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    That is helpful. Grew up skiing Bridger and the...

    That is helpful. Grew up skiing Bridger and the 184 BG is my favorite ski ever. How would you compare the feel of the 186 Jeffery to the 187 Woodsman? With the Jeff I feel pretty confident I'd go 186...
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    Im 510 and 170. ON3P said theyd usually put...

    Im 510 and 170. ON3P said theyd usually put someone my size on the 182 but that the 187 would certainly be doable. Im still torn.
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    182 Woodsman?

    182 Woodsman?
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    ON3P SKIS Discussion

    Yeah my comment out of all of that would be that Id be surprised if the Black Ops out chopped the BG. Groomers, yeah probably.
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    Really wish there were 182 Woody 108s left.

    Really wish there were 182 Woody 108s left.
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    Not only that but the serial block "line" is like...

    Not only that but the serial block "line" is like 4mm thick....are people just using the center, top, bottom? haha Seems pretty obvious it's not intended as a mount recommendation but there's a...
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    Yeah the "line" on the topsheet is NOT the...

    Yeah the "line" on the topsheet is NOT the recommended mount center. The "line" to mount on is indicated by the sidewall mark only.
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    The biggest advantage might be the better snow...

    The biggest advantage might be the better snow shedding on for the textured version.
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    Yeah my 18/19 BGs are pre-tectured top sheet but...

    Yeah my 18/19 BGs are pre-tectured top sheet but very nicely beveled and have been quite resistant to damage. Much tougher compared to say my Moments from 12/13.
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    FWIW, iggy did say that most people who are...

    FWIW, iggy did say that most people who are wanting to go to a more playful/loose ski from a Wren would size down. So 184 Wren skier would be looking at a 182 Woodsman. That said, there's probably...
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    Damn those look good!

    Damn those look good!
  12. I have been thinking of picking up something like...

    I have been thinking of picking up something like this for a lower angle playful pow ski. The QST 118 is tempting.
  13. Man I tried so hard to get my hands on these when...

    Man I tried so hard to get my hands on these when I was really getting back in to skiing and re-gearing shortly after they went out of production. Sure would have liked to try them.
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    Put me down as interested. I haven't had one...

    Put me down as interested. I haven't had one before, but I'm looking in to it.
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    A big part of my problem is lack of experience...

    A big part of my problem is lack of experience with different skis. I went from being a kid and college age skiing whatever I could get y hands on to a decade gear gap. Skied the OG 185 Cochise for a...
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    Interesting observation. I always feel like skis...

    Interesting observation. I always feel like skis with long tails (aka short tips) feel and ski short. But I guess if it's a strong tail I could see how it could run away/feel big especially if you...
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    The 187 Woodsman will be about the same size as...

    The 187 Woodsman will be about the same size as 190 Deathwish. My 184 Billy Goat is 2.4cm longer than my 184 Bibby Pro.
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    You sound like a perfect candidate for a...

    You sound like a perfect candidate for a Jeffery/Kartel if you're cool with the mount point (something like -4 to -5 from center). They should provide all the poppy playful tree tapping goodness...
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    Jeffery 116 or Wildcat. Though the Chipotle...

    Jeffery 116 or Wildcat. Though the Chipotle Banana would be an interesting option. If I was getting a Wildcat for a pow ski again Id for sure size up to 190. Probably 186 in the Jeffery if youre...
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    I think the weight, stiffness, and rocker...

    I think the weight, stiffness, and rocker profiles are the main factors. Plus RES if youre on the BG or C&D. This stuff also makes them good in blower though too. Especially at speed
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    The Wildcat and K96 would probably make the most...

    The Wildcat and K96 would probably make the most sense. Though I tend to prefer 108 as a daily, so I'd probably do that and the Wildcat. The K108 is probably a sweet one ski travel ski though.
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    SO....Woodsman vs BG sizing question. Being a 189...

    SO....Woodsman vs BG sizing question. Being a 189 BG guy, what do you think of the 187 Woodsman? How does the size of the Woodsman feel in relation to the BG? What about stability and...
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    Man these seem like they'd be fun!

    Man these seem like they'd be fun!
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    Jeffery 122 would get me a bit excited too. I'd...

    Jeffery 122 would get me a bit excited too. I'd like something fat and playful for some lower angle type stuff without having to go buy a floppy noodle pow ski. Though really that may be the answer...
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    Ha yes I was. Seems like you own just about the...

    Ha yes I was. Seems like you own just about the whole lineup. Im envious!
  26. I agree you're on the right path. Jeffery 108...

