Realistically - re-drilling them should not affect the price dramatically. The the two mounts (with a potential third heel remount) should cover most bsls, provided you plan to sell the skis with the...

I moved the mount forward +1.5 due to the 192 feeling tip heavy for me at 175cm/292 bsl. That made them a lot better for me. They were still freaking long missiles though and a bit unwieldy for me at...

thanks for posting this! Not a lot of info out there on this ski. They are on sale locally so the temptation to try a pair was real, but not with a mount point at -14. Probably missiles though


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SkiEssentials spout that jibberish in some of their videos, but it is not true. Like at all. Or rather, they say that the BlackOps98 and the slicer / menance is the same. I can't re-find the graphic...

the MF99 is finally being labeled the same as the 182 (now 183) MF108 for next year - they have always been the same length. It is not a 185, but measures 181.5. MF99s are fun.

If you want a 10x...

I have not skied them enough to give more than 1 cent so take the following with a grain or three of salt.

I find that they ski tracked out variable well - the ski is pretty damn stable and...

behold le shit!
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The brown parts are translucent and shows the core.

and the new m-pro 100
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hm, first thought - the tune sounds off. Second - do the bindings have too much forward pressure creating a dead space underfoot?

MF99s grip fine for what they are and should not be punishing to...

183 r20 4.4kg 141-111-133
191 r22 4.6kg 141-112-133

I just got to fondle a pair of 183 Dynastar M-Free 112s at the local dealer. They measure in at 181.5 straight pull, and the mount point is 87.5cm from the tails. They are very different to the...

Have you read the Blister review? They describe the differences pretty well.

Also, the comparison you ask for have already been asked and answered multiple times before in this thread. So going...

hm, the MF118 does not share the same construction as their narrower siblings - in spite of what Dynastar's marketing suggests. Wonder if that is the case here as well. It will be interesting to get...

you should get some 192s - they compliment BGs really, really well and should be perfect for your neck of the woods or as a travel ski. The hype is deserved, though I do not think they sell like hot...

Endre Hals of Evi skis makes them for the Norwegian ski magazine FriFlyt. I quite like them - very informative imho.

If you search for a particular model then just add "skitest" (not "ski test")...

it is there by design to make them loose, together with the deep taper lines.

Most skis have like 5-6cm difference between the mount point to the front and rear contact points respectively,...

I am sure you are aware, but the only difference in shape between the 108 and 118 is 3cm length in tail rocker. The mounting spot is in the exact same spot relative to the contact points on the two...

to be fair, Dynastar states they are 110s too, though a 110 ski being called 108 is a bit of marketing fubar
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I am also kinda surprised how much I've grown to like their shape over the past...

sweet, thanks for the feedback :)

I did not care for M-Free 108s at all this past season after loving them in the 21/22 season. I just wanted more support out of the tails without having to ski the 192s, which is just too long a ski...

I've skied neither, but it is my understanding that the M-Pros get less turny / more inclined to do slightly longer turns as the they grow wider - with the 90 still being more inclined to do smaller...

Nein - the M-Free series returns unchanged.

I think this together with the damp looseness is the main three things I love about M-Free 108s - they do what you tell them to do and mostly have your back if stuff happens without doing anything...

yup - sound advice / take.

192 M-Free 108 is a pretty damn capable ski that happens to be loose and playful at the same time, not the other way around. I mean, Reine still uses them on the FWT, so...

I would be very surprised if 182 M-Pro 108s would not ski significantly longer than 182 M-Free 108s. Their effective edge is way longer, without seeming to be too much ski. Also, the back half of the...

eh, the only difference besides the width is that the tails on the 118 is what 3cm shorter in the rockered section. Other than that the rocker profiles, contact points, mount points relative to...

Yes, MPro108 is a 22/23 ski, the M-Tour 108 is a 23/24 ski.

you post admittedly had me howling with laughter as the French are prone to do stupid shit in the name of marketing, but then I...

