the bickering as long as you...

    No one cares about the bickering as long as you all buy lots of new Billy Goats.
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    Here we go… 187 BG 118 next to a 188 Rustler...

    Here we go…

    187 BG 118 next to a 188 Rustler 11 (the current standard in ski design IMO). Wish I still had my DW Tour’s to put behind them…

    Edit1.2: See N1CK.’s post below. They are the...
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    *Checks closet* Yup

    *Checks closet*
    Yup
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    Yes Also, yes.

    Yes



    Also, yes.
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    Keep in mind the 184 was a 186 with a bigger twin...

    Keep in mind the 184 was a 186 with a bigger twin tip which was a bigger ski than the 188 s7
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    More info should be available soon, but yeah,...

    More info should be available soon, but yeah, you’re gonna want a new pair or two.
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    What size is your boot? Does it have tech inserts...

    What size is your boot? Does it have tech inserts and are you interested in Crystal on Saturday? Or just touring.
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    A 187 BG110 tour is going to float significantly...

    A 187 BG110 tour is going to float significantly better than the 190 DW tour. RES does that to a ski. Same actual length and only two mm difference in the waist. The BG has a float/soft snow designed...
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    https://youtu.be/xbE8E1ez97M

    https://youtu.be/xbE8E1ez97M
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    Yes, but these go one louder. Just mostly...

    Yes, but these go one louder.



    Just mostly dead.
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    this might be the most I have ever seen someone...

    this might be the most I have ever seen someone write on technical kick turning. Most folks just, ya know., do them.
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