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    Carbon works well if your basement is carpeted. ...

    Carbon works well if your basement is carpeted. Otherwise (bare concrete), I'd stay away from it.

    ... Thom
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    ^^^ this ^^^ Do folks really think they won't be...

    ^^^ this ^^^ Do folks really think they won't be incentivizing pass purchases through at least November this year, or that life will return to a facsimile of normal before January?

    ... Thom
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    You all realize there's a thread dedicated to the...

    You all realize there's a thread dedicated to the topic, right?

    https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=334452

    ... Thom
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    The 182, MAP / Carbon / Nylon top / flex #4s are...

    The 182, MAP / Carbon / Nylon top / flex #4s are 2020, and the 182, Enduro / Veneer / flex #4s come in at 2040.

    I dream about a UL Veneer pair to replace the nylon top ones (mounted with the Helio...
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    Toe caps - another good point. I always mold...

    Toe caps - another good point. I always mold with double toe caps.

    Don't underestimate the benefits of SHORT toenails.

    12mm shell fit and Bob's your uncle.

    I had my doubts last Spring, coz...
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    Blister has the Evo's at 595...

    Blister has the Evo's at 595 (https://blisterreview.com/gear-reviews/2017-2018-fritschi-vipec-evo).

    I bought some used Steeples, and Evo had the 179s at 1920. Mine weigh 2110. Of course, with...
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    That sounds consistent with my results. I...

    That sounds consistent with my results.

    I might add that for my slightly shorter than 9.5 foot and 25.5 shells, I keep my toenails extremely short - a habit from rock climbing.

    If my foot...
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    Yeah, I doubt anyone would argue that...

    Yeah, I doubt anyone would argue that Vipecs/Tectons aren't smoother than traditional tech bindings.

    I read your "ski better"comments (above) as more about controlling the ski, how you engage...
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    Maybe you guys are responding to stack height...

    Maybe you guys are responding to stack height preferences? ATKs are much closer to the ski (I like that).

    A lot of people like more stack height.

    I don't know if skimo's numbers are correct,...
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    Assuming he knows how to measure, it sounds like...

    Assuming he knows how to measure, it sounds like they're 187s. A 187 should measure in the 185 to 185.5 range (maybe 73" plus a little).

    ... Thom
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    Yeah, odds are you're a 27/27.5 shell. I'm a...

    Yeah, odds are you're a 27/27.5 shell. I'm a tick below 9-1/2 on my big foot and have about 10-12mm space in my 25.5s.

    ... Thom
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    Definitely an "odd" design decision. Thanks for...

    Definitely an "odd" design decision. Thanks for the tip. Punching helped a bit, and since I only ski it inbounds (and occasional side country), I haven't pursued it further.

    Back to our...
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    This might be a data point ... or not ... My...

    This might be a data point ... or not ...

    My 25.5 OG XT 130 Freetours (LV) feel tighter in the toe box than my 25.5 ZGTPs (last year's model - unchanged for this year).

    The shell fit feels...
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    If I didn't already have a MAP / Carbon /#4 /...

    If I didn't already have a MAP / Carbon /#4 / Nylon top GPO in 182 and Enduro / Veneer / #4 (also 182), those Screaming Bears would be a consideration.

    I'm toying with the idea of getting down...
  15. @1000-oaks' original post was a good reminder to...

    @1000-oaks' original post was a good reminder to bump for the season - leaking batteries & all that.

    I should have left the passing comment out - a comment best left for all of the countless...
  16. Never mind ...

    Never mind ...
  17. So, two beacons have been lying on the floor,...

    So, two beacons have been lying on the floor, next to my gloves which have been dry for a couple weeks. Pulling the batteries out so early in the year had so much finality associated with it.

    I...
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    I initially read this as a variant of the old...

    I initially read this as a variant of the old Dynafiddle technique of engaging the heel pins first.

    If I understand you correctly, you mean push the toe lever halfway - treating the toes as if...
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    So I have two new to me pairs of skis I can't get...

    So I have two new to me pairs of skis I can't get out on until after the apocalypse, and I surf over to the Praxis site ... because ... n + 1.

    Thank goodness there's no UL option. I don't want to...
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    Yeah, @grinch tells me you need 5 days on them to...

    Yeah, @grinch tells me you need 5 days on them to figure 'em out. I don't get 5 days a year inbounds for days you "need" ProTests so my patience wore thin after day 2, especially when I knew how...
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    I'm one for three - loving GPOs and grateful...

    I'm one for three - loving GPOs and grateful there was a market to sell the other two.

    ... Thom
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    Thanks. I plugged in their numbers. When I...

    Thanks. I plugged in their numbers.

    When I initially looked at them a few months ago, I didn't trust their results, because their intermediate numbers for the calculation (the raw height of the...
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    Indeed they do (crush it all). I'm always late...

    Indeed they do (crush it all). I'm always late (in the season) in switching away from them.

    Corn season also means slush at some point in the day, and they handle that well too.

    ... Thom
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    I added ramp delta and riser height columns to...

    I added ramp delta and riser height columns to first post. I also added a link to download the spreadsheet (Excel 2013). I also added two comparison rows (Fritschi Vipec Black & Plum Guide) to help...
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    @the_flying_v snoozes and loses ;-)

    @the_flying_v snoozes and loses ;-)
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    I'll add a ramp angle and riser height column to...