    I agree you're on the right path. Jeffery 108 sounds like a great fit. As I said in the ON3P thread, the Woodsman 108 is probably also worth trying. But my guess is if you're wanting to spend time in...
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    Well you apparently own every ON3P made so...

    Well you apparently own every ON3P made so obviously you can't be relied on for 1 ski quiver decisions. :biggrin:
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    Based on this, I'd say the BG is probably not a...

    Based on this, I'd say the BG is probably not a great one ski quiver. It really depends on when and how often you ski. For me I don't get to ski as much as I'd like so I make my days count and...
  29. I have skis that when the brakes are locked...

    I have skis that when the brakes are locked together the skis are either partially or completely de-cambered. So yes, this could change the camber over time as well.
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    I believe hes listing the range the recommended...

    I believe hes listing the range the recommended mount point is marked on each ski...its different for each size. A 179 BG doesnt have the same mount point as a 189 for instance. So he posted the...
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    Any more details on what you didnt like about...

    Any more details on what you didnt like about the Woodsman?
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    Be sure to share your (her) experience!

    Be sure to share your (her) experience!
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    Always on the line with RES. Seriously. BGs...

    Always on the line with RES. Seriously. BGs really dont need to be driven and are better suited to a more centered stance. Id give it more time or maybe they just arent for you. If you get to...
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    Id personally go Deathwish in case some...

    Id personally go Deathwish in case some unexpected snow hits. That said I imagine the PB&J is the right choice if a storm doesnt hit.
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    I really think 108 Woodsman and BG will be my...

    I really think 108 Woodsman and BG will be my main quiver eventually.
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    Blister usually posts rocker numbers with their...

    Blister usually posts rocker numbers with their reviews. So if they have reviewed the ski your after they might have what you need.
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    Ive looked at those for my wife too. Shes 50...

    Ive looked at those for my wife too. Shes 50 and 115ish. Currently on 154 Kikus that are quite traditional mounted. Ive wondered which size would be best for her.
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    ON3P SKIS Discussion

    Likewise Im 510 170lbs on the 184 BG and you can drive the front pretty damn hard in 3D snow. The tips dont hook on anything...RES! I cant say Ive ever wished I had a longer BG. In comparison...
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    Damn those are sexy.

    Damn those are sexy.
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    ON3P SKIS Discussion

    Id say trust the mount or get a Wren. Why would you buy a Woodsman if you wanted a traditional mount?
  41. Looking like I might be up there tomorrow. Skiing...

    Looking like I might be up there tomorrow. Skiing with a non-TGR buddy in the morning but I'll try and catch up with the crew at some point. Haven't ever met any of you so I'll just look for the...
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    Yeah after thinking about it more last night I...

    Yeah after thinking about it more last night I think sizing up is the right move. I'm more likely to bothered by a ski that's too short than one that's too long. I did send the folks at ON3P and...
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    Yeah I've read their review. In a review for some...

    Yeah I've read their review. In a review for some other ski though I remember one of the guys making a comment to how much bigger the 187 Wood felt in a certain situation...they were on like a 184...
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    I feel the 184 BG is perfect. It's never felt to...

    I feel the 184 BG is perfect. It's never felt to short or too long. With the caveat that it's my new snow day ski and has mainly been in good powder conditions. The Woods 187 would still have less...
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    Well while we're back on Woodsman 108...

    Well while we're back on Woodsman 108 sizing....I'm still not sure what I would grab. 5'10" 170 fairly aggressive skier but I do like to get sideways a bit and not always 100% fall line (thus...
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    Based on your racing background and size, 189...

    Based on your racing background and size, 189 seems like the obvious answer. However, here's some numbers based on Blisters measurements of the 186 Peacemaker and 184 Wrenegade 96. Mounts are from...
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    The most common one I can remember seeing the...

    The most common one I can remember seeing the past few years was the Kartel (Jeffery) at -2 but that was before the Woodsman and probably part of what led to the idea of the Woodsman. People were...
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    Honestly based on the other skis you normally...

    Honestly based on the other skis you normally use, it's not surprising that a smaller ski was less stable than you expected. It seems like you are solidly in the pick-the-bigger-ski camp and not...
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    Been pretty limited commander talk on here in...

    Been pretty limited commander talk on here in general. How are people liking them?
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    I'd say if you want to go back on the Woodsman...

    I'd say if you want to go back on the Woodsman you should have bought the Wren. The whole point of the Woodsman was to offer a more playful directional ski through mount point and increased tail...
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