Haha. You obviously have not watched his threads. That said, I'm sure if they are everything people claim, these may finally be keepers.

I call dibs for when you move on from them [emoji6]

It's the greatest PNW powder ski made. I'm J118 curious and am always watching for a 191 to pop up.

Another powder day and another reminder of how much I love the old 191 BG. Effortless pivot in tight trees in Whistler. Ate up heavier powder and allowed me to ski however I wanted (charge, noodle,...

Yeah, check the tune. My 191 BGs are my favorite tree ski I own. Pivot on a dime when needed.

Yeah, saw those. Way too much.

Looking forward to when they drop some factory finds again. Hoping for some Jeff 118 in a 191.

Cosign on this ask. Would love a deeper comparison to the bearclaw.

Killer deal on sought after 2017 184 BGs (pre-asym) with 1 mount in good shape. Seattle area

https://offerup.co/Uzoz1UFlPGb

Edit - looks like they are already pending. Hopefully a mag got them!

Yeah, they are still great, just not quite as good. Lots of big Asym fans out there.

They are the past generation (20-23), not the ones that will be available. They felt more locked in and lost much of the pivotability. They railed groomers (who cares), but didn't deal with heavy pow...

I hope you are right. The previous 192 just didn't work out for me. The new ones look great and I want to believe, I'm just hesitant after my recent experience. I'm taking a wait and see approach,...

It's my favorite ski ever. I have 2 pair and always have an eye out for more. I can't see myself ever without a pair. Nothing can match the ability to pivot, float as well as crush everything. Only...

They have a bunch of new, old stock Moment skis from the same era as well. Unfortunately they are shorties, too.

A couple great deals for small folks. Brand new old stock of some classic models. $350 each

176 Bear Paw BGs https://offerup.co/dTciVkVMoGb

176 Vicik
https://offerup.co/TUFZoS1MoGb

Definitely interested if they are 191s.

That looks hawt! Nice skis!

I only wish Helen's old man was a bit bigger and needed a 191.

192 BGs for a decent price. Assume these are from a mag.

https://seattle.craigslist.org/est/spo/d/snoqualmie-on3p-billy-goat-cm/7692867458.html

Man, I thought hard about those when he made the last price drop. They look sick! Nice score.

Not mine and I already have 2 pair of this vintage, but looks like a decent deal on a (likely) mislabeled BG 191 from 2014. If you want the "old" BG feel/shape, this is the one you want. #IYKYK Some...

Yeah, they don't come up much. I picked up a pair of 2014 last year off Craigslist in Bend, OR and had a Mag help with transit. I'm always on the lookout, too.

I've heard +1 and I've heard -1. I ended up doing neither because I don't want to add any more holes. Could do demos, but then I'm stuck with bindings I don't like on a ski I was hoping to love.
...

Buy the 191s and let us know how they are! [emoji6]

The bummer is we used to get an annual post from Iggy outlining the changes and the reasoning behind them. It was a whole lot better than the ad copy on the website. Maybe we all became whiny...

Have you skied both? I have the 192 and old 191s. The 192 absolutely skis groomers wayyyy better than the 191. They absolutely truck on groomed. My problem was they gave up PNW powder performance for...

Totally understand they need to do what's best for their business and there's way more Rocky Mountain/Wasatch skiers than PNW. I'm probably just going to sell them on KSL. They are great for out...

This was how the 2021 192 was for me , as well. I skied it in UT last year and thought it was great. Came home to Alpental and they just didn't work. Got back on my 2014 191s and they felt like they...

After my experience with the last generation 192 BG, I've decided not to be a tester for ON3P updates. The skis are beautiful, the finish top notch and I still love the brand. I'm just not buying...

There's 3 pair of 186 Jeff 108s on OfferUp in Seattle.

We can dare to dream. In the meantime, I'll enjoy the two I have in my garage.

Let's just say I'm not going to be the Guinea pig for the new BG this time around after last time. Looking forward...

Yeah, that's a sweet top sheet. I'll be curious to hear if the tweaks fixed the issues with the older 192s without messing up what people loved about the 187.

There's a pretty sweet factory find pair, too. Now you guys got me thinking. I'm usually a 192 ON3P guy, but this 186 talk has me intrigued.

If you are going to do the 192 BG, wait until the next release. They will not be what you want if you buy the current version. Too locked in with current side cut/tail. If getting 187, you should be...

I've heard that before but I've also heard it doesn't solve things. Hearing it from you gives me more confidence it may be worth trying. Do you know anything about the changes that might be coming to...

I have 2014 191s and a 2022 192. The old 191s are much better. Rumor has it that changes are coming for the 192 for next year. I really hope so. I've heard the 187 is good but really prefer the...

I knew this +1 was coming [emoji23]

I also agree that the masses don't want dedicated chargers. At least we have Marshall looking out for us freaks. Especially now that Moment got rid of the...

Speak for yourself, Bro [emoji28] I have a couple and always on the lookout.

That said, most people are looking for the elusive "playful charger" which is more on the Woods side.

Dude. Those are so nice. Rasta pivots in my garage are begging for those.

Thank goodness there are no real options for my size!

Has anyone done a 50/50 Jeffrey 118 for inbounds with some side country and smaller laps?

6'2" and 205#. I would do the 186 but generally ski around 190cm skis. I prefer long for powder skis.

I ran to the ad and when I saw the length [emoji22]

This has been a PNW Goat stoke week. I've been on my 191s all week and it just reminds me how I hope I die before these skis do. They just do everything I want in pow exactly how I want. Pivot,...

C"mon, man. Mags don't make anyone go to their Craigslist ad. Post those up here with the Mag (not Craigslist) price.

I've heard from people testing that at least the 192 BG118s will be tweaked. Current mount point is not in the best spot and should get altered for next year.

You're doing the new one while I was heading out on the old 191s. Reminded me why I love this ski so much. I've never had a ski where I had such a "mind meld" like this one. Always knew exactly where...

Sent you a PM

Bummed my saved search didn't trigger on those. Killer deal.

This argument is stupid. No one should have to feel like they NEED to check the tune/base on a new pair of skis. If you want to, then more power to you. You want to buy the tuning gear and do it all...