wouldn't the alternative be a tech toe that is locked for the up - aka something that is specifically designed never to release?

The release in walk mode feature is as mentioned above meant to...

not obsolete imho - I actually prefer them to Tectons due to their delta (Tecton heels are too low). I still run Vipecs on three setups whereas I sold all my Tectons.

Vipecs they are still hhave...

first, I wouldn't generalize what happens to me to all skiers. I couldn't ski tectons for the life of me last year after having grown used to xt3 12 degrees boots + castified pivots delta.
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wait, what - you shimmed the toes on a Tecton?

I've found the delta to be 3mm lower (lower heels) on tectons compared to castified pivots with my Lange XT3s, making them hard to ski for me.
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I have no idea what might cause this, bbut just to clarify something - the toes does not lock out, the walk mode just adds tension/friction to the mechanism. It is one of their selling features...

The first gen Tectons took whatever knee fall issues that were present in the first gens of the Vipecs and ramped them up to the umphteenth degree. Sadly. Sorry about them boots - perhaps BD will...

the only thing it can affect is the forward release, and that is easy to test - just turn the din down low and try to simulate a forward fall.

I can't recall this ever being debated wrt Tectons, but I do seem to remember there being some instances where the walk mode did not work optimally if worked outside of the range.

I would just...

i've fondled a pair.

The new forward release mechanism seems nice, though I've never had any issues with any of the past two iterations of Tecton toes ( in spite of toe-gate).

The stated...

hm, that is very strange. There would need to be quite a bit horizontal movement of the binding for that to happen, which at din 9 takes quite a bit of force. The snow build up hypothesis is perhaps...

yeah, that sounds like something that would suck big time. Glad you are still in one piece (hopefully).

Is the forward pressure and din adjusted correctly for your bsl and weight?

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Yes. The toes are identical other than coloring (within a generation, mount pattern identical across all generations whites/black/evo/evo(2) as far as I know / have experienced), so the heel's...

I would not sweat it - it is just a small learning curve, then your good. They aren't as easy as some other tech bindings, but their performance more than makes up for it. I have more than 100 days...

I have no idea, but the binding works just fine without that part, I think it is only there to help center the boot for step in - though the step in could be a bit more fiddly - i dunno.

Also, it...

I get on with both skis really well - they just ski a bit differently. I have three or four full days on the Rustler/ATK combo in resorts, and the same touring. I really like how R10s ski for the...

I am sure they will end up being awesome for her, especially if you scored a good deal :) At the end of the day, if those bindings give her the confidence she was seeking, 100grs or whatever is a...

ah - yeah, given that info it sounds like something is amiss. Sounds like a good call. Sorry if I was too positive before there. I am sure BD will have you sorted out in no time :)

Just to be...

yeah, unless you feel the noticeable click side to side play that has been mentioned previously on here, I would not be concerned.

Im other news - I came back from a tour just now. I did two laps...

There is a bit of elasticity / movement range in the front even in walk mode. The walk mode just adds tension to the system, it does not lock it out. Unless it is an issue (meaning super annoying,...

what the vids show isn't the elasticity at work, but seem to be play.

Again, I would just contact BD and get their take on it. Their warranty responses seem to be pretty damned fast wrt...

no - what the videos show is not a known issue with Tectons - or Vipecs. I would call/email Black Diamond / Fritschi and have them give their take on it. Probably a warranty issue.

I checked both...

It can be found in Knut's library

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1lpDx4-8PF44Pc08HHNyYY6Gg2a3Dd245

Vipec mount pattern aka #3

25mm it is :)

You can potentially go a bit past, but people have experienced issues with the brakes not staying put while touring when going beyond the stop mark. A rear demo rail has 60mm of...

There is a risk with any design and/or material, yet Vipecs and Tectons seem no more suceptible to breaking than most other designs - in spite of all the plastic. Was the error caused by inherent...

90 mm are 92mm inside - mine are at least. Do not have my 115s available for measuring, but they seem true for size - so nothing like the brakes.

Google to the rescue - hit 1 and 3: key take away - compatible, but perhaps not recommended.

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yeah, that makes sense. :) If so - then I can't really see a solution to the clicking, other than asking Fritschi to up the tension of that spring or to choose flatter routes in.

Adrgha - do you...

strange - no, cannot remember that happening, though I have not toured in a while. Perhaps there is bit of tension in the lifters when stood upon, making for rebound as you step off? I dunno.

You...

I've been in contact with both. I have yet to call their sales manager after he reached out to me, due to being busy elsewhere - as I am sure he has been too with the launch of the new bindings.
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to be honest, I do not really get why that extra loop is there in the first place. I guess it could be to add some torsional stiffness, prevent snow build up or something, but it seems kinda...

I also have lots and lots of days on Vipecs and Tectons. Really like both and have had zero issues.

I made the swap to Shifts for my resort slayers though - mostly to be able to do some shorter,...

the official word from the local distributor here in northern euroland is no dice unless you have actually damaged your boots. I have yet to hear back from Fritschi.

hehe. Actually, warranty laws are usually pretty strong in my neck of the woods. State law usually requires (at least) a 2 year warranty on these kinds of products, regardless of manufacturer trying...

I do not think luck has anything to do with it, unless BDs policy is about to change.

I think it has more to do with BD hving a proactive policy - possibly due to liability laws in the US - while...

the inital reply was not very impressive: (paraphrased) "This is a relatively uncommon issue with approx 30 known instances, in spite of thousand of units sold. None of the known cases are with the...

hm, interesting.

I will see if the good folks over at Fritschi do the same here in Euroland :)

The only issue being the knee fall/bumping one?

huh - am I misunderstanding or are you guys saying that BD/Fritschi are willing to replace the toe binding over the knee fall/bump issue?

;) Figured as much, but still - thought I should ask. When I saw the pic I was like "... that seems a bit strange...", but glad to hear that everything is a-ok! :)

ah, ok. I used the top of my screen then lines to see if it was straight - it is not - but it is probably just due something that went slightly awry when taking the pic ;) #lovetechnology...

1) is it just funky light or uploading/lens issues that makes your edge seem a bit crooked?

2) I think Fritschi would approve of use of light blue accents over the orange one in this case ;)...

hah - that just makes too much sense! Good photo for #ultimateclarification :)

one just has to admire the mag-community's ability to share knowledge!

if you consider buying regular Proclines i would suggest you read both Blister's and Doglotion's review of the boots.
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the orange accents that are on stock doesn't match perfectly with all skis/boots colorwise, so in case blue or yellow does and you are partial to color matching, Fritschi provides everything needed...

i might misunderstand what you are trying to do - but i seem to recall that vipecs and tectons alike have 25mm adjustment within the standard rear mounting plate, so 12.5mm each way. As such, you...

This i did not know. Having paid zero attention to what plates i have mounted with what binding i have experienced some issues with getting the Tecton on certain plates with the heel assembly not...

https://www.wildsnow.com/11228/mounting-adjustment-fritschi-vipec/

seek and you shall find! As the mounting pattern is identical on all vipecs and tectons, the system should work with all...

is the pin insertion set up correctly up front when this play is evident? I cannot remember ever experiencing said play in either vipec or tecton, but i can remember some slop up front in ski mode...

Thorough and well written review Lee! I am glad that hopefully more people get on the vipec/tecton bandwagon instead of radicals :)

you remove the metal arms and the plastic part that cycles the brakes, then re-attach the heel pad piece to main rear binding unit, and slide the rear binding assembly back onto the rail that is...