Dynastar brand preview:

There’s a new M in town. With another year and another M-Free and M-Pro, Dynastar brings back some of our favorites, while adding another new ski to their line up. ...

184 Bibbys and 182 MFree 182s should be more or less the same length, probably within a couple of mm.

I would imagine 182 MFree 108s being am absolute riot for tele -> loose as a goose yet with...

hah, interesting - thanks for snapping thee second pic.

They prob started out the same though. I wonder if you can tell them apart in variable in terms of suspension, or as you say on hard snow...

how much of that is down to the Tecton brakes gently clamping them together?



Define playful. More balanced in the air / underfoot? Sure. Looser, depends - but probably not - they are super...

good point - I mounted the 182s forward to get a bit more into the stronger midsection of the ski to make the ski feel stronger (something they did, especially the 99s), whereas I mounted forward on...

thanks for this comment, to provide context to my mount - it is very much a second half of the season mount. Aka when you can let them run and you are into skiing / on form. 192 +1.5 were dreadful...

I really liked the 192s at +1.5. 192 felt inbalanced on the line for my tiny 25.5 293 bsl, whereas 1.5 felt fine. 192s feel fine on the line from a driving perspective though, not like the 182s that...

I finally got to fondle at pair of 182 M-Pro 108s, and man - interesting ski. The tips/tails are not overly stiff which together with copious amounts of camber should yield a ton of traction /...

cool thing there is a 108 m-tour coming then :) (m-pro shape)



The Menance PR-OTO is a M-Free, not a PR-OTO.

PR-OTO is a different build/construction - Spain vs France.

For what it is worth, I really like my MF99s at +1 (based on not fully jiving with 99s at rec and 108s at rec and +1.5 - 182s remounted to +1) and mf108 192/189 MF118 at +1.5 (108 192s at recommended...

this made me laugh.



btw, I do not quite know how we ended up with you feeling like you have to defend marketing people from my general rant, but my bad - such was not my intent, so sorry about...

my bad. In general, I agree.

Then again it makes sense that the 118 has slightly less splay - making the cambered volume be more front and center in terms of dictating where the float is...

What does K2s whataboutism have to do with anything? My baseline is ON3P who guess what, measure true to stated length (as you know).

That parts of the industry stay true to the archaic pre-press...

take into account that the shape is otherwise identical, so by cutting the tails shorter and also having more volume compared to 108s you basically end up with a shorter lever in the rear making it...

Thanks for chiming in!



Can you please smack the marketing people over the head for me and have them relabel the 185 as what it really is, a narrower 182?



yeah, that kinda makes more...

Yes.

That is the reason I considered chopping a few cm of a pair of 192s. I have since abandoned that idea.

Bringing up DarthMarkus's Menace Proto / M-Free 118 review again - lots of good info in that thread.

The camber profile from the rear contact point and forward is the same across all MFs ( I should have snapped a photo of it re this post), but 118s have slightly less tail rocker - aka the splayed...

Keep in mind that the the difference between the widths is all in the tail - the profile from recommended and forward is identical across all M-Frees. You def do not want to size down on the 118 if...

They are as far as I know made by Endre Hals of Evi Skis for the Norwegian ski magazine FriFlyt.

Just use the photo search function in google, type the ski model + skitest ( for instance "M tour...

actually no - regarding the bmt109. The flex comes from the center part of the ski, not the tips/shovels. Compare these
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BMTs rely more on the shape and the center...

The thing that has me slightly worried about the m tours - and the main reason other than an empty wallet that I have not bought a pair - is that FriFlyt lists the shovels as being fairly soft, a...

182s measure in at 181.5cm straight pull, so true to length yes for all practical purposes.

Keep in mind that they have a ton of rocker though, so do not be afraid of sizing up. That is unless you...

would pro form be (significantly) cheaper than 21/22s that you find discounted online though? re post

There are no structural changes or updates for 22/23 - only some cosmetic changes re above...