You're talking about the Vario.2 heel, right? The toe piece is shared between the Gara and the Vario.2, just a shim is different.

I don't see the benefit for the weight, height, and features. If...

I skied this quite a bit. It skis very well. I have dropped some sizeable cliffs on it, including some decent pillow lines in BC, and skied quite fast without pre-releasing (toes unlocked). I had one...

This is pretty sweet.

I have Trab toes paired with speed superlight heels on 187 Billy Goat tours (118 mm wide), no issues so far. I've skied pretty hard on them but I haven't taken any falls or...

100% agree!! I'm sure you know this already, but ...

On the first one, it's pretty easy. 31 mm pin height gets you flat without shimming a standard tech toe.

On the second one, the limiting...

If a company could nail these two heels, I think they would be perfect for 99% of people's needs (pair with Trab toe):

Heel 1:
(hybrid of Superlight 1.0 and superlight 2.0):
- direct mount to...

^^ Awesome. I love what we're seeing for sub 200g options.

I would personally choose the Superlight 2.0 heel over the Haute Route heel because it has noticeably better "return to center" force. My...

So I'm the only one in this thread who's actually done/doing this, as far as I know. There are a few reasons:
1. the freeride spacer! sure, I could mess around with the old ATK "universal" freeride...

Thanks much for the response. I will check it out moving forward.

I think with the superlight 2.0 heels, the step in force is so high that it either clears any packed snow or you cannot step in...

Okay, so I just played with mine, and you are correct, though it's not night and day.

That said, I can't see how more elasticity in the toe would cause pre-release. I can see how the lack of...

I really wish the Trab heel came with an optional freeride space and a second flip riser.

To be clear, I have been very happy with the Trab toe and superlight 2.0 heel last season. Skied it a lot unlocked with no pre-release.

I can't tell you why, but it does feel like something else...

Well of course I pre-released right after I posted about how much I like the setup. For reference, I'm 5'11", 170# (trying to get back to 165), with the RV set to 12.

Toes unlocked, 40-45 degree...

Love the name! Imma call it the Traider now too.

I have the stomp pad cover piece to run the Raider heels without brakes. I think I will probably remove the brakes and switch to leashes for steep,...

Yep. Ski great. Best touring setup I've ever skied.

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So I actually was planning to do what kid-kapow suggested earlier: Raider heels and Trab toes.

Does anyone know where to get Trab toes? skimo.co is out and isn't sure when they're getting more. I...

Very helpful, thanks!! I have been curious if the ATK Raider toes are similar to the Ski Trab ones. My knowledge on failures (through skimoco) is clearly a bit stale, and the number of Trab toes in...

Okay, now a question for the you all

I'm so excited to have some touring skis on the way for next season (custom 187 ON3P Woodsman 110 Tour), and I'm trying to decide on a binding.

As alluded...

I am (or used to be) one of those people. I've skied the Steel speed rad toe with various heels -- first the speed turn and later settled on the SSL 2.0 heel on a number of skis.

Like others have...

You also get something that releases laterally at the toe and the heel. IIRC, wildsnow experimented with that a while back and didn't have good results.

I go through skis quicker than boots. But yeah, I'd be concerned if I was buying a new pair of boots that I wasn't positive would work out. Or like mall walker says, remount with an adjustment plate.

Why wouldn't you want to ski YFYD terrain on the HR 2.0 or Crest?

BTW, do you work with/for the US-based Hagan Ski Mountaineering in Breck?

No lose fer sure, but without the bsl adjustment, the HR 2.0 saves you 115g per binding = 0.5 lbs per pair. Not a ton, but certainly not negligible either if you're going light with skis and boots.

So what is the real difference between the two toes? I can tell from the website that the SL Evo WC toe is lighter and more expensive, but not much more than that since the description for both is...

No, I understand that BD just rebranded existing ATK bindings that have already been released. I had forgotten that the Haute Route was the same heel as the RT 2.0. But still, I thought that heel was...

IMHO, u-springs suffer three major problems, though most of them are (at least partially) alleviated in the new class of "speed touring" u-spring bindings:

1. Lack of adjustable release value (RV)...

Awesome. Thanks for the detailed response, Jason. I'd also like to try some of those 200g heels. The BD Helio (rebranded ATK) 200 without the adjustment plate is 165g with adjustable lateral and...

Thanks for chiming in -- your opinion is super valuable. Have you used the speed superlight 2.0 heel? Does play develop in the u-spring? Besides play are there other performance increases in your...

No I haven't. I use SSL 2.0 heels exclusively at the moment. Haven't used the B&D top plate or volcano either, so good to know re screws loosening. And I'd prolly choose the Sally MTN or something...

I like the B&D ones — comfort plates + volcanos. Much easier to rotate. Direct replacement for the silver ones. My wife has them on her skis. Haven’t tried the new black ones, tho.

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For the record: I wasn't trying to fear-monger, and I wasn't saying don't use the SSL 2.0. I was just saying *IF* you are concerned about it, it's easy to purchase SSL 2.0 heels and speed rad toes...

Yeah, that's what I thought. Same as the Trofeo, correct?

Wait, just saw this... I thought the SLR release has 3 riser heights? As per the website:

"The Heel Flap with raiser provides 3 walking modes: FLAT MODE, + 37 mm and + 50 mm."

Do you know...

Yeah, please post up in the SSL 2.0 thread if you really think there's been a revision. I'd love to know personally.

The old skool tech binders have like 15-17 mm heel-toe delta, and most people I...

It's in the SSL 2.0 thread. Dude, you even commented on it.

Ah, you're correct. I guess I just wished it was an SLR release -- lighter and more functional. :)

I would pick Sally MTN or Speed Turn 2.0 (with retrofitted top plate). IME, Speed Turns develop slop around 200+ days. And you have to* shim the toes, which adds weight. But they're a pretty tried...