I've been going back and forth between a Jeffery 116 and Billy Goat for a while. Don't want to give up the playfulness of the Jeffery but want the crud busting ability of the Billy Goat. Maybe this...

With all this MVP talk I'll throw my skis out there if anyone is interested. Looking to trade 193 veneer MVPs, current mount is shifts. Oak veneer with GPO graphic. Probably 10 resort days, 5 touring...

Usually higher din = more metal. Metal is more expensive then plastic I'm assuming. I think it's also just a "premium product" markup

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Some 192 Lotus 138s listed in Tacoma. White with red stripe. Come with Speed Turns and BD skins. $400

I am on the 191 k108. Demos mounted on them and liked them at 0 and +1. Took me about a half day to click with them and now they are my favorite ski.

So you had the 186 and want to get the 191 or...

Same thing happens with my Griffon IDs and Salomon MTN Lab boots. I have a worn spot/dimple in the same spot. I thought it was weird because on my old Jesters I had no issue, but those were different...

I'm heavy, ski hard, do large drops, etc and run my bindings at 11 or 12 and haven't have any issues with breakage/durability/slop with din ~13 bindings (Warden, Attack13, Griffon). So why do so many...

What's you height/weight/ski ability?

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Where are you finding $20 Sole footbeds?

Great, my buddy has the IOX. I'll try them on this weekend for fit and get back to you

Just for a contrasting opinion. I have demo bindings and am liking them at +1 but I came from a salomon rocker 2 108 with a mount point 3 cm from center. So just depends on preference.

How do iox compare fit wise to the io? They're the larger version right? Also, the blue sensor lens is the classic storm lens that's super popular right?

I did a search and didn't see any pics that had pin compatibility. Am I missing something?

Would be awesome if this existed and didn't have to spend an additional $200 to have CAST do it. Too bad...

After talking with a couple boot fitters and hearing people on here say it, this is the route I'm going to go. Lots of good info in here tho so hopefully someone looking for a one boot to do it all...

Nope. Both solid bindings in my experience. I'd use whichever binding had less play. If they're the same go with the Attack 16s because of less stack height and a beefier binding.

This was Moment's canned answer when I asked about DW vs WC108. I'm sure they get asked this a ton so I figured I'd share if someone else was debating:

"The Deathwish being slightly wider is going...

Thanks for the insight. And I completely agree that predictable is a very big priority in a touring ski when you're edging your way across a no fall zone. Plus I seem to get along well with skis with...

Why are people saying DWT>WCT108? I'm sure its been discussed but I didn't find it after scrolling for a while. I talked to moment and they recommended the WCT 108 because it'll do better in the icy...

Seems like DW>WC108 is the consensus. To be clear, I'm looking for a touring ski that can survive in the resort. Seems like tour core is the answer. But then again maybe I do regular core with a...

Looking for a do-it-all touring ski that'll give confidence in sketch terrain but still float enough for all year touring. Other great attributes would be playful and have enough backbone for 15-20'...

Hah, thought it might be a maggot with those sticks!

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2.5 mounts for pivots, no affiliation, located in Wenatchee WA. Figured it was a pretty good deal for someone wrenagade-curious.
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I do bamboo skewers as well but I found it easier to stick the whole stick in there until it hits the bottom. Then saw it off with a super thin blade and top with epoxy. I'm sure both techniques work...

I'll be selling my Veneer 193 MVPs standard layup in the next month or two most likely. 1 year old, <10 days mostly touring, 1 mount. Not heavy hitter but let me know if you're interested, open to...

Thanks. Should have thought to scroll up a little

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What ski shops do you guys recommend for boots? Looking at Lupo/Cochise 130/Roxa R3/Hawx Ultra XTD 130/Nodica Strider/other boots along this line. I've had a friend recommend Sports Creel. Ideally in...

Resort:
191 Jeffery 108 with attack AT demo binders
192 Protest with Salomon Warden demo binders
Looking at adding billy goat or Jeff 116

Backcountry/side country:
193 MVP with Shifts
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I'd double check the probe length depending on where you're located. In the PNW (lots and lots of snow), I was recommended a 300+ cm probe.

I got the tracker 2 as my first beacon. Simple to use,...

Yeah, and I'm conflicted here because I do understand you comprise some but it's just a pain to have to switch boots to do side country.

But that's why I'm asking, how much do people think...

Looks like the lupo is a 3 piece, do you notice that feels much different from a overlap? I've tried on some 3 piece boots but never skied one and am hesitant to invest $600 in something I've never...

I currently have Salomon S/Lab MTN boots which worked great as a burlier touring boot and the occasional resort day. I was thinking of picking up a resort boot late last year but didn't really know...

Chop was soft and the sun was shining. No complaints at Schweitzer...

Yeah that'd be awesome. Most everything was open up there today except the T bar, sunny side, and the new lower snow ghost. Lots of sharks still out tho

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Cool. Very cool. Where do you ski?



I keep thinking I'm sold on BGs and then someone says something like this...



Careful, those be fightin words around these parts

I ski at Schweitzer and have a 321. Sounds like it might be a squeeze?

That would be rad.

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People have already talked a little bit about it here but I'd be curious on your thoughts of J116 vs billy goat. Any chance you've skied a Protest? That's the main ski the BG would replace.

My...

This offer still on the table? Hah, it's been a year but just moved up to Sandpoint/Spokane earlier this month. Congrats on the supergoats

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Appreciate the advice. How playful are the BGs? One thing I love about the J108s is how they make me want to hit every little kicker in sight, I'm not looking to spin much but I love that "jibby"...

Afd adjustment is the top one I think, the side is din. Just do trial and error and see which moves

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Yep. Might be out of my price range but yeah. Price?

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Yeah there's no screw to micro adjust. Just make sure you're in the notched range.

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Wow. Spent 3 days on the Jeffery 108 and I get it. Blasted through crust, railed turns on groomers, and made me want to jib every bump in site. Totally an on3p fanboi now. Wow. Now just need figure...

Was up at Schweitzer yesterday. Was super windy towards the end of the day up top. Went in to piss at the sky house, came back out and my brothers snowboard had blow away. Wind was blowing off the...

Saw your post on the ON3P thread on the WD108. Thoughts on DW vs WD108 as a better Rocker2 108 replacement in the PNW?

Kinda similar to this suggestion, I'd go reg WC 108 for resort and WC tour with tectons for touring and resort pow. If you were more concerned about groomers I'd say DW over WC108 but that nots the...

A Nano Air popped up in the Worn Wear section of Patagonia and I grabbed it. Thanks everyone. Might have to end up grabbing one for myself in the near future.

I read a review saying that they ordered a size up for Houdini. Was this the case for you?

Great recommendation on the R2. I like that it also can be worn casually but is still a performance layer. Might end up going this route. How do you think it compares to the Nano or Nano light in...

Looking for some touring poles. Open to either adjustable or fixed in the 125-130cm length. Priority is strong and a good locking mechanism if adjustable. Preferably have an extra long handle and...

Yep, and I'm keeping an eye on that stuff. There's a nano air light but I'm worried that wont be warm enough.