^^^Nice work! The perfect conditions for that ski to shine!

Hmm…”squirrelliness” is not something I have experienced on high speed groomers…as long as the ski was on edge.

Were you running bases flat?

On the OG M102 quiver spot, if you are fond of that ski, don’t sell it. The OG is a special ski that works well in a broad spectrum of conditions and performs at the highest levels yet is pretty easy...

I have a few days on the 2022 184 Kendo and vanilla is a good description, especially in comparison to the M6. I actually think the M6 has better edge hold and is more eager to get into a turn. Also,...

What length are you on? I ask because there is a big difference in my experience between the 184 and 191. The 184 is really a "fat" mantra, which is okay, but it's a far cry from the 187 XXL with...

Here’s the rub in the K108 vs LP105 comparison…you have to do the 191 vs 192 to make it “fair”. You can get a 170, 177, or 184 K108. A 184 K108 has amazing versatility compared to the LP. Ask...

Glad you enjoyed your first day out on the Katanas. They aren’t a perfect ski, but are a very capable and versatile charger that works well for western skiers as a daily driver. The K108 skis a...

I have the 20-21 184 (black and yellow) and just bought a backup pair of 2023 184’s. They have the same straight pull length.

Interesting take, especially given you’ve skied the Revolt 114. K108’s are surprisingly good in pow and stellar in the leftovers.

I’m on the rear line for all my recent Volkls, and I’m only in a 295-mm BSL. I like driving the shovels and with that large sweet spot, it feels perfect for 184’s.

On the topic of hooky K108’s,...

If you can ski the OG Cochise and Vwerks, you’re no slouch. So, I’m going with stance/style or tune. Both the OG Cochise and Vwerks have a much larger, single radius sidecut, which may also be a...

Just spent Friday up at Blackcomb on my 184’s. OMG…I almost forgot how much I enjoy these on a Big mountain with Big terrain. Spent lots of time well north of 50-mph on soft groomers. I love how easy...

295-mm BSL and I’m on the rear line. Couldn’t imagine needing to go forward (for my style), but I also have 200-lbs working for me with this ski. [emoji16]

Seems like you had a pretty typical K108 experience. :) They absolutely rule in the proper environments and you start to see the limitations in tight spaces and deeper snow. I tend to avoid bumps...

+1...and the K108 is narrower with less rocker. I would also add that the K108 does fine in up to about a foot of powder, but it wouldn't be my choice as a powder day ski...more like for the day...

I think you’ll be fine. The 184 is the right size. And if you want to get on the shovels more, do the remount. I’m 5’ 8” and 200-lbs. I have some weight on you, but I’m a 25.5 mounted on the rear...

How big are you and what size are you skiing?

Was going to say, ski them and remount the tow if they feel too long, but you figured it out. They have a pretty decent sweet spot and you know when...

Based on my personal experience on the 184 M102 and K108 both mounted on the line, I assumed that the 191 would ski the same way. To me the 191 K108 skis bigger and feels heavier than the 184 on the...

On the topic of the “pingy”’carbon tips, I only found that to be the case on my 184 M102’s from 2020. I’ve since owned three pairs of K108’s (two 184’s, one 191), two M102’s from 2021 (184 and 191),...

I could see you enjoying a 184 K108 at a place like Mammoth. But I could also see you wishing you got a 184 M102, since it is the more versatile of the two.

I own the 184 in both. Last year when...

When are you getting some 184’s so she can have the 177’s?

Are you asking about an M102 vs K108 comparison? The ski really similarly. The M102 feels a bit more comfortable on firm snow and the K108 a bit more natural in soft snow. The tail on the Katana is a...

I own the 192 Mfree108 and 184 &191 Katana K108. The 184 K108 feels like "more" ski than the 192 Mfree108. I skied them back-to-back last Friday for the first time and was amazed how the shorter...

Let my buddy ski my 184 Katana K108’s today and my 192 Dynastar MFree108’s. He loved both but preferred the limitless stability Katana.

Here’s evidence of the gathering (those are M102’s in the...

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I’m bummed you sold them as I was really interested in hearing your take on them. But I’m also looking forward to your Raven review. [emoji16]

I’m in a Cochise 130, so not much different than your Lange XT130.

I should have said "West Coast" meaning Whistler, Cascades, Sierras where denser snow persists and the K108 excels. A lot of skiers posting their fondness for the K108 seem to come from those...

I appreciate that you love these. You don’t ski out west, you aren’t some big bruiser, and you’re not skiing the biggest TGR-certified length. But you totally dig the skis. Nothing wrong with that....

Yeah, I agree. The 191 K108’s were acquired from bry and now belong to my buddy. Yesterday was his first time out on them and he’s stoked. At Dinner we talked about him adding a 191 M6 to...

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I think the wider tip and smaller radius on the K108 make it easier/"more willing" to start a turn than the M102. I believe that the tail on the K108 is also a tad softer than the M102.

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Isn’t the 177 K108 18-m under foot? The 184 M102 is 20-m underfoot. Also, the delta between the large tip and tail radius and the underfoot radius is more noticeable on the Katana (at least to me)...

So here’s the funny thing between the M102 and K108. For comparable sizes, the underfoot radius on the Katana is tighter/smaller than the Mantra. So even though the Katana is wider, it feels like it...

Looks like good times! Maybe Volkl should add “truck tow skiing” in their marketing copy for their kids skis? [emoji6]

As far as the 191 K108’s are concerned, I love the stability but not the...

So, I spent a few hours on the 191 K108 today. Conditions were cold but carve-able groomers and firm variable off piste with small pockets of leftover powder. I have Warden demos on them which makes...

Yes. It not as stiff of a ski. But I’ve only skied the 184 and they are quite manageable in bumps for how stable they are at speed and in variable stuff. Not sure about the longer 191.

It was so good to get back on these boards today. I forgot how good it was. After this next storm, I’m taking out my 191’s to see how much more stable they are. Why do I even own other skis?
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I’m pretty stoked that your are so pleased with them. I know you wrestled with the decision, so happy to hear you are finding the benefits of the ski the same way I did.

And you are right, for...

So, no buyer’s remorse? [emoji6]

Haha! Bandit Jr had the same two ski quiver back in the day. Same skis with different names. He had a 143/153/163 Shiro Jr (same as Confession Jr) and 138/148 Gotama Jr and 158 Mantra Jr. He loved...

Those murdered out topsheets look so good. A beautiful blank canvas for your clamps to enhance!

Going with STH’s or Pivots?

Here are the 184 K108, 184 V-Werks, and 184 2012 Full Rocker Katana all lined up. The V-Werks and 2012 Katana are nearly identical in terms of mount point.

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Here is a comparison of the 184 K108 and 184 V-Werks Katana lined up on the “recommended” mount point. The V-Werks is about 2-3-cm longer in the shovel.

Mind you, the K108 has a tighter turn...

Remind me, where did you mount the M102?

I could see you going +1 due to your shorter BSL. Trust the design of the ski. The longer shovel is why they truck. The shorter tail keep them loose.

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Glad you are enjoying them so much. As I tried to convey all last season, they are so well mannered and so easy to ski for how stable they are. Definitely my favorite ski from last season. ...

Being someone who likes to pressure the shovel, I have only skied my 184 K108’s on the line. However, I bought some 191’s with demo bindings at the end of the season and am encouraged by the reports...

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