    I'll add a ramp angle and riser height column to the spreadsheet on the ATK thread tonight (https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=334162). I'll also add a download link (not just a...
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    If those screaming bears were ULs, I'd be...

    If those screaming bears were ULs, I'd be seriously weakening.

    It's probably just a website glitch, but I don't see a UL option for GPOs at the moment. I can't get a flex 3/UL/Veneer GPO out of...
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    Poll: Thanks. I like the flexibility of a 3mm cord...

    Thanks. I like the flexibility of a 3mm cord girth hitched for modification on the fly. I'm definitely not 100% bought into my attachment method. It could stand some improvement.

    I've also...
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    4-40 and not metric? Interesting. I guess...

    4-40 and not metric? Interesting. I guess that's to screw the volcanoes into the top plate so it's all made here, in the land of freedom units.

    Here's a link for the OP: ...
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    Poll: OK ... I have too much time on my hands at the...

    OK ... I have too much time on my hands at the moment. I got to thinking about some scenarios from last Spring which prompted me to modify my leash strategy - fixing my leash to my boot instead of...
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    The milling on the base of the heels are...

    The milling on the base of the heels are different. It's hard to get the contrast right in these photos, but the Haute Route has four screw holes on its base and the fixation for the RT10 appears to...
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    I'm guessing that by now, you know that Hagan and...

    I'm guessing that by now, you know that Hagan and BD Helio = ATK.

    Whether they benefit from the stomp pads or not is something I can't speak to, but I have trouble believing they're worse than...
  33. Your story brings back nervous memories of me and...

    Your story brings back nervous memories of me and Mrs. Galibier - having moved to San Francisco three days before the 7.1 in 1989.

    I think it was 2 weeks before we stopped sleeping fully dressed,...
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    No issues running my Vipec Blacks inbounds...

    No issues running my Vipec Blacks inbounds either, or taking one of the two pairs mounted with them as a travel ski.

    I keep thinking that I should swap them for Tectons, but other than the...
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    Bump for good maggot. These LD102s have...

    Bump for good maggot.

    These LD102s have someone's name on them.

    I realize we're in strange times, but apart from that, I'm amazed at how few folks have caught on to Downs and the value they...
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    Thanks! I lost track of the 98, but remember a...

    Thanks!
    I lost track of the 98, but remember a conversation about what point a ski is too narrow for RES to be optimum or relevant.

    One day, I'll find out for myself.

    It's strange ... mulling...
  37. Pent up demand? You bet, and they're likely...

    Pent up demand? You bet, and they're likely expecting a return to a semblance of normalcy by Fall, which is wildly optimistic IMHO.

    It will be interesting to see the public's sentiment by (say)...
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    Well shit! I just checked, and since I got my RT...

    Well shit! I just checked, and since I got my RT 10s 4 weeks ago, the Crest is now quite a bit cheaper than the RT10. When I bought my RT10s, the two models differed by about $20.

    The...
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    I thought that in that model year, the 102 was a...

    I thought that in that model year, the 102 was a touring Wren and the 108 was a skinny, touring BG.

    Well, when the apocalypse passes, I'll get to ski my burly 102s.

    ... Thom
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    Of course, who's to say that on the design board,...

    Of course, who's to say that on the design board, they wrestled over the thickness of the boot board, and ultimately shaved it down by the thickness of a Bontex shim ;-)

    On another note, I'm...
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    The bank loan part is real. I went with the less...

    The bank loan part is real. I went with the less expensive RT 10. The skis are mounted, and if/when the apocalypse is over, I'll ski them and have some feedback.

    From my experience with the...
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    The binding (stops/bumpers) seems to throw the...

    The binding (stops/bumpers) seems to throw the boot out of alignment, even when you try to click the boot in on a work bench.

    I doubt master step inserts would change this much, but don't have any...
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    Yup. I know him ;-) People like Fred diminish...

    Yup. I know him ;-)

    People like Fred diminish my faith in the human race.

    ... Thom
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    This was posted in a BC skiing Facebook group...

    This was posted in a BC skiing Facebook group earlier today.

    If my moderately gimpy knee weren't acting up over the past 3 weeks, I'd struggle more with the decision to stay home (I get it). It...
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    Correct.

    Correct.
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    With a gimpy knee I'm shut down at the moment, so...

    With a gimpy knee I'm shut down at the moment, so my freshly mounted RT10s are taunting me.

    For comparison sake, when I pulled my Vipecs (spring loaded) off my GPOs and mounted Helio 200s (no...
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    The morons will spoil it for everyone and worse...

    The morons will spoil it for everyone and worse yet - too soon for natural selection to kick in.
  48. Worse - American Chinese BUFFET food.

    Worse - American Chinese BUFFET food.
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    Agreed about entry. My Vipec Blacks make me look...

    Agreed about entry. My Vipec Blacks make me look like more of a wanker than I actually am.

    I did notice that if I tilt my boot more (raise my heel), I have a slightly higher success rate entering...
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    Those were my thoughts as well. I just scored...

    Those were my thoughts as well. I just scored Steeple 102s (179).

    I mentioned in another thread that I was a bit surprised (but hopeful) when I saw them quoted on an archived page from evo.com...
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